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Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)
Me | 03/17/2013 | Me

Posted on 03/17/2013 7:34:56 PM PDT by ROTB

Hello Brothers and Sisters in Christ –

We need to seek Jesus with repentance (Acts 26:20), fasting (Matthew 9:15, Mark 2:20, Luke 5:35), weeping, and round the clock prayer, until God visits as he did in the Welsh Revival, after the Revolutionary War, and just before the Civil War, and throughout the 20th century.

The USA is in serious trouble with the LORD. This should be apparent from …

  1. American Christianity has until the coming revival been in decline and is helpless against porn, divorce, sin, …

  2. Despite the LORD telling us in Matthew 5:13 to be "salt", the Church in the USA is so bland and worldly that Nine states have approved of homosexual marriage, despite homosexuality being called “abomination” by God in Leviticus 18:22 and Jesus describing marriage as between man and woman in Matthew 19:5, and God destroying Sodom & Gomorrah for it. Also our federal government who we have not prayed for to be saved per 2 Timothy 1:2, is pushing for homosexual marriage, despite the obvious harm to the health of homosexual men.

  3. 54+ million abortions since 1973. As a nation, do we not serve Moloch?

  4. Our $16 trillion national debt. This reflects on the bankruptcy of our collective consecration to Jesus Christ per Deuteronomy 15:6 and III John 1:2.

  5. China building up it’s military, and has ever increasing nukes pointed at us, and builds civilian fallout shelters to survive a nuclear exchange with us, while Russia is fielding more ICBMs, while internal forces are massing against ours, and our home grown 5th column is alive and well.

  6. Non-religious people catching on to the fact that the USA is being destroyed, right now from the inside, Russia/China/Latin America/Arabs are ganging up on us, to destroy us

  7. Christians are having dreams and visions of coming destruction, including a specific recent dream of our military being targeted.

Some of us Christians were silly enough to think that Mitt Romney, a liberal and a deceived Mormon, would save the USA from the Democrats. Others of us have looked to leadership from famous conservative personalities, and have been disappointed so far.

We need to repent of making idols of, and trusting the following false gods to deliver us:

  1. guns

  2. politics / politicians

  3. debates

  4. going to church once a week

  5. fasting hardly ever, when scripture says we must (Matthew 9:15, Mark 2:20, Luke 5:35)

  6. enjoying hobbies or sports or movies or TV, which are fun, but have crowded out Jesus, to where He is distant, and we don't trust Him like we should

  7. Luke warmness by hearing and not doing what the Bible says

We've tried to heal the nation with politics, whereas God's formula has always been:

2 Chronicles 7:14 - Then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sins, and restore their land.

  1. We humble ourselves, pray, seek God's face, turn from our wickedness

  2. God heals the USA, supernaturally, completely, from the inside out

During such times when the LORD graced his Church with a visitation, evil of all kinds including crime, drinking, swearing, all dropped to practically zero, since God filled everyone with holiness, contentment, and joy.

We must do what they did, so a “holiness restoration” will sweep the USA now, as it did then.

We can absolutely trust God’s word. Therefore, each of us who want to get started on Jesus Christ's felt presence and conviction visiting us, so that God saves us from our enemies internal and external, I beg you to do the following:


  1. Organize nightly prayer meetings anywhere, even if they must meet in different places each night.

  2. Buy tracts for handing out in public.

  3. Re-post and/or forward this call for a holy restoration of the Christian faith.

  4. At the meetings, encourage all to:

    1. seek the LORD Jesus in heartfelt prayer, humble repentance, with open Bibles and hearts, until they have assurance of their salvation

    2. forgive everyone who has wronged them

    3. sincerely apologize to those they have wronged, or cut out, or been bitter against

    4. share with everyone Jesus' loving forgiveness for sinners who want to turn from sin to God

    5. fast secretly periodically, and praise Jesus and pray in Jesus' name throughout their days

    6. anything they suspect they are led to do by the Holy Spirit, that lines up with the Bible

    7. organize nightly meetings of their own

But all of you be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

James 1:22

Let’s get off the sidelines, seek God for a holy restoration of Christians in the USA, by letting loving truthful Jesus flow through us with loving praise, prayer, and thanks all the time.

