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BREAKING: VA Hospital Turns Away Already-Sedated Patient for “Sequester”?
PJ Tatler ^ | March 2, 2013 | Charlie Martin

Posted on 03/02/2013 7:36:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s the story: a patient (who doesn’t want to be named) was at a VA hospital for a colonoscopy — not a routine one, but because of a problem that could be serious. As he tells it:

9 am in or prep room IV and muscle relaxant … given- they’ll give me heavier dose of something before they go in. Sat there near an hour when lady walks in “Govt Shut down. If you’re not in, they’re out.” that was it. Went to patient advocate she had been sent home almost as soon as she arrived I’m guessing to head off volume of complaints...."

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: obama; sequester; sequestercuts; vabenefits; vahospital; veterans
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Well, I knew it wouldn't be an illegal alien or AIDS patient turned away.
1 posted on 03/02/2013 7:36:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At least the moochers still receive welfare checks.


2 posted on 03/02/2013 7:41:57 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to form a .org

WE will take care of our vets.

I have no knowledge of how to go about this. But, we need to pull together, find a way to support those vets whom the government kicks in the teeth.


3 posted on 03/02/2013 7:44:07 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The lesson the bureaucrats think they are imparting is to give them the money they demand or they will punish you. However, the real lesson they are imparting is to never rely on the gov’t for anything.


4 posted on 03/02/2013 7:46:00 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Army Air Corps

I’m sick of the moochers.

They should be the first ones “disenfranchised”.


5 posted on 03/02/2013 7:46:00 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are going to cut the few areas of government that shouldn’t be cut such as the military, and set the stage for people to demand they do whatever is necessary to help our veterans and troops. By doing this, they will get away with expanding government yet again.

While there are some areas of the military that can and should be cut, veterans benefits, combat readiness training, and routine ship maintenance should not be options.


6 posted on 03/02/2013 7:46:04 PM PST by Patriot95
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny how liberals don’t care about spending but they suddenly care about spending. This is designed to smear Republicans leading up to the 2014 election so the Dems can take the House, which they’ll probably STEAL anyway.


7 posted on 03/02/2013 7:46:36 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

our government is like the plant in Little Shop of Horrors. FEED ME! FEED ME!


8 posted on 03/02/2013 7:48:45 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Govt Shut down. If you’re not in, they’re out.”

The same thing happened at the DMV a while back when the government union workers weren't happy about something. They sat around doing cross word puzzles while an old lady stood and waited for almost an hour.
Government union workers are going to start torturing people because of this. They'll be having temper tantrums everywhere. This is a union thug thing.

If you run into a problem with a government union member, call a representative you think will do something about it. If you have only democrats politicians in your area, alert the media. Drudge may also help you if you have a story - like this one.

This has nothing to do with cuts. It has to do with the union.

9 posted on 03/02/2013 7:49:24 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Patriot95

We the People are not an abused wife asking “please don’t hit me again”.

We should counteract anything unreasonable thy do.

Or stand our ground as they suffer. This is war.


10 posted on 03/02/2013 7:49:41 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No way.
We need to know how to help.


11 posted on 03/02/2013 7:51:17 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are trying to push the military to breaking point to unionize it.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=unionize+the+military&oq=unionize+the+military&gs_l=hp.3..0j0i5i30j0i8i30l2.1569.5908.0.6123.21.21.0.0.0.1.901.6165.0j5j3j11j6-1.20.0.les%3Bcpsugrccpqgame..0.0...1.1.5.psy-ab.DqexReUO10c&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43148975,d.b2I&fp=c1860044171a634f&biw=1024&bih=575


12 posted on 03/02/2013 7:52:39 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The government servants think we're their servants.

I smell 1775.

13 posted on 03/02/2013 7:52:39 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The communists really abhor our vets.
I guess because they’ve exterminated so many of their like-minded brethren thru the years. They fear them to no end.
They’ve definitely been showing their true colors here recently. Crap like this will eventually come back to haunt them.


14 posted on 03/02/2013 7:53:48 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: KittenClaws

They call welfare, Section 8 and food stamps “entitlement” programs, but if veterans rather than able-bodied twenty-somethings aren’t “entitled” to help who in the world is?


15 posted on 03/02/2013 7:55:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm gonna need a little more information before I jump on this.

At least a source. Not just a rumor or hearsay.

