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Everybody but the GOP knows immigration reform guarantees Democrat control forever
Coach is Right ^ | 4/26/13 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 04/26/2013 8:16:35 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Every thinking American, whether conservative or liberal knows that when the feckless Republicans in the Congress fold and stab us in the back by erasing our borders Democrat Party control of our lives will be assured forever.

The sad truth is that we are reduced to hoping that the horrific terror attack on Boston will defeat the Democrats’ plans to swamp our country with ready- made Democrat voters because there seems to be little reason to hope the Republicans will do so.

There are several reasons we should be concerned about the Democrat plan to erase our borders. Nevertheless, we cannot depend on Senate or Congressional Republicans to...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; democrats; gopfolds; illegals; immigration; liberals
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To: Oldpuppymax

Rising above party politics one can also see that “amnesty” would be a huge national disaster even if not a single one of the wetbacks,or their descendants,voted in a single election.


21 posted on 04/26/2013 9:07:55 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Country for sale dirt cheap,price votes.


22 posted on 04/26/2013 9:14:38 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Oldpuppymax

Nah. Once immigrants get to join the country club, they will become Republican just like previous immigrants. Everyone votes their pocketbook. Keep ‘em poor, means keep ‘em democrats. Works for Reagan Democrats too.


23 posted on 04/26/2013 9:26:03 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: kabar

That, too. The amnesty for illegals would get it all done in one big swoop- no having to wait for the buildup of legals and the legal immigration does provide for some acculturation time and some changes in political outlook.Amnesty avoids that by quickly swearing in an overwhelming Democrat majority before the newbies settle in to being Americans. Once they have that and total control of the government the Constitution is de facto and permanent no matter how much minds might change.


24 posted on 04/26/2013 9:35:32 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Oldpuppymax; wardaddy
I remain a registered Republican, who voted for Gov. Romney in 2012, after voting for the Constitution Party in 2004 & 2008, precisely because of the immigration & other unacceptable policies of Bush & McCain.

While I would like to remain a Republican, having been a registered Republican since the Goldwater election, if they do not make it impossible, I will never vote for any Republican who acts as though he has no interest in preserving the ethnic heritage of America.

Let me make this even clearer. My forebears came to America in the 19th Century, some from Central Europe in the early 19th Century, most from Eastern Europe towards the very end. They came to a Federation of States steeped in the Anglo/Celtic values of a unique settler people, who charted their particular cultural destiny in 1776, and affirmed key attributes of it in 1789.

As one sworn both when I entered the military and when I became a lawyer, to uphold that Constitution--entered into in 1789--I understand that betrayal of the cultural heritage of that particular people is a betrayal of my oath, as well as a betrayal of the appealing culture which drew so many others to America, before the Welfare State & "Diversity" Cults, began to undermine that culture.

If the Republican leadership in Washington wants to permanently reject the millions of Americans who think as I do, they will have no chance of future victory in much of what is still at least nominally "America." Wake up, fellows & girls, or be damned from here to eternity!

William Flax

25 posted on 04/26/2013 9:36:02 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Oldpuppymax
some of you who voted for bammey or didn't vote for Romney didn't see this coming?.....

the naivety of some "conservatives" is just mind boggling.

26 posted on 04/26/2013 9:40:03 AM PDT by cherry
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To: ex-snook
If you are not being sarcastic, you are being naive. Look at all the wealthy Democrats on the East Coast & San Francisco; cultural voting patterns persist for generations. If you change American ethnicity--which is what is being attempted by the Left--you permanently change America. Actually to believe otherwise is an insult to all peoples involved.

We are not all so much human putty. If you want Conservative immigrants, you need to restrict immigration to those who share our values, from wherever place they come.

William Flax

27 posted on 04/26/2013 9:43:48 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Oldpuppymax

the rino leadership of the gop knows it. they think it will get them better treatment with the press and more power compromising on bills with the liberals. maybe even high positions as the moderate republican in democrat administrations.


28 posted on 04/26/2013 9:48:15 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

There are still those who think that there is a difference between the GOP and the RATS.

Congress is not concerned with the wellbeing of the nation but with the welfare of its members.


29 posted on 04/26/2013 9:50:45 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not indicate whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: kabar
You are correct. What is not understood, generally, is that the 1965 immigration act was a deliberate attack on the continuity of a Conservative tradition minded America. The new policies deliberately favored those with the least ties to the American past!