If you're initially the only one at your nightly prayer meeting, then that's a start. Pray for souls to be convicted or saved into your meeting or anyone else's, and "pray for laborers to be sent into the harvest" per Matthew 9:38 so laborers are sent, and are fruitful.

We could continue to sin in many ways, and further sin by only complaining about, and not praying for the repentance and salvation of:


  1. those who commit vote fraud

  2. low information voters

  3. the Mainstream Media

  4. Communists pretending to be “Liberals” or “Democrats”

  5. abortionists and those who support them

  6. homosexuals

  7. public schools teachers, administrators, and makers of curriculum who deliberately indoctrinate kids into secularism, Islam, etc ...


Let's stop that, and instead love them, forgive them, pray that they repent and turn to the LORD Jesus wholeheartedly, and pray for ourselves to be fully repented and showing good works per Acts 26:20, and striving for perfection per 2 Samuel 22:33, 1 Kings 8:61, Job 1:8, Psalms 101:2, Matthew 5:48, Matthew 19:21, Luke 6:40, John 17:23, and Philippians 3.

Let's pray for them all to come to Jesus and repent, so we won't lose our nation, like we have been in the process of doing.

In previous restorations of holiness, everyone forgot that they were ...

  1. Protestant

  2. Lutheran

  3. Presbyterian

  4. Catholic

  5. Jewish (they “came to Jesus”)

  6. Episcopalian

  7. etc (they also “came to Jesus”)

... and it was all about how wonderful Jesus was, and it was glorious salvation for all involved.

Biblical signs of coming destruction are:

  1. Abominable sins, just like Israel wallowed in before they were destroyed twice.

  2. God raising up enemies to destroy the USA, just as God did with Israel when they broke faith with Him.

  3. Believers having dreams and visions of destruction.

We are 3/3 on the signs of coming destruction. It could not be any clearer.

Do we dare to trust and seek God to rescue us?

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Best Regards,

Freeper ROTB

http://holyrestoration.weebly.com

**Please** let me know if I can add you to the "Holy Restoration" ping list.

But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22


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Brothers and sisters, a holy restoration is coming to the USA.

I beg you, do your part.

1 posted on 03/17/2013 7:34:56 PM PDT by ROTB
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To: hope; hiredhand; bayliving; Maudeen; CityCenter; Greetings_Puny_Humans; yldstrk

Ping!

Added a FAQ to the web site at: http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/faq.html


2 posted on 03/17/2013 7:37:45 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: ROTB

You’re not much of a Christian if you think guns are the problem. Just another liberal claiming to be on our side while trying to disarm us.


3 posted on 03/17/2013 7:39:38 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad

I agree. “To every thing there is a season. And a time to every purpose under Heaven’’.’’ A time to cast away stones and a time to gather stones together’’.’’ Onward Christian soldiers...’’


4 posted on 03/17/2013 7:47:19 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: ROTB; CodeToad

It’s interesting that guns is at the top of your list of false gods.


5 posted on 03/17/2013 7:47:59 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: CodeToad

He has posted this before. If you google his screen name and freerepublic.com it will return the listing.

They must have been removed or something.

I knew I had seen this previously.

Trying to stir up the troops I think.

We do have a nation that is threatened, but as you said the solution is not CW. Anyone advocating that is suspect.


6 posted on 03/17/2013 7:48:04 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: jmacusa

Cast aside those that claim “safety” or “faith” as reasons to be weak.


7 posted on 03/17/2013 7:49:36 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I know. She previously posted this liberal claptrap to the “Religion” forum. I was nicer to the prick then but not in the Blogger forum. Anyone demanding we be disarmed needs to be kicked in the head and hard!


8 posted on 03/17/2013 7:51:00 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad
Guns...

Yeah. I caught that, too.

"But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. " - Luke 22:36

Sell your cloak and buy a sword was an instruction by Jesus to his disciples. He wanted them to be armed.

9 posted on 03/17/2013 7:51:53 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Texas Fossil

“Anyone advocating that is suspect.”

Absofreepinglutely! CWII happens when we are attacked. We will never attack first. Anyone claiming the need to go on the offensive is someone with a badge.


10 posted on 03/17/2013 7:52:51 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: ROTB
search is your friend...


