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"The Slavs were not born to rule but to serve. This they must be taught."
www.heroesofserbia.com ^ | May 10, 2013 | E. C. Helmreich / Aleksandra Rebic

Posted on 05/10/2013 3:35:44 PM PDT by Ravnagora

Painting of Kaiser Wilhelm II by Max Koner 1890

Aleksandra's Note: It never ceases to amaze me how decades, and in this case an entire century, of cataclysmic change can run its course through the world and the history of its nations and peoples, but some things truly don't change. For the Serbs, "Deja Vu" has become a constant common denominator in the course of their history.

This important bit of history from a 100 years ago should serve as a reminder to the Serbs that the passage of time, even a full century of time, really means nothing when it comes to the political realities they face today in 2013.

However, as is the case with taking anything for granted, especially the Serbs, the great and powerful Emperor of Germany was in for a rude awakening...

Sincerely,

Aleksandra Rebic

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“When His Majesty Emperor Francis Joseph demands something, the Serbian government must give way, and if it does not then Belgrade will be bombarded and occupied until the will of His Majesty is fulfilled. And of this you can be certain, that I stand behind you and am ready to draw the saber whenever your action makes it necessary.”

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TOPICS: History; Politics
KEYWORDS: balkans; germany; history; serbs
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1 posted on 05/10/2013 3:35:44 PM PDT by Ravnagora
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

2 posted on 05/10/2013 3:39:28 PM PDT by Ravnagora
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To: Ravnagora

I have noticed the Slavs (and the Ukrainians) seem to produce a lot of really pretty girls.


3 posted on 05/10/2013 3:39:57 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: Ravnagora

In all fairness, these attitudes prevailed over much of Europe. To paraphrase an expression of the times, “The only way to deal with a Russian is with your boot on his back; and the only way to deal with a German is for your bayonet to be at his throat.”


4 posted on 05/10/2013 3:44:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yarddog

There was this thing about the Vikings in the Medieval period and they did get around ~ of course they were trading baubles for things of value ~ .....


5 posted on 05/10/2013 3:53:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ravnagora

Exactly what Dems think of blacks and “hispanics”.


6 posted on 05/10/2013 3:57:33 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The Republican Party is dead. Let's not pretend otherwise.)
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To: Ravnagora
Interestingly, most of the major victories over the Muslim horde have been led by Eastern European nationalist leaders, as opposed to Western European efforts (Spain did OK).

Civilization may yet depend on the Slavic Orthodox peoples.

7 posted on 05/10/2013 3:58:30 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: yarddog

specially femens types wink wink


8 posted on 05/10/2013 3:58:32 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Ravnagora

Some things never change. Battle of Grunwald, 1410

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grunwald


9 posted on 05/10/2013 4:03:34 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: DariusBane

Actually, some things do change:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tannenberg

(by the way, the Lithuanians, and Lipka Tatars, neither of which were Slavs, had a lot to do with the Polish victory over the Teutonic Knights in 1410)


10 posted on 05/10/2013 4:23:39 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: yarddog
I have noticed the Slavs (and the Ukrainians) ...

The Ukrainians are also Slavs.

11 posted on 05/10/2013 4:48:40 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Ravnagora

This attitude goes back to 1331 when Wladyslaw the Dwarf was defeated by the Teutonic Knights.


12 posted on 05/10/2013 4:49:22 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: muawiyah

I guess seeing so many hot female tennis players whose names end in “kova” or something similar may have influenced me.


13 posted on 05/10/2013 4:49:31 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: Ravnagora

Well this Polish Slav will tell the Kaiser to kindly “Kiss My Dupa”.


14 posted on 05/10/2013 4:54:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Navy Patriot
Actually, Spain didn't do OK. Foreign knights from Brittany and Cornwall made all the difference. It was a business for many centuries for noble families in both countries to finance a knight, with horses and armor and send him to Spain to join a noble lord to fight in the Reconquista. If he did well he'd get land and his pick of women. If he did badly, he'd be dead and the families would simply send more knights.

For the most part most of the nobles in Spain today have Breton sentences for surnames!

For a variety of reasons most historians give the credit to '"French knights" ~ which simply wasn't the case.

