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Benghazi - Will The Truth Finally Be Told?
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| LD Jackson
Posted on 05/05/2013 4:55:41 AM PDT by LD Jackson
Benghazi This is just one of the important questions that we need the answers to. Will the truth finally be told about what happened in Benghazi on September 11, 2012? Heretofore, we have been lied to, deliberately misled about the events surrounding the deaths of four Americans who were serving their country. Chis Stevens, Glen Doherty, Sean Smith, and Tyrone Woods all died in Benghazi. While the deaths were tragic, in and of themselves, it gets worse. There appears to be clear evidence that the deaths could have possibly been avoided, but the truth has been hidden, covered up at every turn by the Obama administration.
For months, we have heard about the survivors of the Benghazi attack. At first, they were muzzled and the press had absolutely no access to them. Investigators were not allowed to talk to them and their stories were suppressed. At long last, some of them will finally be able to tell us what really happened that night in Benghazi. They will testify before a Congressional committee on Wednesday.
Fox News - Their identities have been a well-guarded secret, known only to their high-powered lawyers and a handful of House lawmakers and staff. But now Fox News has learned the names of the self-described Benghazi whistleblowers who are set to testify before a widely anticipated congressional hearing on Wednesday. If you care about what is happening in our country and around the world, you should care about the outcome of this hearing. We all should care about the information that will be revealed, if these three men are allowed to tell their stories with no limitations. Until now, the Obama administration has scrambled to hide the mistakes, and what appears to be a clear dereliction of duty, before, during, and after the debacle in Benghazi. I am hopeful that the truth will finally be told and justice will be served for the four men who died on that night.
Appearing before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee will be three career State Department officials: Gregory N. Hicks, the deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Libya at the time of the Benghazi terrorist attacks; Mark I. Thompson, a former Marine and now the deputy coordinator for Operations in the agencys Counterterrorism Bureau; and Eric Nordstrom, a diplomatic security officer who was the regional security officer in Libya, the top security officer in the country in the months leading up to the attacks.
There is one thing of importance to note, especially for any liberals who may read this post and want to accuse me of just piling on President Obama and trying to damage him in his second term. Nothing could be further from the truth. What I am interested in is the truth. From the small amount of evidence we have access to, it is clear that something went horribly wrong that night.
Even though I believe the Obama administration is culpable in what happened, and in the coverup that has followed, this is not about President Obama.
Even though the truth should have been revealed before last year's election, this is not about President Obama or how he managed to keep the truth under wraps until after he defeated Mitt Romney in November.
Even though it should bring down his administration because of their misdeeds, this is not about President Obama.
Hear me clearly. This is about the truth of what happened in Benghazi and how four of our citizens, who were serving their country, were allowed to die, even though we had ways to respond to the threat on their lives. I say again, we want the truth about what happened in Benghazi. Nothing more and nothing less.
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To: LD Jackson
These people have to be completely up front with every last detail during the questioning. No more protecting anyone in this administration with mish-mash of “it was tragic and we were caught in an unfortunate circumstance.” He’ll no.. there’s been a major coverup and it needs to be exposed.
It’s high time for the bright light of the unvarnished truth to shine.
posted on 05/05/2013 5:01:14 AM PDT
( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
To: LD Jackson
Maybe, if the witnesses live long enough to testify.
Military Scramble Order Overseas, How They Work
First, I've got over 26 years working in military control towers, most of them as the watch supervisor/crew chief on duty.
Scrambling aircraft to respond to urgent situations normally starts at the North American Aerospace Defense Command
The scramble order comes down through a secured phone call on a direct line.
In the attack on the U.S. embassy on Benghazi, the drone control would have been from MacDill AFB, FL
, by U.S. Central Command
, and would have been in direct contact, or maybe even remote control to the situation room in the White House.
Watch this 4 minute 48 second video Inside the Situation Room
The pResident SHOULD HAVE issued to order to scramble fighters to Benghazi, to get there in minimum time.
Then he SHOULD HAVE issued a second order scrambling AC-130 gunships to respond to Benghazi, and have them stand by for more orders.