Calling All Christians: Rebellion will bring Civil War 2, and destruction. (VANITY) ^
 
03/16/2013 6:53:00 PM PDT · by ROTB · 34 replies
Me | Me

11 posted on 03/17/2013 7:52:52 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Texas Fossil

Civil War may very well be the ONLY answer. Elections change nothing anymore. How long since spending has been cut, on anything other than the military?

If not civil war, then possibly mass nullification by several states. I’d even expel federal officials from Texas, all of them, or at least then ones not Constitutionally mandated.

I think we’re due for a revolt, politicians won’t listen to anything else.


12 posted on 03/17/2013 7:53:23 PM PDT by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: Texas Fossil
Anyone advocating that is suspect.

And probably a fbi plant also. Trying to manufacture something or entrap some idiot. What you need to do is report him, then his bosses will pull him out.

13 posted on 03/17/2013 7:54:21 PM PDT by sport
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To: concerned about politics

“But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. “ - Luke 22:36

Excellent reference. I hate it when people take bits and pieces of the Bible and string together their life’s theory that they demand we all follow.


15 posted on 03/17/2013 7:57:46 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: ROTB

A Trojan horse....


16 posted on 03/17/2013 7:58:08 PM PDT by ALASKA (CHANGE'n it back !!!!!!!)
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To: Admin Moderator

This poster has cut and paste this same thread dozens of times. When does it become spam?


18 posted on 03/17/2013 8:00:51 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Fiji Hill

“It’s interesting that guns is at the top of your list of false gods.”

No real God about it. Gun Control is a liberal god, as demonstrated by this weak-assed liberal propaganda piece. The author attempts to proclaim faith but preaches the religion of liberalism.


19 posted on 03/17/2013 8:00:54 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Larry Lucido

“This poster has cut and paste this same thread dozens of times. When does it become spam?”

Ditto! The poster is a troll liberal and the kitties should be unleashed!


20 posted on 03/17/2013 8:02:12 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: ROTB

I do not know anyone who worships a gun. They are a tool to protect ourselves and our families.


21 posted on 03/17/2013 8:10:05 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: CodeToad
I've seen this before at least once -- However, I don't read it as demanding disarmament, per se, any more than calling for people to stop going to church ( supposed idol of "going to church once a week".)

We have a tendecy to put a great deal of faith in our guns, our preps, etc, while not putting enough faith in God. BUT, striving to increase our faith in God (a thing we all must try at every single day) does not mean that we should be disarmed. To the contrary, God commands us to be armed ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.") We can acknowledge that we must always try to increase our faith in God, while simultaneously using and giving thanks for the tools God has given us.

If the poster is, indeed, calling for disarmament, then s/he is grossly misinformed, and totally disconnected from reality. The old example of the person in distress crying out 'God, why didn't you help me,' and God facepalming as he points out all the tools He had provided, would apply.

23 posted on 03/17/2013 8:15:27 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: ROTB

Are you going to post the same thing every day?


24 posted on 03/17/2013 8:23:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: ROTB

That you have guns at the top of your list demonstrates your lack of moral backbone and strikes me as intellectually shallow.

China and Russia haven’t the capacity to invade and the army that invades Wisconsin each year would be enough men at arms to repel them.


25 posted on 03/17/2013 8:25:44 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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forgive everyone who has wronged them

It is a laudable personal choice to forgive someone who injured you. However it is your duty to stop that (often insane!) person from doing more harm to others. I am sure you are aware of the quote where a certain millstone is referenced. If there is a killer on the loose, just like it happened in Newtown, isn't it a prescribed duty of any capable adult to stop further harm? If a slave ship docks near your village, isn't it your duty to oppose enslavement of your children using all available avenues? If, after all other ways failed, you need guns to stop an attack, you'd better have them. (That choice could be made for you; pirates often come armed.) God may want you to be peaceful, but He does not want you to be extinct.

I am sure you are also aware of the parable of a religious man who, in a flood, drowned while waiting for God to save him because he refused help from mere humans who were sent by God? It perfectly applies here. The term "instrument of God" was not just invented yesterday. God probably would like1 such an instrument, a good person, to be at Sandy Hook, armed, and stop the killing in its tracks. This would have happened if the society was left to its natural way of development. But too many people today claim to know better than God what God wants, and they are tying the society in knots with their reasoning.

A good Christian, if he was wounded by Adam Lanza but found himself in position to shoot the killer, would do so; he would make sure that the body of Mr. Lanza is not a threat anymore. Only then he would be free to forgive the tortured soul of Mr. Lanza.