This fit in very nicely with the Norman Cousins (Untied World Federalist) formula for undermining American sovereignty. (See Surrender By Subterfuge.)

If all of this be not treason, what is it? It may not be an easy case to prove--because proving the intent to make war on the United States is very difficult--but it is cut from the same cloth as Benedict Arnold or the Norwegian Quisling's rationalizations for actual Treason.

William Flax

30 posted on 04/26/2013 9:51:15 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: arthurus

CA is the canary in the coal mine. The demographics of America will look like CA by 2050. More and more states are turning purple, e.g., VA, CO, NV, and FL, with more on the way like NC. It has been going on for decades. We are being colonized by the Third World.


31 posted on 04/26/2013 10:14:39 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Ohioan

I appreciate the points that you raised but I do think you have overlooked the power of the purse. Yes there are rich democrats but there may be very limited poor republicans. Tax cuts don’t have wide appeal. The Reagan Democrats voted for Reagan and the Bush duo. I am pretty sure this included a lot with immigrant backgrounds. So it is possible. However if their jobs are exported they quickly turn to Democrats. If that is their foreseeable future then they will be forever democrats.


32 posted on 04/26/2013 10:36:04 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: ex-snook
I think that you fail to appreciate the multi-generational aspect of voting patterns. The Reagan Democrats were largely White Blue Collar Democrats, who felt betrayed by their Party over the Civil Rights Movement & Affirmative Action. I do not think that too many of them staid for Bush II, because he was too "politically correct" for them.

For an illustration of my point, you might look at the great difference in voting patterns between two subsets of the German Immigrants, who came to America in the 19th Century. Milwaukee drew predominantly from the Left side of German social identification; Cincinnati from the Right. The descendants still reflect, to a considerable degree similar attitudes. (Even Cincinnati Democrats tend to be less "kookie" than the thugs trying to intimidate others in Wisconsin, after the Tea Party triumph, Statewide, in 2010.)

Another contrast would be between those who settled in enclaves in ports of entry, with their countrymen who went into the hinterlands. Not only are certain national origins more apt to vote Left than others, generally, but there is considerable variation, in inclinations, reflected from arrival on. (See, for example, the discussion of the Goldwater defeat in An American Immigration Policy.)

We need to stop pretending that people are interchangeable. That, as previously stated, is an insult to all.

The point is that we should treat all with respect; but citizenship should be reserved to those who share the values--including the cultural values--of rooted Americans. That means those who honor the purpose stated in the Preamble to the Constitution.

William Flax

33 posted on 04/26/2013 11:40:03 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
"The Reagan Democrats were largely White Blue Collar Democrats, who felt betrayed by their Party over the Civil Rights Movement & Affirmative Action."

C'mon man. The Reagan Democrats were not racists. They were more likely to agree with Ross Perot.

34 posted on 04/26/2013 12:32:02 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I agree with that except for the “forever” part. At some point the Red States will secede. The Democrats dream of enslaving us. They’ll succeed for a while, but ultimately they’ll fail because we’ll leave and then they’ll be stuck with themselves. Lol. Actually, it might be worth the whole mess just to see Bloomberg and his ilk forced to live cheek-to-jowl with “yutes.”


35 posted on 04/26/2013 3:08:33 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: ex-snook
'C'mon man. The Reagan Democrats were not racists. They were more likely to agree with Ross Perot."

Who said that they were "racists?" I said that they were offended ("betrayed") by the Democratic Party's move to the Left in embracing a Civil Rights Movement, which if you analyze it, was certainly racist, in overturning all sorts of basic principles to obtain a race based objective. Or do you think that it is really the business of the Federal Government to police private employment choices; or school district school assignments; or to whom an individual rents a room in his personal residence?

The Reagan Democrats did not want to change American fundamentals, and represented a potential that William Rusher discussed in his 1975 book, The Making Of The New Majority Party.

William Flax

36 posted on 04/27/2013 9:50:07 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Oldpuppymax
This is why I go nuts when people repeat like drones, "Something needs to be done"

No, it doesn't. The status quo is far better than the alternative of legalizing these people and then allowing them to vote.

Short of routing the leftists out of our schools where their kids will learn they are victims of US and never learn anything about America or it's values or shipping them back home--the status quo is the BEST option.ANYTHING to prevent them from voting as long as the leftists have the power and apparatus to manipulate them and mold them into permanent leftist voters.

37 posted on 04/27/2013 9:53:54 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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