This should have been controlled by the pResident, who should have monitored and responded with guidance from his Situation Room
staffed by men and women from the Department of Homeland Security, the intelligence community, and the military,
all of whom are committed to ensuring that the President of the United States is provided all the information and intelligence he needs to do his job.
Here's one more piece of information.
WHO GAVE THE STAND DOWN ORDER?
That is THE QUESTION,
and if you know anything about government security and government intelligence,
you know that the ONLY person that has that authority is OBAMA! Hillary is there to divert attention FROM THAT QUESTION.
Like Rush said
" I'll tell you what happened today was, what I call, what others call, the ruling class, the political elite SAW a vulnerability.
Any time a ranking member of the government who is already in the protected class, which is the Democrat Party, is in the cross-hairs,
they're gonna circle the wagons and protect that person because they're protecting themselves.
And they're protecting the institution of the government, in this case the State Department.
They are not gonna permit a black eye.
The purpose of this, not only to cleanse Hillary and her record and setting up her future,
but this was about cleansing the oversight people and cleansing everybody in Congress,
from the Senate or whatever that was supposed to make sure this kind of stuff didn't happen and held people accountable,that didn't happen.
This was circle the wagons time and put on a dog and pony show
to MAKE THE PEOPLE THINK it's been dealt with. "
Now we know that Obama was in the room watching Benghazi attack live
I know from experience in the government (over 30 years) that the communication system allows for IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION to the SITUATION ROOM,
as well as other agencies, of notification of a critical situation such as this.
I'm sure technology has changed and only gotten better since I retired, but read this
with focus onFLASH OVERRIDE
The U.S. military also used the letters, relabeled, in their now defunct Autovon phone system. Here they were used before dialing the phone in order to give some calls priority, cutting in over existing calls if need be. The idea was to allow important traffic to get through every time. The levels of priority available were Flash Override (A), Flash (B), Immediate (C), and Priority (D), with Flash Override being the highest priority. Pressing one of these keys gave your call priority, overriding other conversations on the network. Pressing C, Immediate, before dialing would make the switch first look for any free lines, and if all lines were in use, it would disconnect any non-priority calls, and then any priority calls. Flash Override will kick every other call off the trunks between the origin and destination. Consequently, it was limited to the White House Communications Agency.
Precedence dialing is still done on the military phone networks, but using number combinations (Example: Entering 93 before a number is a priority call) rather than the separate tones and the Government Emergency Telecommunications Service has superseded Autovon for any civilian priority telco access.
Present-day uses of the A, B, C and D keys on telephone networks are few, and exclusive to network control. For example, the A key is used on some networks to cycle through different carriers at will (thereby listening in on calls). Their use is probably prohibited by most carriers. The A, B, C and D tones are used in radio phone patch and repeater operations to allow, among other uses, control of the repeater while connected to an active phone line.
The *, #, A, B, C and D keys are still widely used worldwide by Amateur radio operators for repeater control, remote-base operations and VOIP-based communications systems.
DTMF tones are also used by some cable television networks and radio networks to signal the local cable company/network station to insert a local advertisement or station identification. These tones were often heard during a station ID preceding a local ad insert. Previously, terrestrial television stations also used DTMF tones to shut off and turn on remote transmitters.
DTMF signaling tones can also be heard at the start or end of some VHS (Video Home System) cassette tapes. Information on the master version of the video tape is encoded in the DTMF tone. The encoded tone provides information to automatic duplication machines, such as format, duration and volume levels, in order to replicate the original video as closely as possible.
DTMF tones are sometimes used in caller ID systems to transfer the caller ID information, however in the USA only Bell 202 modulated FSK signaling is used to transfer the data.
There is more you need to read.
Read post #48 of ""Under God" Removed By Obama During Inaguration Pledge"
and know that we were warned of this
has been planned for a VERY LONG TIME
. Obama is solely responsible for this
Hillary claimed No Knowledge of gun running
and told Rand Paul he needed to ask the CIA.
Let's look at some of the facts.
Obama Arranged Benghazi Trip That Resulted In Murder Of US AMB Chris Stevens
Arms Flow to Syria May Be Behind Benghazi Cover-Up states:
" During the 2011 Libyan revolt against Muammar Qaddafi, reckless U.S. policy flung American forces and money into the conflict on the side of the rebels, who were known at the time to include Al Qaeda elements. Previously the number two official at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, Christopher Stevens was named as the official U.S. liaison to the Libyan opposition in March, 2011.
