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We’re Going Into the Greatest Depression: (shortened)
SHTF Plan ^ | 6/28/13 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 06/28/2013 7:26:10 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: catfish1957
The whole point of owning gold and other precious metals (at least as far as I'm concerned) is not to pad your portfolio now, but to have it when your portfolio is good for nothing other than tinder for a cooking fire. So what if gold was $1600/oz last summer and $1200 this summer? WTSHTF is when you/we will wish we had it.

That said, I'm glad the price has come down...so I can buy more.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

151 posted on 06/29/2013 9:00:47 PM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

You’re right...of course. Too much time without sleep. My apologies here.


152 posted on 06/29/2013 9:25:09 PM PDT by RavenATB
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To: catfish1957
So what am I selling numbnuts?

A fool opens their mouth and removes all doubt.

153 posted on 06/29/2013 9:50:08 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: RavenATB; Shadowstrike; Marcella; catfish1957; Southack; greeneyes; yorkiemom; Old Sarge; blam; ...

OOPs sorry, Didn’t mean to the post to neither of you, just want folks to know what was going on. Seems I’ve been accused of being a metals hawk and making money off my prepping advise. As well as purposely leading FR preppers down the road of ruin to my advantage.

I purposely stay away from two prepping subjects metals and bartering ammo, because both cause hard feelings among preppers.

I also in no way make money either through my recommendation of reading various blogs or through any of my recommendation on equipment, food, gear of any kind. I try to rotate the blogs, but there are only so many that post stuff worth reading.

I was very reluctant to take over the Preppers’ Ping list from ChocChipCookie when I was asked but I did and tried to do the best job I could. It’s been good at times as I told someone the other day that I do it because I think of this passage:

But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes someone’s life, that person’s life will be taken because of their sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for their blood.’Ezekiel 33:6

And though I feel its a duty there have been many times its been a real pain, what with the name calling, bs to a point of having to bring Jim Rob in even to the threats which though many were in anger and bluster more than a couple were serious.

It’s all very disheartening and takes a toll. I will pray on it.

Jane Long and vox_freedom thank you for the defense. To you Marcella the Iron Lady of FR who has always had my back a especially big thank you.


154 posted on 06/29/2013 10:28:49 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Southack

As soon as you mentioned 1970 as if it were somehow relevant, I knew there was no use trying to convince you otherwise. All I can do is wish you all the best in the coming years. I think you are wrong about the country being in a healthy normal recovery. I think there is some real rough waters ahead of us and I am doing my best to be financially prepared and stocked up on important supplies.


155 posted on 06/29/2013 10:37:08 PM PDT by Casie (democrats destroy)
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To: Old Sarge

Her name is Ursula?

I never knew that.


156 posted on 06/29/2013 10:45:30 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Casie

You should be prepared. See *all* of post #24.


157 posted on 06/29/2013 10:45:38 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Kartographer
"It’s all very disheartening and takes a toll."

Chin up, buddy. Don't let them get you down.

You're doing good work...there are some people you just have to ignore.

158 posted on 06/29/2013 10:59:07 PM PDT by blam
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To: laplata

I second that, laplata. The Kartster does an much as any other poster on FR to make the world a better place. Hell, a discussion of prepping has been the best angle to approach people to share genuine conservative common sense. I don’t have to have the same political or theological viewpoint as someone else to have a rational and often mutually enlightening discussion about prepping.


159 posted on 06/29/2013 11:40:05 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: RedStateRocker

Well said, RSR. We should be thankful.


160 posted on 06/29/2013 11:47:29 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Kartographer

Kart, I think we mostly forget when we write on a prepper thread, it’s there for the whole world to read. How many Freeper lurkers are there who have benefitted from your prepper threads? How many around the world have benefitted from your prepper threads? Then, add up the naysayers, the uncouth, the bad language critics, and compare the numbers. The miserable malcontents amount to nothing when compared to those you help. Keep your eye on the goal and not the critics.

When you get verbally attacked, we will be here as soon as we are alerted. Much of the time, I see it when it happens and put on my iron armor really fast and run in. I normally carry my long machete with me that lops off the offending written words thrown at you. If I could be a moderator – ah, but that is just a dream – zot, zot, zot.

Thanks for the new handle of “Iron Lady”. Think I’ll keep it.


161 posted on 06/29/2013 11:56:03 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Kartographer
You can’t get much wronger.

That is bad grammer.

Allow me: "You can’t get over more much maxi-wrongifieristic."

162 posted on 06/30/2013 3:11:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: Kartographer
It’s all very disheartening and takes a toll. I will pray on it.