[1] This can be trivially derived from a very likely conjecture that God did not want those children to die.

27 posted on 03/17/2013 8:33:59 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“We have a tendecy to put a great deal of faith in our guns, our preps, etc, while not putting enough faith in God...”

Speak for yourself, not the rest of us - my relationship with God is individual.


28 posted on 03/17/2013 8:36:01 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Vendome
That you have guns at the top of your list demonstrates your lack of moral backbone and strikes me as intellectually shallow.

When the Japanese were asked why they didn't invade the U.S. during WWII, they said it was because our people were armed. They said they'd find a weapon behind every blade of grass. Every citizen would have become a soldier.

Had our nation not had a sword, Hitler may have taken over the world. Does ROTB believe it was satan who gave us the wisdom to save ourselves - and the Jewish people? Or were we saved because we were armed, and aided by the hand of God?

29 posted on 03/17/2013 8:36:03 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: CodeToad

That is a sick statement. Jesus did not use weapons. Christians don’t put their faith in guns. If they r called to be martyrs and suffer for their faith that is coidered a blessing direct from The Lord. The so called Christians in this country need to a cf actually read the Bible rather than being spoon fed from the pulpit.


30 posted on 03/17/2013 8:38:54 PM PDT by Deathtomarxists (collapse death heartburn heartache dingdongs diaherea)
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To: ROTB

While I would agree for the need for lukewarm Churchianity to repent and do II Chronicles 7:13-14, I do not think SPAMMING the board with the same vanity thread for two nights in a row under ‘news’ is demonstrating anything other than attention-seeking.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2997647/posts


31 posted on 03/17/2013 8:40:11 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: concerned about politics

ROTB said “guns are a false God”

sounds like trying to disarm us


32 posted on 03/17/2013 8:40:46 PM PDT by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: Fiji Hill

To keep the religious fervor inherent to this thread, Amen....lol.


34 posted on 03/17/2013 8:44:54 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: CodeToad

Roger that.


35 posted on 03/17/2013 8:45:41 PM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: ROTB

Judge Not,

Lest Ye be Judged !

George Washington prayed often while
leading a “rebellion”

Jesus drove money Changers from the Temple with a whip.

get off my lawn.


36 posted on 03/17/2013 8:49:21 PM PDT by Big Red Badger
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To: Marcella
It sounds a tall claim, but I speak for all and stick by that claim.

Every person on earth needs, every single day, to increase his faith in God. God alone. And every person on earth, likewise, has some crutch they rely on, in which they need to decrease their faith.

It can be anything -- casual reading, natchos, swimming, something far worse such as porn. Nobody can ever have enough faith in God, and all people will, to some degree, have faith in some earthly thing.

Obviously there is nothing wrong with enjoying and making use of wholesome tools provided by God. Again, God commands us to be armed, and there is nothing wrong enjoying a wholesome pursuit like hunting and shooting, and appreciating the capacity for protection, defense, and freedom God provides for us via the keeping of arms.

But God is the end all and be all, a fact that nobody can ever fully embrace with their entire heart soul and being, although we must forever strive to.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

37 posted on 03/17/2013 8:51:04 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Deathtomarxists
That is a sick statement. Jesus did not use weapons.

He didn't have to. Evil fled from him.
He did order his apostles to be armed, though. He instructed them to buy a sword.

38 posted on 03/17/2013 8:56:22 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Went shooting today.

Single action three gun cowboy. All were excellent shots and we had a great time.

Couple our proficiency with semiauto’s and we are a deadly force. My main arms are M1A’s and Kimber Tac II.

.308 and .45 delivered accurately over and over and over again is going attrit them real quick.

The Chinese and Russians wouldn’t want to be here. Besides, the ruskies can barely mange to keep a battalion supplied with vehicles that run reliably.

They’d be easy pickings coming off their vehicles as we flanked and flanked and flanked til they got dizzy and gave up.


39 posted on 03/17/2013 9:06:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Deathtomarxists

Right.

Jesus couldn’t swim either.


40 posted on 03/17/2013 9:13:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Deathtomarxists

There is much irony in your post and choice of username.