Stevens was tasked with helping to coordinate U.S. assistance to the rebels, whose top military commander, Abdelhakim Belhadj, was the leader of the Al Qaeda affiliate, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). That means that Stevens was authorized by the U.S. Department of State and the Obama administration to aid and abet individuals and groups that were, at a minimum, allied ideologically with Al Qaeda, the jihadist terrorist organization that attacked the homeland on the first 9/11, the one thats not supposed to exist anymore after the killing of its leader, Osama bin Laden, on May 2, 2011. "
Obama the arms broker to al-Qaeda states [this article is also well worth your time] :
" Now we learn that Ambassador Chris Stevens’s mission in Benghazi on that fatal day was to organize the shipment of arms to the rebel militias in Syria.
And that means: the shipment of arms, by order of the President of the United States, to al-Qaeda,
the terrorist organization which the President himself constantly declares to be the enemy of his country.
No wonder President Obama, Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the rest of the stoats and weasels have been lying their heads off and trying to put the blame for the whole hideous and tragic episode – for what amounts to an act of war – on somebody’s little video. Scraping the bottom of the excuses-barrel. SOURCES: SLAIN U.S. AMBASSADOR RECRUITED JIHADISTS
The evidence suggests that the Obama administration has not simply been engaging, legitimating, enriching and emboldening Islamists who have now taken over or are ascendant in much of the Middle East.
Starting in March 2011, when American diplomat Christopher Stevens was designated the liaison to the “opposition” in Libya, the Obama administration has been arming them, including jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj, the leader of the al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group. "
Egyptian officials say Stevens worked with Saudis against Assad
Was Syrian weapons shipment factor in ambassadors Benghazi visit? states:
" Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar, which means "The Victory," was received in the Turkish port of Iskenderun -- 35 miles from the Syrian border -- on Sept. 6, just five days before Ambassador Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed
On the night of Sept. 11, in what would become his last known public meeting, Stevens met with the Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin, and escorted him out of the consulate front gate one hour before the assault began at approximately 9:35 p.m. local time.
the timing and the meeting between the Turkish diplomat and Stevens was "unusual."
According to an initial Sept. 14 report by the Times of London, Al Entisar was carrying 400 tons of cargo.
The cargo reportedly included surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles, RPG's and Russian-designed shoulder-launched missiles known as MANPADS.
It was reported there was a fight about the weapons and who got what "between the free Syrian Army and the Muslim Brotherhood."
' The point is that both of these weapons systems are extremely accurate and very simple to use,' Fox News military analyst Col. David Hunt explained. He said the passage of weapons from Libya to Syria would escalate the conflict. ' With a short amount of instruction, you've got somebody capable of taking down any, any aircraft. Anywhere in the world. '
Rebel Arms Flow Is Said to Benefit Jihadists in Syria by New York Times
Why Libya Cover-Up: Obama Was Arming Al Qaeda & Islamists
Libya's missing weapons being smuggled into Gaza
Israeli intelligence is increasingly concerned about the quantity of Libyan arms flowing into Gaza.
Clinton asked for more security in Benghazi, Obama said no
How U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked to Jihadist Rebels in Syria (And It Involves Weapons) [Article has many links.]
Ed Klein: Bill Clinton encouraged Hillary to resign in the wake of the Benghazi scandal
Explain this: Ambassador Chris Stevens killed due to lack of security Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett gets Secret Service
Libyan Officials Claim US Was Warned 3 DAYS BEFORE Deadly Benghazi Consulate Attack
More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments from CNN states:
" Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.
Jamal Mabrouk, a member of the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he and a battalion commander had a meeting about the economy and security.
He said they told the diplomats that the security situation wasn't good for international business.
'The situation is frightening, it scares us,' Mabrouk said they told the U.S. officials. He did not say how they responded.
