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Reputed Gay Bathhouses Remain Open In NYC
Friends of Ours ^ | 02/28/13 | Friends of Ours

Posted on 02/28/2013 2:04:00 PM PST by AtlasStalled

In the name of public health Nanny Bloomberg in New York City won't let his subjects gulp down a 16-ounce soda or light up a cigarette at a bar but as the HIV epidemic continues unabated it's apparently still okay to cruise for anonymous sex among the maze-like corriders of the East and West Side Clubs where gay men can rent claustrophobic cubicles for their presumed hookups.

A new study released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention concludes that "one in five gay men in the United States has HIV, and almost half of those who carry the virus are unaware that they are infected" as reported by Darryl Fears for The Washington Post.

And yet so-called gay bathhouses in New York City apparently remain open.

Dr. Demetre C. Daskalakis, a professor at New York University’s School of Medicine, "has been conducting HIV research in two Manhattan bathhouses—the East Side Club and the West Side Club—since 2006" as reported by a Jan 22. 2008 article ("Researchers Support NYC Bathhouse Regulation") for POZ Magazine: "so far, he has tested about 1,000 MSMs [men who have sex with men] for HIV and other STDs and has referred those in need of health care to Bellevue Hospital, which is funding his studies." A July 2, 2009 article ("HIV Testing in NYC Bathhouses") by Kristina Fiore for MedPage Today states:

"As the number of HIV cases in the U.S. soars -- especially among gay and black men, and particularly in New York City -- one physician is going where few have gone before in terms of prevention efforts: straight to the late-night gay scene. Dr. Demetre Daskalakis runs the first-ever HIV testing venue at a New York bathhouse in Chelsea. * * * Daskalakis can find no better place to do his work. Today, some men come to the club just for the free test, not the sex. That, Daskalakis says, makes keeping the clinic door open into the wee hours of a Manhattan weekend morning worth it."

The preliminary results from Dr. Daskalakis's research are not encouraging: "HIV positive MSM attending bathhouses represent an important group to target for HIV education and prevention since many continue to engage in high-risk sexual activities."

Apparently Mayor Bloomberg doesn't care if his gay constituents get HIV as long as they aren't fat or smell like an ashtray.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aids; bugchasers; cultureofcorruption; doublestandard; hiv; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; publichealth; publicsex; stds; venerealdisease

1 posted on 02/28/2013 2:04:03 PM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

Disgusting beyond words.


2 posted on 02/28/2013 2:07:01 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

If this were a house with women in it instead of men they would call it a whore house and close it down.

Well: Maybe they wouldn’t in New York , but in most places they would.


3 posted on 02/28/2013 2:15:14 PM PST by Venturer
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To: AtlasStalled

Could be worse ... they could be sipping a 32 oz. sugary drink, puffing a cigarette and doing it at the same time!! Maybe Bloomberg could publicize that queer sex is much healthier in NYC and draw in some of those unhealthy living queers from SF.


4 posted on 02/28/2013 2:19:15 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Leveling the playing field for a Progressive is dragging everyone down to their level.)
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To: AtlasStalled

Smoking banned everywhere in NYC. Sipping large drinks banned everywhere in NYC. Gay sex allowed everywhere.

If you are a man in NYC and you have something long and round in your mouth, there better be a body attached to it.


5 posted on 02/28/2013 2:26:24 PM PST by detective
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To: AtlasStalled

They make it still look like people are dying in the streets of AIDS but the death toll from 2009 was approximately 17,000. I don’t wish that on anyone but it is preventable.

Yet cancer deaths for 2012 are expected to be: 577,190.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22237781
That’s an enormous difference.

I would say we spend too much on HIV/AIDS when we should put the money in cancer research, I could care less what Oprah thinks.

Traffic fatalities in 2011 were approximately, 32,000. Worse than AIDS as well.


6 posted on 02/28/2013 2:30:54 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: AtlasStalled

When the AIDS pandemic first got underway, I’ll never forget the “gay” community protesting vehemently these places should stay open even though they were the primary cause for the disease’s spread. Stunning...
Also, don’t forget Gov of PA, McGreevey (sp) coming out of the closet by telling of his anonymous hook ups in the bath rooms of rest stops on the Jersey Turnpike and Garden State Pkwy. Not a peep on that...
We have sunk SO low.....


7 posted on 02/28/2013 2:31:18 PM PST by matginzac
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

It’s all part of the celebrated culture of death.


