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To: MHGinTN

You’re right. I stand corrected.

I don’t know what to do anymore. Calling my senators, CONgress critters, legislature backbenchers, etc. doesn’t work. Protests don’t work.

It may very well be time for a third party, but that sort of thing takes decades and may doom us to continual progressivik rule.


16 posted on 06/30/2013 9:07:54 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Prepare for the coming collapse. The global oligarchs ALWAYS use the reset button when the global economic conditions reach where they are now. Most of the time they use a large war to do it, while they finance both sides. This time they may have too much ownership in properties at risk in a large war, so look for a regional conflagration, like Syria, Turkey, Israel, Jordan, and Iran. Such a war will collapse the US economy due to our dependency upon Middle Easter oil to keep the trucks and cars running. The collapse will be ‘managed’ but will be very bloody and will eliminate a large number of welfare liabilities in the process of starvation and gang wars and neighborhood devastations in suburbia. The globalists are dead souls. Death and mayhem, disease and pestilence have been their tools for generations. They will use the usual ... and it is coming soon, so use your energies to prepare for the collapse. There is nothing we the people as a ruled gob can do to stop it now.


20 posted on 06/30/2013 9:15:28 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
Protests don’t work.

How do we know that? We haven't staged a real protest yet. Peaceful rallies in the park with speeches, flags, and placards doesn't equal a "protest".

Think Civil Rights era. Vietnam era. Those were protests that led to effective change in Washington and the country.

39 posted on 06/30/2013 12:18:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

“I don’t know what to do anymore.”

Money works in today’s political arena. If you have big money, and give it to the national committee of either party and individual candidates, you have a voice. If you don’t have big money to give, you have no voice.

Liberal activists have done an outstanding job of taking over non-profit organizations (Planned Parenthood, Sierra Club) and turning them into vehicles for securing government money and then return a percentage to the politicians who do their bidding. The millions of dollars kicked back to the politicians gives them a disproportionate voice. Conservatives have either not tried or not been successful with the government grant money laundering operations.

With respect to the Republican Party the big money comes from corporate interests and wealthy individuals. The individual contributing $100 to a candidate is certainly appreciated by the candidate but he/she has zero voice or influence when the candidate must raise millions to get elected. The corporate fat cat who delivers a $2 million bundle has influence. When the GOP Congressman weighs 10,000 emails, phone calls, and letters from constituents whose combined giving is $10,000 versus the fat cat who each election cycle funds 10-20% of his/her campaign, who do you think will get the vote on immigration, spending, or other issues?

Most politicians are pragmatic human beings. They may run for office the first time with passion for a cause but when they get to Washington they quickly learn the game. This is why so many of the 2010 Tea Party elected Republicans became cogs in the wheel of the system so quickly.

The answer for conservatives is clear. Either form a new party that is ideologically to the right, and will attract the majority of its contributions from like minded donors, or find a way to bundle the individual conservative contributions in a way that the donations will be significant enough to influence the behavior of Republican politicians.

The simple fact is the Mitt Romney’s of the world, wealthy moderate businessmen, control the purse strings of the Republican Party. They don’t care about abortion, they are not deeply religious, they want open borders for business reasons, and their Ivy League educations plus the urban social sets in which they travel make them inclined to have a moderate to liberal point of view with respect to social issues.

Ultimately he or she who owns the gold, makes the rules. Today the wealthy country club Republicans provide the bulk of the funding for the candidates so they ultimately set the agenda. When you vote for a Republican because he/she isn’t quite as bad as the other candidate, you are enabling the system and provide no incentive for change.


70 posted on 07/01/2013 4:11:39 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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