Note, for a very long time the various kingdoms and principalities fronting the Bay of Biscay were what amounted to a regional super power. The differences from their life and that of the people further inland were stark. The modern nation states we know so well were for the most part pastoral or agricultural, peopled mostly by slaves or near slaves ruled over by a dissolute gang of drunken, brawling nobles of unsavory sexual hygiene and behavior.

15 posted on 05/10/2013 5:38:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeeSharp

The Ukrainians have several major ethnic backgrounds but they speak a slavic language and eat kielbasa. That’s all it takes.


16 posted on 05/10/2013 5:39:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
> Actually, Spain didn't do OK. Foreign knights from Brittany and Cornwall made all the difference.
> For a variety of reasons most historians give the credit to '"French knights" ~ which simply wasn't the case.

Both of those views are news to me. I've always had the impression that the Reconquest was an off-and-on series of battles, fought over centuries, mostly by Spaniards. I see no evidence to the contrary in the Wikipedia account. Do you recall the names of historians who claim that the Spaniards were not responsible?

17 posted on 05/10/2013 6:16:01 PM PDT by GJones2 (Spaniards not responsible for the Reconquest?)
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To: GJones2
Bieber ~ a common enough name in Belgium ~ were you aware of that?

Ever wonder where it came from?

Here's all you need to look for ~ a noble name with the words for a military assignment in the middle, beginning or end ~ in BRETON.

For instance, a name with SA, meaning flag in Breton, might be linked to LINAS, a word meaning LINE ~ a SALINAS was the knight who held the flag on the left or right of the advancing formation of mounted knights.

Even looks Spanish doesn't it?

Look for almost any name that begins CA, CAR, KA, KER ~ all of them are Breton ~ that 'ker' has to do with a common affectation among Bretons for centuries to refer to 'house of' ~ and then whatever else their name was ~ in Celtic!

Some of the nobles adopted French surnames of course ~ as names of war, the French in those days having a reputation for brutality in combat.

All you have to do is remember that the Google.com Welsh translator does a fair job translating Breton as well ~ which will help you dig your way through Breton and French histories.

Brittany and Cornwall both got out of the country business in the 12th to 14th centuries ~ one of the reasons the English and French hog the credit.

Now, who was a Spaniard? Was it the Moslem noble whose family had lived there 500 years or the farm boy with the big horse and heavy sword from Brittany?

With Christian Spain rolled up to the North Coast (The Dead Coast) by the Moslems (7th/8th century AD), they were sitting ducks for fillubsterers from the rest of Europe ~ who arrived and set up Carvajal, Leone and Castile ~ those were the three kingdoms San Cho Noe I is credited with authorizing as he began his invasion from Cornwall ~ hey, he has a Breton name too!!! WOW! He wasn't a Spaniard 'til he got there.

The common denominator was simple ~ on one side the warriors were Christian, and other side they were Moslem. The war lasted from the 7th century to the 15th century ~ a very long war even by Irish standards, but not by Japanese standards (if you need a comparison).

Sometimes the war went one way and sometimes another. At least once other Moslem invaders came in to make a maor push-back against the Christians because the local Moslems proved too week, or too closely affiliated with the Christians to stick to the islamic rules. During other times both the area we call Morocco and Spain were part of a common culture ~ even today they have a special relationship.

(NOTE: Bieber ~ as in Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar ~ AKA El Cid!)

18 posted on 05/10/2013 6:37:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: vladimir998

I was just commenting on the German desire for hegemony over the Slavs. Fritz just needs to calm down. Delusions of grandeur and all that.


19 posted on 05/10/2013 6:58:42 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: muawiyah; GJones2

GJones2,

When dealing with muawiyah it is always best to be somewhat skeptical. I can’t say there were no Breton fighting in Spain, but I really doubt there were many if any at all. Just an example of what I am talking about: muawiyah says there this:

“(NOTE: Bieber ~ as in Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar ~ AKA El Cid!)”

The problem is that Vivar probably has nothing to do with the Breton. If it is Celtic, it probably has everything to do with Spain’s own ancient Celtic population which pre-dated any Breton on the continent by centuries:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iberia_300BC.svg

The Celtic Vaccaei were living in the Vivar region many centuries before El Cid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccaei


20 posted on 05/10/2013 7:22:02 PM PDT by vladimir998
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