If you stop doing prepper threads, you condemn me to certain death.

Can you live with MY BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS???!?

163 posted on 06/30/2013 3:12:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: Marcella; Kartographer

164 posted on 06/30/2013 4:38:06 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Kartographer
I'd like to join Commander Riker in applauding your most excellent post:


165 posted on 06/30/2013 4:38:42 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: combat_boots

Well, that’s what I named her.

Ursula the VK has been appearing on Zot Threads for years; just in the last year or so, I’ve expanded her wardrobe and her arsenal.


166 posted on 06/30/2013 4:43:23 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: SkyPilot

“Those who are Christians are now paratroopers behind enemy lines”

Very true


167 posted on 06/30/2013 10:42:48 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle; SkyPilot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rYWMs-1SLc


168 posted on 06/30/2013 1:33:55 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: catfish1957; All

Its really really simple. If you aren’t interested don’t come to these threads.

Fact is this is the first time in recorded history when it wasn’t commonplace for people to store food and other resources against lean times.

All the indications point to problems ahead. The only thing we don’t know is how bad they will be. I pray I’m wrong but am not willing to bet the lives of my children.


169 posted on 06/30/2013 1:35:09 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Lazamataz

You are soooo screwed.


170 posted on 06/30/2013 1:38:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer; F15Eagle

Excellent! Thanks, I needed that!


171 posted on 06/30/2013 1:50:15 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: driftdiver

Exactly.

The real difference between preppers is how long we are prepping for and what we are expecting.

I’m sort of lucky, the odds are overwhelminglyt that I will have to deal with an earthquake and the subsequent societal disruption. There are those who expect society to collapse and intend to play a role in the complete reformation of America after she goes Road Warrior, to me that is beyond point of diminishing returns and not worth it, being ready for no water or power for a few weeks on the other hand is common sense and the question is merely the best and lowest cost way to do it and to convince others to do so.

I mean I *WANT* my lib neighbors, my gay neighbors, my neighbors who had the Obama lawn signs to ALSO prep.

Maybe some don’t feel that way, and would wax tumescent in watching them die of thirst or mob violence whilst saying “I told you so, see you in hell lib”.... not me; if they will have their stash of water, sanitation, food and first aid stuff together, and if they want to come out to the shooting range with me and/or learn how to reload, I’ve done more for presenting what I think of as the reality based viewpoint than getting in their face with condemnation


172 posted on 06/30/2013 4:12:26 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Kartographer
The thing about metals is that when one is in the "thick of things" they won't do you much good. But, during the "painful recovery period" after stored food provisions have run out they may be very helpful.

Acquiring metals is certainly not the *first* thing to do in preparedness, but they make sense as one of the subsequent steps.

One thing I've started doing lately is sending silver rounds to my son who is living on the other side of the country. I know he doesn't have room to store a lot of food, but he can store some rounds. I look at it as being "better than nothing".

Besides ... they're practically giving silver away these days!

173 posted on 06/30/2013 4:49:13 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Lazamataz

Yes.
Wait ...


174 posted on 06/30/2013 4:59:22 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: RedStateRocker

LOL, you most certainly have a way with words!

And you are correct, of course.

I’m none too keen on the notion of arming my jailbird neighbor, should it come to that. He shoulda prepped by not being a three-time (caught) idiot, IMHO. But I’d fend off home invaders from there just ‘cause we don’t need that kinda crap in the neighborhood.


175 posted on 07/01/2013 2:35:33 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Titan Magroyne

Thanks, my thinking is that if the jailbird neighbor has a few days worth of water and food, and even maybe some first aid stuff and knowledge of how to use it, a potential threat becomes a potential resource. And they just might start to buy into a bit more of a sense of community; let’s face it, prepping makes one feel a lot smarter and more responsible and empowered. :-)


176 posted on 07/01/2013 6:28:54 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: tbw2

Probably based on the idea that Obama wants to continue as President for life,and intends to manufacture a crisis to suspend elections.


177 posted on 07/01/2013 5:10:35 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: doc1019

By “G_d” do you mean Yehova, or some other ‘god?’


178 posted on 07/01/2013 5:38:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: laplata

There is way too much that has to happen, even for the trib to begin before another 10 years or more.

And remember, Daniel’s 70th week has to begin on a sabbath year.


179 posted on 07/01/2013 5:47:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

If you are referring to my post #4, I am referring to G_d the father, the first part of the Christian trinity , you know ... as in Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I use the expression G_d as I am of Jewish decent (second generation Christian) and wish not to offend our Jewish readers ... respect only.

Hope this answers your question.


180 posted on 07/01/2013 5:49:59 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: catfish1957; Kartographer

You’re full of what catfish are usually full of pal!