41 posted on 03/17/2013 9:27:04 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: ROTB

“Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.”—Joel 3:10


42 posted on 03/17/2013 9:35:50 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Deathtomarxists; concerned about politics
That is a sick statement. Jesus did not use weapons. Christians don’t put their faith in guns. If they r called to be martyrs and suffer for their faith that is coidered a blessing direct from The Lord. The so called Christians in this country need to a cf actually read the Bible rather than being spoon fed from the pulpit.

OK, I'll take your advice and read the Bible:

"...if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."--Luke 22:36

43 posted on 03/17/2013 9:42:50 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Deathtomarxists

Jesus did not use weapons
And the Jews’ passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, / And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: / And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables; / And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.

— John 2:13-16

44 posted on 03/17/2013 10:11:00 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: concerned about politics; CodeToad; Fiji Hill; Big Red Badger

Then said he unto them, “But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.And they said, Lord, behold, here [are] two swords. And he said unto them, “It is enough.

Luke 22:36-38


Jesus our LORD, said in Luke 22:36 and Luke 22:37 "he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one" because Jesus wanted, "this that is written must yet be accomplished in me” and then Jesus quotes scripture saying,And he was reckoned among the transgressors"


Breaking down the above verses:


He that has no sword … let him buy one”


the disciples should acquire swords so

this that is written


the Scripture I am about to quote

must yet be accomplished in me


must and will happen right now to me

And he


Isaiah 53:12 being quoted: he = Jesus

was reckoned among the transgressors


Isaiah 53:12 being quoted: was counted with sinners

And they said, “Lord, behold, here [are] two swords


the disciples tell Jesus they have two swords

Jesus says, “It is enough”


Jesus confirms the disciples have enough swords to fulfill Isaiah 53:12

I have parsed Luke 22:36-38 in a way that is consistent with classic commentaries on Luke 22:36-38 by Matthew Henry and Jamieson Fausset & Brown, and you will find they don’t give any license at all to taking up arms against authorities.

Jesus wanted the disciples to buy swords, so scripture could be fulfilled when Jesus would be "reckoned among the transgressors" when his disciples wielded swords and made themselves "transgressors" for Jesus to be "reckoned among the transgressors."


So, if you also want to be a “transgressor”, despite scripture telling us to be “perfect” in Matthew 5:48, Matthew 19:21, Luke 6:40, John 17:23, 1 Corinthians 2:6, 2 Corinthians 13:11, Philippians 3:15, 1 Thessalonians 3:10, 2 Timothy 3:17, Hebrews 13:21, don’t pray for yourself to grow and for others to be saved, drop your Bible, pick up your gun, and steel yourself to fight the government agents who may come for it.


Jesus said the word never contradicts itself in John 10:35. So when Jesus, who is the Word, and LORD, and the 2nd person of the Godhead, said in Matthew 26:52, “Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword, it is in perfect harmony with the above interpretation of Luke 22:36-38.


Otherwise, you would have to think that the LORD God, who made every star, world, plant and animal in all their glorious majesty and order in 6 days, and is called Master, and LORD, the Rock, and The Good Shepherd, would so plainly contradict Himself.


So when scripture says very plainly in 1 Peter 2:13 that we should, “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as to them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well, no license is given to us to rebel against governing authorities.


The Bible further says in Romans 13:4 that government “bears not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that does evil”. If government forces kill you when you rebel with arms, it’s with God’s backing and approval.

If despite all the above scripture, your attitude is still that of “God will forgive me for rebelling and fighting the government when they come for my guns” then ask yourself if God would also forgive witchcraft given 1 Samuel 15:23 says rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft”. Many a self-professed Christian “patriot” who would think nothing of pointing a gun at a government agent and squeezing the trigger, would quickly and decisively declare they would never partake in witchcraft, since it is so clearly a damnable sin committed by the arch-enemies of Jesus Christ.

Yet, the rebellion you still desire “is asdamnable witchcraft in God’s eyes.

Also, again, when you rebel with arms, you invite invasion from China/Russia/etc. They would be fools not to take advantage of your rebellion.