Mabrouk said it was not the first time he has warned foreigners about the worsening security situation in the face of the growing presence of armed jihadist groups in the Benghazi area. "
Guard at consulate in Libya says attack was coordinated
Egypt intelligence warns of attacks on Israel, US embassies
Blame Obama for Chris Stevens' murder
Backed by Barack Hussein Obama, Muslim Brotherhood gets ready to overthrow U.S.-ally King of Jordan
Obama Bypasses Congress, Gives $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood
ALDRICH: Hillary Clintons abominable national security record
History of incompetence and dangerous decisions
Obama not subject to charges of treason?
Benghazi: Symbol of Obama's Leadership
Obama Admits He Is A Muslim
So, let us remember.
Muslims are well know for lying about their faith.
MUSLIMS are allowed to LIE and deceive NON MUSLIMS, if it benefits or protects ISLAM.
Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."
Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"
Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"
Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
For a better understanding of the issue, read HISTORY of Mohammed ( spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc. )
. then watch William Federer explain it, from Jan. 25, 2012 at CC Chino Hills, CA. It's a MUST WATCH for everyone,Christians, Athiests and even Muslims!
As retired military myself, I've seen the damage of "keeping secrets" about bad leaders.
Obama is EVIL, pure and simple.
Please watch Glenn Beck with Trevor Loudon & his book "Barack Obama and the Enemies Within"
Then watch the 29 minute 13 seconds video Trevor Loudon- An Urgent (and chilling) Message for America
Obama may be feigning
"incompetence," thinking he's too sly, being a "wolf in sheep's clothing
" since his mentoring was from Fabian Fascism
Remember:" The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked : who can know it? "
The "Establishment Republicans"
will probably NOT want to IMPEACH the TREASONIST Barack Hussein Obama II.
But it's better for the country that Obama suffer the penalty, the strongest penalty for his actions, and his inactions.
Let's look at the Presidential Oaths of Office
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States,
and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Now who among us really believes Obama did any of that ?
To Obama, that was "Just words. Just speeches! "Damn him ! Damn him to hell !
I'll finish this with asking you to read
Watch the 18 minute 56 second documentary video "Absolutely Uncertain"
or on YouTube.com
, narrated by Irina, the 23-year-old Jewish New Yorker and a former Obama supporter .
One other suggestion, read DID OBAMA WANT STEVENS DEAD?
The language is a little abrasive, but spot on. Also read:
How U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked to Jihadist Rebels in Syria
(And It Involves Weapons)October 19, 2012
WASHINGTON, DC – SEPTEMBER 14: Intern Chris Jobson (R) and press assistant Isaiah Calvin (L) of Senate Democratic Media Center sign condolence book for Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens at the U.S. Capitol September 14, 2012 in Washington, DC.
This article by Michael Kelley originally appeared on Business Insider.
posted on 05/05/2013 5:02:47 AM PDT
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: LD Jackson
Will the truth be told? I doubt it. These GOP Congresscritters have a history of overpromising.
posted on 05/05/2013 5:06:36 AM PDT
(America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: LD Jackson
I will be curious to see how the MSM covers this on Wednesday.
To: LD Jackson
The more relevant question is”will it be reported?” If MSM doesn’t report it it will become known but it will be treated the same as a conspiracy theory, something buzzed about on the net. It will get no traction at all, except the part about those mean Republicans harassing the president who is just trying to do his job.
posted on 05/05/2013 5:26:00 AM PDT
(Read Hazlitt's EconomTheiics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
To: LD Jackson
I am confused. The past few days, these articles mention the ‘survivors’ of Benghazi, then speak of the ‘whistleblowers’, as if they are one in the same.
Were any of these three whistleblowers at the so called ‘safehouse’ ?
posted on 05/05/2013 5:28:24 AM PDT
(The monsters are due on Maple Street)
To: LD Jackson
I certainly hope the truth comes out, but I bekieve a great deal of us already know what it is.
1. Obama had to go to Vegas to campaign.
2. al Qaeda was supposed to be on the run and ordering extra security would have put paid to that lie.
3. Obama needed to be re-elected and be free to campaign some more.
Look for another major manufactured crisis to come up to deflect our attention from Benghazi. Will it be another terrorist attack, bird flu, riots, another blood clot. I have no idea but it’s going to be a good one.
posted on 05/05/2013 5:32:49 AM PDT
(IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
I go back to the notion that nothing happens in a vacuum, especially in DC.
