Posted on 02/26/2013 11:00:23 AM PST by marktwain
The .300 AAC Blackout has taken the industry by storm and is considered one of the hottest new cartridges for hunting feral hogs with AR/MSR platform rifles. This versatile cartridge provides the ability to shoot subsonic ammunition for low-noise applications and supersonic ammunition for longer-range shots. Nikon has developed the all-new P-300 BLK riflescope to embrace both applications and to harness the effectiveness of this exciting new caliber.
“When you look at what the .300 Blackout cartridge can do in terms of effectiveness, it really is an amazing caliber. Nikon is excited to jump into the mix and give shooters a riflescope that was designed from the ground up to match the ballistic profiles of .300 AAC Blackout,” said Jon LaCorte, senior product marketing manager of Nikon Sport Optics.
The P-300 BLK comes in 2-7×32 magnification with an all-new BDC SuperSub reticle that is calibrated for use with both supersonic and subsonic ammunition and is fully compatible with Spot On™ Ballistic Match Technology. The BDC SuperSub reticle offers shooters unique, open circle aiming points out to 600 yards, in 100-yard increments, with additional hash-marks at 50-yard distances. It is built with Nikon’s Fully Multicoated optical system with up to 98% light transmission, which offers bright, high-resolution viewing, even in low light situations.
Making adjustments in the field is now incredibly easy with Nikon’s spring-loaded instant zero-reset turrets. Just sight in at 100 yards, then lift the adjustment knob, rotate to your “zero,” and re-engage. Hand-turn reticle adjustments are made in ¼-inch click-stop moves that can be felt and heard. The P-300 BLK is waterproof, fogproof and backed by Nikon’s full lifetime warranty. MSRP for the P-300 BLK is $199.95.
I predict 200+ replies on this thread. Further, it will go off topic in less than.....mmmmm...75.
I seriously doubt I’m giving anything away by keeping my little AK caliber Saiga rifle and keeping the 5G for the exotic new rifle in my own bank account....
How about them Mosin Nagants? ;)
... ... but I like it !!!!
Haha! One down, one to go.
193 to go
Anyone have a good cinnamon toast recipe?
300 AAC? Okay, do you have the ballistics for this? I ask solely from curiosity. How does it stack up against all of the other .30 caliber range rounds? While those are effective rounds, and plenty of hunters have had great sucess with them, I prefer a 12ga, with either a slug, three ball shot, or 00buck for feral pigs and boars. I guess it depends on geography and personal likes. In the end, it’s all good if you bring home dinner.
How effective is that subsonic round against blue helmets?
Purty danged so I’d reckon. Wikipedia has some good details on the round’s performance.
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Maximum effective range =
460 metres (503 yd) 125 grain supersonic
200 metres (219 yd) 220 grain subsonic
Barrel ............... Cartridge ................................Velocity ................... Energy
9 in (230 mm) barrel 300 AAC Blackout, 115 gr UMC 2,120 ft/s (650 m/s) 1,136 ft·lbf (1,540 J)
16 in (410 mm) barrel 300 AAC Blackout, 115 gr UMC 2,295 ft/s (700 m/s) 1,344 ft·lbf (1,822 J)
9 in (230 mm) barrel 300 AAC Blackout, 125 gr OTM 2,030 ft/s (620 m/s) 1,143 ft·lbf (1,550 J)
16 in (410 mm) barrel 300 AAC Blackout, 125 gr OTM 2,215 ft/s (675 m/s) 1,360 ft·lbf (1,840 J)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_AAC_Blackout_%287.62%C3%9735mm%29
You had me at bacon
Side point, for those of us who can't afford an AR or the functional equivalent for every caliber we shoot, (or wish to shoot), NEF makes their neat little single-shot in this caliber.
If someone knows of a good bolt gun at an entry level price point I wouldn't mind knowing about that, either.
Edit: “...a good bolt gun with a threaded muzzle...”
.300BLK forum is at http://300blktalk.com/ run by the guy who designed it.
4 parts sugar to 1 part cinnamon on heavily buttered toast.
“...feral hogs...”
This is good for both the two legged and four legged varieties? Or should I just stick with my 7.62x39?
This little Mossberg Patrol Rifle is in .300 AAC, has a threaded muzzle, and uses AR15 magazines.
“The MVP Patrol is a bolt action centerfire rifle. It features a spiral bolt, fluted barrel. Comes with picatinny rail and the LBA in adjustable trigger. Stock comes in classic black. It has a 10 round capacity. Receiver is matte blue and has a factory installed weaver style base. Threaded with A2 Flash Suppressor. Comes with 1 magazine. Accepts AR-15 style magazines.”
The .300blackout was designed because the .223 just did not have the stopping power. This is a serious load. Problem right now is availability of the cartridge. Cabella’s, etc carry a variety of .223, etc but little in the .300 blackout. I get mine from a local gunshop. Bit more pricy than the .223 but it is a much stronger load, even in sub-sonic.
“This is good for both the two legged and four legged varieties? Or should I just stick with my 7.62x39?”
The 300 AAC advantage would only be in using 220 grain bullets at sub-sonic velocities. The rifling twist of one turn in 8” allows you to use those heavier bullets. So unless you want to use a silencer and not have the bullet break the sound barrier stick with your 7.62x39.
Thank you.
Very cool. I saw this demo’ed when it was presented at the Shot Show. Almost unbelievable. Bad news for ‘targets’.
“The weapon will be banned before its produced ... and the ammo for it will be impossible to come by”
Ummm, upppers have been produced in .300 blackout for quite some time.