Furthermore, it is not necessary at all to fight tyrannical government with arms if we:

  1. take up the New Covenant defensive and offensive spiritual weapons of God per Ephesians 6:12 and 2 Corinthians 10:3-4 against evil spirits that stir up our elected and appointed officials to do evil

  2. we pray with faith since God can control and guide the hearts of President Obama, Congress, the Supreme Court, government bureaucrats, governors, mayors, state legislators, city councils, the Police, and our Armed Forces per Proverbs 21:1, and we are commanded to pray for them per 1 Timothy 2:1-3. We pray that many witnesses of the Gospel be sent to them per Matthew 9:37, they be convicted of sin like in Acts 2:37, and that God grants them repentance per 2 Timothy 2:25


Only then will they lead us with ever increasing prudence, and Godly wisdom.


A substantive reply to the aforementioned is not, “I feel in my spirit that it’s my divine right by natural law to fight the government with my guns.”


We're Christians, so if our feelings contradict Scripture, they are error.


After I stood face to face with a Mormon and tore down Joseph Smith and/or the reliability of the Book of Mormon, he put his hands on his chest, looked at me very earnestly, and told me that the Holy Spirit tells him the Book of Mormon is of God.


Therefore, to avoid error we need to give scriptural reasons for why we believe and do.


To give a scriptural reply of substance you might:


  1. Parse Luke 22:36-38 in an intelligible way where the disciples are NOT transgressors

  2. Find a reputable commentary that agrees with your position

  3. Given John 10:35 says scripture has no contradictions, please explain how your interpretation of Luke 22:36-38 does not conflict with:

    1. Matthew 26:52 which says, “Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.’

    1. Matthew 5:44 which says, “Love your enemies.

    2. Titus 3:1-2 which says, “Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, [but] gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

    3. 1 Peter 2:13-14 which says, “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

    4. Romans 13:1-2 which says, “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resists the power, resists the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.





46 posted on 03/17/2013 10:32:43 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: GeronL

>I do not know anyone who worships a gun. They are a tool to
>protect ourselves and our families.

Idolatry is anything that comes between you and God.

If you rely on a gun or money, and not God, they become idols. One does not need to ...

- bow down to it
- offer prayers to it
- burn incense to it

... for something to be an idol.


47 posted on 03/17/2013 10:32:50 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: ALASKA

>A Trojan horse....

No. Only misunderstood.


48 posted on 03/17/2013 10:32:54 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: INVAR; Admin Moderator

While I would agree for the need for lukewarm Churchianity to repent and do II Chronicles 7:13-14, I do not think SPAMMING the board with the same vanity thread for two nights in a row under ‘news’ is demonstrating anything other than attention-seeking.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2997647/posts

***

When I posted it, I did specifically mark this thread as both:

1) Bloggers & Personal
2) VANITY

There could very well be something I don’t understand about how to use FreeRepublic.

When I hit the “Post” button, I am greeted with the following options:

- Bloggers & Personal <—— I SELECTED THIS
- General/Chat
- GOP Club
- News/Activism <—— I DID NOT SELECT THIS
- Religion
- RLC Liberty Caucus
- Smoky Backroom
- VetsCoR

Furthermore:

1) I always update what I post to reflect what I learn from those who respond
2) I post it at different times of the day so different people see it
3) I post under different options each time, again, so that different people see it
4) During the 2004 elections, I had several VANITY posts during the same day where I asked for advice on flyering people’s cars. Nobody minded.

Admin Moderator: Is there an official FAQ or list of guidelines I can read on posting etiquette?


49 posted on 03/17/2013 10:32:59 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: Vendome

That you have guns at the top of your list demonstrates your lack of moral backbone and strikes me as intellectually shallow.

***

Please don’t confuse Christianity with American gun culture.

MATTHEW 26:52
52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

MATTHEW 5:39
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Luke 6:30
Give to anyone who asks; and when things are taken away from you, don’t try to get them back.

***

China and Russia haven’t the capacity to invade and the army that invades Wisconsin each year would be enough men at arms to repel them.

1) Obviously they grow, and arm themselves, and they’re thinking about it as I already posted.
2) Russia is the #1 oil exporting nation in the world, and oil is expensive. They have lots of money for arms.
3) Remember Jeremiah 37:10? If we keep sinning as I’ve already posted, God will make what little they have enough to defeat the USA.

JEREMIAH 37:10
10 For though ye had smitten the whole army of the Chaldeans that fight against you, and there remained [but] wounded men among them, [yet] should they rise up every man in his tent, and burn this city with fire.


50 posted on 03/17/2013 10:33:03 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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