16 posted on 03/02/2013 7:55:35 PM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: Patriot95

Veteran’s benefits in general are under the VA, not the Department of Defense.


17 posted on 03/02/2013 7:57:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Someone should inform this guy that he can get a colonoscopy in the private sector for $950 if he reaaly needs one. He probably shouldn't wait for government assistance.
18 posted on 03/02/2013 8:00:35 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Our morality tells us this is so.

But, if the regime won't do it, then we take each story, each person, find out all we can, and Donate!

There is more than one way to skin a cat.

These stories are intended to make us cave.

We harden our hearts for the cause, or we form a .org to help.

But we don't give in to this krap.

19 posted on 03/02/2013 8:04:48 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hi, 2ndDivisionVet. I hope y’all are doing well.

I can’t believe that this is a “true” story. This seems just like something the “regime” would cook up and spread far and wide to further the fake outrage of these tiny “budget cuts.”

While I put NOTHING past the commies in the “Obama” administration, I am certain they will create unnecessary fake scenes like this, so they can pretend the “Republicans” are doing the hurting that they themselves are doing.


20 posted on 03/02/2013 8:05:02 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Aria

No. Our government is more like a down and out junkie craving his next “fix.”


21 posted on 03/02/2013 8:05:02 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Aria

Little Shop of Horrors. FEED ME! FEED ME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7SkrYF8lCU


22 posted on 03/02/2013 8:06:56 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t worry, we’re still sending billions to our enemies.


23 posted on 03/02/2013 8:10:01 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: WXRGina
We need to find out one way or the other.

BTW, recently saved up some pennies to buy a MagicJack VOIP phone so I could work from home. What a piece of junk! No one can hear me!! Any suggestions?

24 posted on 03/02/2013 8:19:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: WXRGina
I can’t believe that this is a “true” story. This seems just like something the “regime” would cook up and spread far and wide to further the fake outrage of these tiny “budget cuts.”

If so, it'll backfire - big time. The vets are denied medical care while moochelle walks around like Imelda Marcos and Oboma flies off to the Bahamas for a weeks worth of golfing?
If the left wants to push this one, the Obomas had better never have another glamorous party for their Hollywood friends, their kids, or fly off to some island resort for a nice, relaxing break from all that wealth in Washington.

We'll be watching, very closely, what the Obomas are spending on themselves, and how many vets that money would have saved.

25 posted on 03/02/2013 8:21:01 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2ndDV, I’m ignorant about phones that are not land lines. I don’t even own a cell phone or a television, cro-magnon that I am.


26 posted on 03/02/2013 8:25:32 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: concerned about politics; 2ndDivisionVet
We'll be watching, very closely, what the Obomas are spending on themselves, and how many vets that money would have saved.

Who's most worthy of our assistance, welfare queens or vets who've served our country? Not a difficult decision.

27 posted on 03/02/2013 8:26:25 PM PST by Jane Long
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I doubt that this is accurate.

The VA’s budget is a seperate entity that is on a 2 year cycle. Their budget is not connected to the budget of the Department of Defense.


28 posted on 03/02/2013 8:26:32 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: airborne

It matters to validate the source, but considering the intimidation and danger in releasing the criminal aliens, lies about layoffs, threats about security, lack of resources for mil ops, etc., this potential story is but one of many examples of the tyranny we’re suffering.

Imagine how the other party might handle such an untruth. If it served their purpose, the Democrats would legitimize this story dismissing fabrication and deceit — they’d describe it as an essential narrative that points to the horrific abuses inflicted by the opposing party.

I know, we’re not them.


29 posted on 03/02/2013 8:28:27 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Welcome to socialized medicine, where budget cuts can kill.


30 posted on 03/02/2013 8:28:57 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
BTW, this poor veteran couldn't get a colonoscopy, but moochelle Marcos can spend $6,000.000 on a dress for her 60 second glamor fest at the oscars?

Yep. If Oboma wants to make these cuts look bad, we've got to make sure everyone knows how much the obomas are wasting on....... themselves.

If only one vet could be saved.....

31 posted on 03/02/2013 8:28:57 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This narrative does not sound koscher. This person was premedicated for a scheduled proceedure. Unless there are other extenuating circumstances, such as an adverse reaction to the premedication drugs, I cannot envision a physician having the person go thru 'clean-out' (not pleasant) and capriciously cancelling.

