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Listen Up: Here Is Proof That Native-Born Citizens And Natural-Born Citizens Are Separate
http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-45077/0-0-0-48575.html ^

Posted on 04/02/2013 9:04:27 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter

The Immigration and Naturalization Service:

“Interpretation 324.2 Reacquisition of citizenship lost by marriage.”

Interpretation 324.2(a)(7):

“(7) Restoration of citizenship is prospective . Restoration to citizenship under any one of the three statutes is not regarded as having erased the period of alienage that immediately preceded it.

The words “shall be deemed to be a citizen of the United States to the same extent as though her marriage to said alien had taken place on or after September 22, 1922″, as they appeared in the 1936 and 1940 statutes, are prospective and restore the status of native-born or natural-born citizen as of the date citizenship was reacquired.”

Interpretation 324.2:

“The effect of naturalization under the above statutes was not to erase the previous period of alienage, but to restore the person to the status IF NATURALIZED, NATIVE, OR NATURAL-BORN CITIZEN, as determined by her status prior to loss.”

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: afterbirfturds; aliens; birftards; birthers; certificate; congress; corruption; illegalalien; immigration; mediabias; nativeborn; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; obamatruthfile; teaparty
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From Interpretation 324.2, the INS clearly states that each delineation, “naturalized, native, or natural-born citizen“, is a separate status. I have noticed there are a lot of Obama supporters people on Free Republic who insist that a native-born Citizen is the same as a natural-born Citizen. Well, that is not true and this is the proof that they are not. This proves that native-born and natural-born are NOT synonymous. You will see that the official recognition by the federal government is that native-born and natural-born should be separately delineated. If you recall in 2008 on Obama's own campaign website Fight The Smears, it stated:

'The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.'

Does Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution specifically call for a native born Citizen to be president? No it does not. It states:

'No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;....'

It's amazing that Obama admitted in plain sight on his own website that he was never eligible to meet the constitutional requirement to be president.

1 posted on 04/02/2013 9:04:27 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

I think he was born in Mombasa, Kenya.


2 posted on 04/02/2013 9:10:50 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
Not only are the two terms mentioned once, but three times in three different parts of that statue.

The terms' meanings used to be closer but the 14th Amendment made them more distinct and certainly the modern day Congressional statue does as well.

3 posted on 04/02/2013 9:11:34 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Excuse me. That should be Interpretation 324.2 (b):

“The effect of naturalization under the above statutes was not to erase the previous period of alienage, but to restore the person to the status IF NATURALIZED, NATIVE, OR NATURAL-BORN CITIZEN, as determined by her status prior to loss.”


4 posted on 04/02/2013 9:15:08 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Doesn’t make much difference now. We have our dictator for life. Laugh at that and you might be surprised. Nothing has even put a dent into the takeover and I fear that nothing can stop it but civil war. Much that has been set in place may never be reversed even if we get the Senate and keep the House. Washington Republicans are a real sick bunch with no backbone except for a very few.


5 posted on 04/02/2013 9:15:33 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

If Obama had been born in Hawaii, there would have been a BC there for him, and there is not.

Also the fraudulent newspaper ad confirms that they are covering up where he really was born.


6 posted on 04/02/2013 9:15:41 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: rxsid

“Not only are the two terms mentioned once, but three times in three different parts of that statue.”

That is correct.


7 posted on 04/02/2013 9:16:11 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: rxsid

“Congressional statue?”

Where is it, in DC?

Statute. :o)


8 posted on 04/02/2013 9:19:06 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

The newspaper birth ads only confirm a child was born, but not where.


9 posted on 04/02/2013 9:21:46 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
The newspaper birth ads only confirm a child was born, but not where.

Easy to find out, somebody would have noticed a bright star over the birth place.

10 posted on 04/02/2013 9:22:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Logical me

Republicants cannot defeat the agenda of the democrips. Republicants live in violation of their oath to OUR Constitution.


11 posted on 04/02/2013 9:24:45 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

There should be a section of definitions in those INS documents. Did anyone search for the definitions section?


12 posted on 04/02/2013 9:24:55 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

For low information voters, make sure they understand that this issue has nothing to do with difference between natural childbirth vs. Cesarean section.


13 posted on 04/02/2013 9:27:32 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Common sense has been replaced in this country by political correctness in some cases, by “New Speak” in others. Witness Same Sex Marriage. I don’t need a court to tell me that there is a difference in Natural born vs. Citizen, Native born etc. The founders said natural born. And they said it for a reason.


14 posted on 04/02/2013 9:32:02 AM PDT by saleman
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To: rxsid; Seizethecarp

Seen Drudge today? Liberals want an “ammunition eligibility certificate.” So they care who’s eligible to buy ammunition but not who’s eligible to carry the nuclear football. That makes sense.


15 posted on 04/02/2013 9:39:13 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Eye of Unk

totally out of context:

§ Sec. 324.2 Former citizen at birth or by naturalization.

(a) Eligibility. To be eligible for naturalization under Section 324(a) of the Act, an applicant must establish that she:

(1) Was formerly a United States citizen;

(2) Lost or may have lost United States citizenship:

(i) Prior to September 22, 1922, by marriage to an alien, or by the loss of United States citizenship of the applicant’s spouse; or

(ii) On or after September 22, 1922, by marriage before March 3, 1931 to an alien ineligible to citizenship;

(3) Did not acquire any other nationality by affirmative act other than by marriage;

...

does not apply in this case. This is about lost citizenship of the specific individual.

This is trolling.


16 posted on 04/02/2013 9:39:52 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“So they care who’s eligible to buy ammunition but not who’s eligible to carry the nuclear football.”

Go figure! Thanks for the ping...


17 posted on 04/02/2013 9:41:51 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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Why do people keep posting this stuff? NOTHING is going to happen to HUSSEIN. Doesn’t matter if he’s a citizen, natural or native - it’s too late, he’s president and there isn’t anything we can do about it.


18 posted on 04/02/2013 9:51:09 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
The words “shall be deemed to be a citizen of the United States to the same extent as though her marriage to said alien had taken place on or after September 22, 1922″, as they appeared in the 1936 and 1940 statutes, are prospective and restore the status of native-born or natural-born citizen as of the date citizenship was reacquired.”

Yes, there is a distinction. But it is a small distinction, and it doe NOT imply that "native-born" is anything less than "natural-born." In fact, the opposite is true.

This statute covered women who had been born US citizens in the United States, and women who had been born US citizens abroad.

Either native-born women (i.e., those born in the United States) or MERELY NATURAL-born women (i.e., those born citizens abroad) could lose their United States citizenship by marrying an alien.

This statute provided that their citizenship should be legally restored just as it was before.

So yes, there is a slight distinction. This statute basically says that persons born abroad of citizen parents are natural born citizens. For this reason it IMPLIES that Ted Cruz is eligible to be elected President. However, US regulations elsewhere note that "natural born citizen" for immigration purposes may not necessarily mean "natural born citizen" for Presidential eligibility (since that question has never been formally decided by the Supreme Court).

All native-born citizens are also natural born citizens, and it is clear that they are legally natural born citizens for Presidential eligibility, regardless of any citizenship status of their parents.

19 posted on 04/02/2013 9:51:59 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: rockabyebaby
People keep posting it because they get attached to a theory and buy into it want to believe it and insist on it, no matter what.

No matter whether it makes any difference or not. No matter whether it's really true or not.

Because they "really, really believe it."

20 posted on 04/02/2013 9:54:03 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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