8 posted on 02/28/2013 2:31:32 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: AtlasStalled
"HIV positive MSM attending bathhouses represent an important group to target for HIV education and prevention since many continue to engage in high-risk sexual activities...."

Noooo, this is at odds with Planned Parenthood who tells minors and young adults with HIV-AIDS to feel free to spread it to as many partners as they like without feeling pressured to even tell the partners they have a disease.

9 posted on 02/28/2013 2:36:24 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 353FMG

No, I think it’s more the celebrated culture of depravity.


10 posted on 02/28/2013 2:37:43 PM PST by lbryce (BHO:"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way Oppenheiner at Trinity NM)
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To: matginzac

Gov of NJ you mean.


11 posted on 02/28/2013 2:43:13 PM PST by kallisti (courage almost always wins)
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To: AtlasStalled

Bathhouses are still open and visited routinely by the bathhouse boys at the New York Times.


12 posted on 02/28/2013 2:43:35 PM PST by double_down
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To: AtlasStalled

The despot also promotes bicycling which kills more and more people every year, probably the most well known being the sister of Alan Dershowitz who was crushed by a UPS truck. Don’t drink soda (he also issued a edict this week prohibiting 2 liters sodas with pizzas deliveries) but telling people and incredibly kids it’s cool to ride bikes around speeding multi-ton trucks, cars, taxis is OK. The gay bathhouses don’t surprise me because I tend to believe the mincing despot is a closet case. NYC is a despotic state, and if people think it can’t happen in the USA may I introduce them to the city of New York. Guns, smoking, soda is the least of what he bans. He also bans food donated to the homeless and privacy in your own home, oh and small businesses. If you want to start one forget it unless you want to work for nothing.


13 posted on 02/28/2013 2:46:42 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: kallisti

Ooooops, thanks for the correction...I mention the NJ Turnpk...duh!


14 posted on 02/28/2013 2:47:33 PM PST by matginzac
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To: AtlasStalled

If you’re going to the bathhouse, Don’t forget to take your meth, Viagra, poppers, booze, weed, blow, and whatever else floats your boat... good times are sure to be had!


15 posted on 02/28/2013 2:48:41 PM PST by Third Person (Do the Strandski!)
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Tax funded Planned Parenthood thinks kids and young adults should spread HIV-AIDS if they have it and not feel the need to tell their “partners”. They pass these pamphlets out to your children.

I think this says all we need to know about them.

http://ippf.org/resources/publications/healthy-happy-hot


16 posted on 02/28/2013 2:55:56 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Venturer

“If this were a house with women in it instead of men they would call it a whore house and close it down.”

The difference is most men don’t charge for it. Yes, there are gay prostitutes but very few of them demand the fees that top women do.

Since there’s little cash changing hands, the police/government can’t get much side action out of “outlawing” this vice. There are no drug dealers or pimps with mountains of cash to skim.

So move along folks, nothing to see here...


17 posted on 02/28/2013 2:56:52 PM PST by varyouga
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To: AtlasStalled

Being Gay doesn’t cause AIDS or HIV infection. Having anonymous unprotected sex spreads the virus. Most libs will blame the government and straight heterosexuals, but never would they promote abstinence or monogamy.


18 posted on 02/28/2013 2:59:20 PM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: Venturer

Remember that the Stonewall riots were over the police closing of an illegally operated mob run speakeasy.

Corruption has sway in NYC, especially if you are a member of a protected class, such as homosexualists.


19 posted on 02/28/2013 2:59:47 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: matginzac
When the AIDS pandemic first got underway, I’ll never forget the “gay” community protesting vehemently these places should stay open even though they were the primary cause for the disease’s spread. Stunning...

The gay "life-style" is all about sex - on demand, without conditions, and usually anonymous. That is the absolute sum and core of it, and there is nothing else. "Marriage," relationships, health, companionship are all absolutely secondary considerations

20 posted on 02/28/2013 3:04:46 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Dallas59
Being Gay doesn’t cause AIDS or HIV infection.

It helps. Those men having sex with men practices are extremely nauseating and dangerous. Because of the sheer unnaturalness of the act, condoms do help but only in a very limited measure.

21 posted on 02/28/2013 3:08:02 PM PST by Stepan12
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To: AtlasStalled

I tried watching a short portion of “And the Band Played On” on-line, once. In it, they depicted a “gay” bathhouse. Disgusting. I’m not sure it it was just a depiction or a real one, but I really didn’t care to know.