We watched as Romney went after Obama on this issue in debate #1. We also watched as he suddenly went into defensive mode when Obama voiced his false indignation of the charges leveled by Romney. Then in debates #’s 2&3 Romney never brought it up again.
Seeing that Romney was not his own man through the campaign, it bring me back to my opening statement above. What happened behind the Mordor Curtain between 1 and 2? Something came to light I believe and couple that with how horribly the state of the union has been slipping.
So, if Romney were to win, the media would have pounced on him from day one and never let go. They would have turned the narrative that all the problems were now his fault, yadda, yadda, yadda. Benghazi would never have been brought up again because a Romney administration would not want that distraction and we know how the GOPe is deathly afraid of rocking the boat.
Maybe someone in the GOPe ivory tower figured out just how bad it was about to get no matter who was at 1600 and decided it would be better for the Democrats to be at the helm when the Crapola hit the fan. That way, the Democrat Party and Progressives in general would bear the brunt of a far worse coverup than some janitor happening to find a piece of tape on a door jamb.
posted on 05/05/2013 5:34:08 AM PDT
To: LD Jackson
Coverup....No matter..Not impeachable...because he’s clean and articulate
That way, the Democrat Party and Progressives in general would bear the brunt of a far worse coverup than some janitor happening to find a piece of tape on a door jamb.
The rats will just blame Bush and the Republicans, and the low information voters, formerly known as idiots and chumps, will believe everything they say.
posted on 05/05/2013 5:49:35 AM PDT
(My body is in California, but my heart is in the Philippines)
just watching Chris Wallace this morning the Democrat running dog lackey cut loose with the Democrat's only defense ~ that earlier the Republicans voted for a budget cut in a critical area ~ and that eliminated any ability to come to the aid of the folks in Libya.
This is the substitute lie they've trotted out to replace the now totally discredited OFFENSIVE VIDEO!
it would have been enough to convince Romney that the issues are too complex to be explained during a campaign ~ which, in fact, was true ~ but campaigns aren't for the purpose of arguing out the details of events where none of the participants are involved. They are, instead, for the purpose of rallying one's own troops and discrediting the other side's legitimacy.
Romney didn't need to argue a single detail ~ just accuse the Obamistas of betraying our troops in the field and killing an ambassador!
It's always been up to the Democrats to prove Obama and his crowd made the correct decisions ~ and they still can't do it.
BTW, the fact the Democrats so easily and effortlessly disarmed Romney is pretty much a sign that he had no more business as President than did Obama ~ both losers ~ both stupid.
posted on 05/05/2013 6:33:18 AM PDT
To: LD Jackson
The Benghazi affair is like the eligibility issue — they cannot divulge the truth because of the resulting domino effect among politicians.
posted on 05/05/2013 7:01:04 AM PDT
( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
It will be reported in a dismissive tone. Nothing here America, just Republicans playing politics against our beloved President.
Pray for America to Wake Up
posted on 05/05/2013 7:05:29 AM PDT
(Surviving to spite Obama)
Were any of these three whistleblowers at the so called safehouse ?
No, which is why I want to hear from the people actually inside the house. These whistleblowers can say what happened through their communications but they weren't on the ground.
posted on 05/05/2013 7:07:20 AM PDT
(The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
What happened between 1 and 2 is that Romney believed he was so far ahead in the polls that he didn’t need to go hard on the attack.
In hindsight, Romney’s internal polls and some formerly reliable national polls were way off the mark.
Romney went into election day believing he had it in the bag. He was blindsided.
posted on 05/05/2013 7:17:49 AM PDT
To: LD Jackson
I want to know two things:
1. Who concocted the lame youtube video story and instructed Rice, Carney, Clinton, et al to spread the lie? Even though it was known immediately that it was al Queda sponsored.
2. Who ordered and carried out the extensive redacting of the intelligence report?
These are potentially criminal activities.
posted on 05/05/2013 7:23:42 AM PDT
To: Old Retired Army Guy
Don’t bet on that, now they have a diversion the new war in the middle east between Israel and Syria.
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