Karto works hard for others’ benefit, and doesn’t hawk anything here.


181 posted on 07/01/2013 5:54:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

There is way too much that has to happen, even for the trib to begin before another 10 years or more.


Are you sure? Things can happen very quickly.


182 posted on 07/01/2013 5:55:10 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: RavenATB

Chill!

No accusation was made, read the “to” comment and you will understand.


183 posted on 07/01/2013 5:56:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Marcella

Marcella Thatcher? :o)


184 posted on 07/01/2013 5:58:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: laplata

There are several wars yet to come, one of which will be nuclear. Antichrist cannot appear before them because they are what weakens the global structure to allow him to come to power. The ‘abomination’ has to be in the middle of a sabbath of years.


185 posted on 07/01/2013 6:06:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Do you agree that before the Antichrist can come, the United States will be reduced in power and will no longer be a viable nation?

I definitely believe there will be nuclear war.


186 posted on 07/01/2013 6:10:01 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: doc1019

Respect needs to be reserved for Yehova, who has commanded that his name be proclaimed. Respecting those that reject his commandments does them no favor, they need his name more than any do.


187 posted on 07/01/2013 6:10:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: laplata

All nations will be reduced to fecklessness; that is how he rises.

The SCOTUS decisions will do their part to weaken us!

Keep his commandments, spread his word, and watch, that is all we can do.

Study his Fall Feasts, they predict the times for which you are concerned.

http://store.aroodawakening.tv/teachings-2/video/prophecies-in-the-fall-feasts-of-the-lord.html


188 posted on 07/01/2013 6:20:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

To each his own. If, for some reason, you are trying to pick a fight ... that is your cause, not mine. I use the expression “G_d” only to respect my FR Jewish friends, if you find a problem with that, it is your burden.

Although I am a Christian, I still respect the sensitivities of my Jewish friends and my Jewish heritage. And, by the grace of G_d will continue to do so.


189 posted on 07/01/2013 6:21:07 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: doc1019

Not trying to fight!

If you love your friends, your duty is to lead them to knowledge, not to extend their darkness.

Would you want to hear them ask “Why didn’t you tell me?”


190 posted on 07/01/2013 6:25:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

The world is in such a mess that only God can fix it.

Things are set in motion and all this political stuff no longer matters.

Obama is an enabler of evil and in turn, the Antichrist.

It is written.

Thank you.


191 posted on 07/01/2013 6:27:06 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: editor-surveyor
“Marcella Thatcher? :o)”

That's a good fit. I have a picture of both of us, Margaret Thatcher and me, standing side by side. We are about the same height and our skin color is the same. I am of English decent on both sides, so she and I could be sisters.

The picture was made in Madame Tussauds wax museum in London. I didn't care about the various kings and queens, etc., but I did want a picture of Thatcher and me.

So, yes, just all me Iron Lady Marcella Thatcher. I think she would be pleased.

192 posted on 07/01/2013 6:27:37 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: laplata

>> “Things are set in motion and all this political stuff no longer matters.” <<

.
Very true, and probably politics as such never did matter; he has a plan, and it is precise. Souls matter.


193 posted on 07/01/2013 6:31:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Marcella

>> “ I think she would be pleased.” <<

.
From what I know of you here, I think so too.


194 posted on 07/01/2013 6:33:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Exactly.


195 posted on 07/01/2013 6:38:10 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Marcella; catfish1957; Southack; greeneyes; yorkiemom; Old Sarge; blam; metmom; ChocChipCookie; ...
I got my answer First song Sunday's services.

"The Lord is my light and my salvation why should I be afraid "

Lazamataz you are safe!
196 posted on 07/02/2013 4:20:16 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thanks again for all your good work and a good heart, Kartographer.


197 posted on 07/02/2013 4:23:27 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Kartographer

“I got my answer First song Sunday’s services.
“The Lord is my light and my salvation why should I be afraid “”

Count on God/Jesus/Holy Spirit every time when you are distressed. I think the Trinity is our only hope. You are needed here. You have an earthly job to provide what you need, but I think your job on FR is more than earthly and I mean that.


198 posted on 07/02/2013 6:09:01 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: The Duke
"Besides ... they're practically giving silver away these days! "

Aye.

199 posted on 07/02/2013 7:32:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: Southack
...the economy does not depend upon slackers.

No, but the slackers depend on the economy.

From Kipling, a year after the end of The Great War:

In the Carboniferous Epoch, we were promised abundance for all
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul
But though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said If you don't work, you die.

200 posted on 07/04/2013 12:47:03 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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