“The .300blackout was designed because the .223 just did not have the stopping power.”
No, the .300BLK was designed because the .223 does not function at subsonic velocities - and because AAC is first and foremost a suppressor manufacturer.
The .300 Whisper is close to fulfilling the intent of slapping a suppressor on an AR platform, but being a “wildcat” cartridge is designed and produced with insufficient rigor to make it as a viable military/CQB round. Refining the .300 Whisper for registering SAMMI specs, optimization for feeding in an AR platform with minimal adjustments (barrel & bolt, no change to magazine), and ensuring a hefty & reliable thumping at both supersonic and subsonic velocities at meaningful ranges, all emerged as the .300BLK design.
Having built the ammunition for impressive performance with a suppressor, AAC is now expanding platforms and accessories to make it a very attractive caliber - and make sales of accompanying suppressors a given. The AR platform was the first obvious choice, promoted with specialized uppers, whole guns, and culminating in their impressive “Honey Badger” gun. Being a serious caliber, and AAC having been purchased by Remington, the next obvious platform was a bolt action rifle, resulting in the Remington 700 AAC in .300BLK (pre-threaded for suppressor, of course). If you’re going to spend some $800 on a specialty rifle and a $1000 can to go with it, you’ll be wanting a suitable scope to mount thereon - hence the Nikon glass leading this thread.
Adapt the 7.62x39 to fit & feed in an AR15 platform with minimal adjustments to the latter, with an eye toward suppression, and you get the .300 Whisper. Optimize that for rigorous manufacturing and military application and suppressor use (both super and sub sonic), and you get the .300BLK.
Proceed accordingly.
Can we get Michael Savage’s Meatball Recipe ???
Wish I could get one in Maryland ... They are about to ban pea shooters here in Maryland because you can stuff more than 20 peas in your mouth ... it would now be classified as an assault weapon with a high capacity mags.
On average I’ll shoot about 60 to 70 feral hogs a year and between 30 and 40 coyotes on the big ranch. The 300 Blackout couldn’t handle this type of hunting, most is long range and running. I’ve been through several ranch rifles and the 243 shooting 70 grain Noslers at about 3600 fps is my go to caliber. While I’m not a big fan of the 308 it’s probably one of the best hog rounds out there in the right platform but it lacks in the extended range department. This is open country and fast and flat covers allot of area’s. When I get really serious about knocking down the song dogs I break out the 257 Weatherby but that caliber is not cheap to shoot. Now before anybody says the 308 is great long range round let me say this. In a match where you have known yardage and time to dial in your scope it’s a great round, it’s accurate and easy on the shoulder. When you have running critters at unknown yardages and just a few seconds to get a shot of it don’t cut the mustard. Fast and flat eliminates allot of guess work.
Out of Stock.
I’ve got allot of friends that use the blackout for nightime hog hunting where the distance is 50 yards or shorter and they all say the same thing. The twist needed for the sub sonic rounds will not work for the higher velocity rounds so you need two dedicated uppers for your AR’s.
Never heard of .300 AAC. The short-fat fad is dead, so I’m sure it is not just a shortend 300 WSM.
Is this just a shortened .308 with improved neck or something? Sounds like some kind of accurate 7.62x39 cartridge. I’ll be surprised if it is dimensionally much different than a 7.62x39.
Thank goodness for the internet. Time to do some research...
Yep, I was dead right. They just mimicked the 7.62x39 ballistics in a shorter case. 7.62x35. whoopee. Same ballistics as a .30-30.
Who needs .300 Blackout for hogs. Grab dads old .30-30 levergun and go to town. Better yet for hogging, grab his .35 remington.
I’m not knocking this new round. The manufactures have to keep re-inventing the wheel to keep profits up. And it gives AR platform shooters a .30 car option. I have to admit, if I could own an AR here in California, I would far rather have one in this .30 Blackout than .223.
The problem is that .556 surplus used to be dirt cheap. The .300 Blackout sounds hella expensive. What is the point?
Guess I’m gonna disagree and this May be an experience thing.
I shoot M1A .308 and or sniper use .308 , .300 and 343.
They shoot human beings as far as 1,500 yrds
that through 3-5 bandages, various light conditions, weather, dust, etc.
You might be shooting female at 300+ yrs but I go to a friends ranch and They aren’t 100 yrds and mostly under 50.
They don’t run much and if they did I’m lazy and might wait until they sto running anyway. Kept if they are looked or looking for a restroom.
No reason for them to be Sun
I believe you completely missed the point I was making.
The big advantage of the .300 AAC is that it has the twist to accurately shoot 220 grain, ballisticly efficient subsonic projectiles. With a suppressor, you have excellent capabilities to 200 yards, virtually silent, that uses standard AR-15 magazines.
There is no other .30 caliber with a standard twist fast enough to stabilize heavy for caliber rounds.
Prolly. I was just so excited that anyone had pinged me today and I just started thinking out loud and next thing I knew I spouting off via my keyboard.
I knew what you meant.
LOL
I was envisioning using this scope with a drone and it’s cameras...shooting targets I couldn’t see with the naked eye.
I bet the next shortage will be *out of stock* stickers.
.300BLK is a formalized version of .300 Whisper. The point is use with a silencer, sub- and super-sonic velocities, in an AR15 platform with minimal changes. Some shooters consider silencer use an imperative, and this caliber optimizes ammunition within that constraint.
If you’re not planning on using a silencer, this round isn’t for you.
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