22 posted on 02/28/2013 3:08:50 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: AtlasStalled

aids doesn’t make you fat so it’s a-ok with bloomieberg


23 posted on 02/28/2013 3:24:41 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Stepan12

The biggest concern is that while gay and bisexual men represent
only 2% of the population they represent 60 percent of new HIV diagnosis. If you couple these with syphilis, it jumps to 70%.
You cannot tell me that more education is needed. It is like throwing grease on fire.
What is more disturbing is that the 45% of cases involve those between the age of 13 and 29. No, there is something more at play.
Science will catch up and decide that there is a cause for such behavior. It is 3 fold and, as a society, we have become part of it. Will people believe it? Hell no, and that is part of the problem.
It has become controlled by indoctrination propaganda and exploitation, and it stinks!


24 posted on 02/28/2013 3:29:58 PM PST by mazz44
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To: AtlasStalled
With what homosexual males do the more frequent they bathe the better.
25 posted on 02/28/2013 3:35:27 PM PST by Happy Rain ("American patriots are dangerous animals--they defend themselves when attacked.")
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To: PGR88

Absolutely...


26 posted on 02/28/2013 3:40:48 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Lx; AtlasStalled
They make it still look like people are dying in the streets of AIDS but the death toll from 2009 was approximately 17,000. I don’t wish that on anyone but it is preventable.

The only reason many more aren't dying is due to expensive drug treatments heavily subsidized by taxpayers.

27 posted on 02/28/2013 3:44:25 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Bloomberg needs his regular colon cleansing


28 posted on 02/28/2013 3:46:05 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Absolutely! Eventually, science will prove that such behavior is avoidable and reversible and be willing to state it. It is already moving toward such. There is not one cause and we are, as a country and species, dangerously becoming part of a problem that will paralyze us and keep humanity from resolving it, thus preventing pain, hardship, suffering and death


29 posted on 02/28/2013 3:53:16 PM PST by mazz44
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To: Dallas59
Being Gay doesn’t cause AIDS or HIV infection. Having anonymous unprotected sex spreads the virus.

And homosexuals have a LOT of anonymous unprotected sex. Plus the colon is a lot more permeable to viruses than a vagina is.

From The Negative Health Effects of Homosexuality

· A.P. Bell and M.S. Weinberg, in their classic study of male and female homosexuality, found that 43 percent of white male homosexuals had sex with 500 or more partners, with 28 percent having 1,000 or more sex partners.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), from 1994 to 1997 the proportion of homosexuals reporting having had anal sex increased from 57.6 percent to 61.2 percent, while the percentage of those reporting "always" using condoms declined from 69.6 percent to 60 percent.

· The CDC reported that during the same period the proportion of men reporting having multiple sex partners and unprotected anal sex increased from 23.6 percent to 33.3 percent. The largest increase in this category (from 22 percent to 33.3 percent) was reported by homosexuals twenty-five years old or younger

If a new strain of HIV comes along which is resistant to all current treatments, homosexual promiscuity will likely propagate it across the US within a year.
30 posted on 02/28/2013 4:09:02 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: AtlasStalled

The Democrats love the homosexuals. Remember, the Democrats think the planet can only support 30 million people. The homosexual men party hard, have no children, donate to the Democrats and die like flies.


31 posted on 02/28/2013 4:11:33 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: fwdude

Is there any such thing as a bathhouse that isn’t gay?


32 posted on 02/28/2013 4:16:44 PM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Lx

AIDS isn’t a disease, it’s a Civil Rights status.


33 posted on 02/28/2013 5:14:43 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: AtlasStalled

Bloomers acts like he’s a British king. All empty bluster -loud, obnoxious and pinheaded.

He mounts his throne and bans sodas and while leaving his bath houses open. What a total embarassment to humanity. Friend of Obama.


35 posted on 02/28/2013 8:27:56 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: AtlasStalled

Very ironic, this - from a guy who won’t let anyone suck down two liters, provided its Coca Cola.


36 posted on 02/28/2013 11:22:53 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Dallas59
Being Gay doesn’t cause AIDS or HIV infection.

Nope, and being an intravenous drug user doesn't cause AIDS or HIV infection either. Aren't you glad we can point these things out? Be sure to tell your son, if you have one.
37 posted on 03/02/2013 9:00:06 AM PST by golux
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