If, however, this is true, it should be immediately referred to the State Board of Medical Examiners as well as filing a complaint with HCFA. The patient should also file a complaint at the hospital and ask for morbidity/mortality review committee to review the propriety of this decision to cancel.

That said, I feel like there is more to this than is being reported.

32 posted on 03/02/2013 8:30:04 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (THA)
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To: 43north
I know that, but where in the article did it mention the DoD budget? Wouldn't the VA be open to sequestration, especially since this is an administration with an animus towards former military?
33 posted on 03/02/2013 8:30:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This doesn’t ring true, I understand the patient wanting to keep his name out of it but where was this? Seems more likely appointments would be canceled ahead of time if care cannot be provided. As far as I know Veteran’s Hospital medical personnel are not subject to furlough, and most VA related things are exempt...though military hospitals and personnel (civilian doctors, nurses, etc.) are subject to sequestration/furloughs.


34 posted on 03/02/2013 8:35:23 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: concerned about politics

I know our dear Veterans are being shafted. It is sickening to the depths of our souls.

This evil group of enemies of America that is ruling our country is only just getting warmed up, and it’s unlikely that they will be exposed, because the entire “mainstream information” media is flooding the country with its lies from Hell.


35 posted on 03/02/2013 8:35:50 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sketchy info. I doubt this happened.


36 posted on 03/02/2013 8:41:06 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Tammy8

IIRC, there aren’t civilian doctors and nurses at military hospitals, but it’s been a long time since I was in one.


37 posted on 03/02/2013 8:42:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I doubt it. The VA is/was not effected by the sequester. By law, their funding comes 3 years in advance to ensure they aren’t caught up in wild budget fluctuations. This is either someone’s wild fantasy, or an internet hoax. BTW, I’m a vet and I’m very happy with the care they have given me.


38 posted on 03/02/2013 8:54:45 PM PST by BigChinoDon
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To: BigChinoDon

“BigChinoDon” are you from Chino?


39 posted on 03/02/2013 9:08:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh yes there are many civilian doctors and nurses, etc. at military hospitals now; my husband goes to a military hospital for treatment regularly and my oldest daughter is a civilian nurse working for DOD in an Army medical clinic. What most people don’t realize is with the volunteer military many jobs the military used to do themselves are now done by civilian DOD personnel or contractors.


40 posted on 03/02/2013 9:19:42 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have you looked into Vonage?

I can’t say if they are any good or not...I still use a landline and occasional cell phone.


41 posted on 03/02/2013 9:22:27 PM PST by berdie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I live in a Chino, there are many.


42 posted on 03/02/2013 9:28:40 PM PST by BigChinoDon
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To: BigChinoDon

California?


43 posted on 03/02/2013 9:30:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: WXRGina

Isn’t it a simpler explanation this actually happened, and it is being blamed on the sequester? They are releasing THOUSANDS of jailed illegal aliens, turning ships back to port etc, and people wonder if they would do this?


44 posted on 03/02/2013 9:32:24 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope


45 posted on 03/02/2013 9:41:29 PM PST by BigChinoDon
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To: BigChinoDon

I grew up in Chino, California, so I wondered.


46 posted on 03/02/2013 9:43:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Tau Food

The V.A. is NOT government “assistance.” It is earned.


47 posted on 03/02/2013 10:09:11 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Tau Food

While i am of the belief that VA healthcare should be treated more like an insurance the fact is that its an earned benefit vets receive through sacrifice..he shouldnt have to wait because freeloaders in Chicago receive precedence for being too lazy to work.

But as others have said this doesnt smell kosher.


48 posted on 03/02/2013 10:09:33 PM PST by aft_lizard
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To: airborne
odd story and very unlike what the scenario would be for a scope on the "outside"....can't imagine an iv being started, and a muscle relaxant given unless the patient was in a bed, being monitored...

but from what I hear of the VA...its hit and miss when you get in ...my bil's both on VA have been waiting weeks to find out when their surgeries will be done....and then, when the date is set, they better be sure they keep the appts because the next time will be a much longer wait...

49 posted on 03/02/2013 10:09:43 PM PST by cherry
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To: Tau Food

If he’s like me, he uses the VA system because he doesn’t have private medical insurance or $950.


50 posted on 03/02/2013 10:51:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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