Skip to comments.Brief and Direct: Why are Firemen Always the First To Be Laid Off?
Posted on 02/26/2013 5:40:18 AM PST by KeyLargo
Brief and Direct: Why are Firemen Always the First To Be Laid Off?
After garbage workers, that is.
By: Flagstaff (Diary) | February 25th, 2013 at 08:33
Maybe because well miss them the most.
Because the President has forgotten hes already been elected and hes been campaigning across the country to defeat his own idea, there are too many sources to quote regarding the dire consequences President Obama sees if the sequester, or Budget Control Act of 2011 (BCA), isnt averted. So without individual attribution here are some of the services we will lose.
Local first respondersfire, police, EMS.
Military readiness and preparedness.
Airport security and TSA.
Homeland Security. Border Patrol.
FEMA, FDA, NASA.
(Wait a minute, wasnt NASA killed last year? Heres one thats for sure going to save money: the National Drug Intelligence Center, still slated for a $2 million cut to a $20 million dollar budget. Buy it was closed on 6/15/2012. Why does it need a budget?)
FBI, NRC, the federal prison system, SEC.
Sounds awful, until we notice that these cuts come out of a budget thats already scheduled to increase more than the cuts amount to. And that Republicans have offered to give the President emergency authority to allocate these cuts in ways that are least harmful.
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
Don't get rid of the excess, overpaid teachers....Naw....UNION
It’s Obama’s Armageddon
Process for what he claims are dire automatic cuts was HIS IDEA!
Krauthammer: Sequester “Most Ridiculously Hyped Armageddon Since The Mayan Calendar”
Speaking of those scare tactics, those who are paying attention know it’s all a big lie. Charles Krauthammer isn’t the only talking head who has noticed that Obama’s hype doesn’t match reality:
JONATHAN KARL ABC NEWS: The spending cuts represent only a fraction of total federal spending. With the cuts, the federal government will spend about $15 billion more this year than it spent last year. Their impact won’t be felt right away. The government must give employees 30 days notice before they can force them to take that one unpaid day off. That means you’re really going to see the impact sometime in April.
BILL PLANTE CBS NEWS: People here admit that it could take several months for the public to really feel the pain.
MAJOR GARRETT CBS NEWS: Those terrible things, should they occur, won’t happen rapidly. The public could say, maybe the president cried wolf.
The problem is that so few people will actually be well enough informed on this or any other big Washington issue to know who is lying. They’ll just keep following Obama, the Pied Piper of more and more spending and ever higher taxes right off that “fiscal cliff” he said he would save us from!
Ever notice how the buffoons on Capitol Hill and in the state run “media” never say, the sequester is going to cause us to shut down Capitol Hill and send all of the politicians home?
Why is anyone to be laid off?
1. Fire and police are not federal employees.
2. More will be spent in 2013 than in 2012 - there are no cuts!
By: davenj1 (Diary) | February 25th, Obamas shameful exhibition last week warning against the spending cuts set to automatically go into effect on March 1st is a perfect example of why this president is no leader. Drunk on his reelection, he truly sees himself as the Chosen One, the political messiah who is destined to lead this country by using the bully pulpit.
Trotting out firemen and police officers as stage props has become old news. Want gun control legislation? Invite victims of gun violence to a State of the Union Address. Want universal pre-K in all schools? Fly in some 4-year-old kids from around the country and make sure they are ethnically and economically diverse.
Want your rendition of immigration reform? Hang out with some immigrants surrounding you preferably in a state with a large Hispanic population, but make sure you throw some African, Asian and European immigrants in the crowd as if it is African, Asian and European illegal immigrants crossing the Mexican border.
His use of stage props is disgusting and shameful. Allowing oneself to be a stage prop is just as bad. But that is all this president stands for- polarization and demonization- creating villains where none exist and distorting the truth because he is, well the president.
What I want to know is they never lay off “administrators” and office workers.
‘Cause I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t miss most of them.
Exactly right...it’s a form of extortion...
Here in VA we had a gov not too long ago who extorted the state for higher taxes by closing the DMVs...
He’s now a US Senator...
Will we ever learn?
“Dear Leader has also forgotten (if he ever knew) that first responders, teachers are not paid by the Federal government.”
President Armageddon knows that and he is certain that the sheeple will believe whatever he says.
“According to a Wall Street Journal article, aptly titled, President Armageddon, the author notes that President Obama just whacked the economy with a roughly $160 billion tax increase in 2013 that he says will do no harm, but he wants us to believe that $85 billion in spending cuts will trigger a recession. If the president was willing to work with Congress in 2011, instead of threatening to veto specific cuts proposed by Republicans in lieu of the sequester, this government-manufactured emergency would not be taking place.”
I did hear H Barbor last night on Fox say he is annoyed to hear the Dems are planning to make sure any reductions will be in the highest visability areas. For example, close all the National Parks but don’t get rid any of the dead wood in the bureauracy.
Just saw a picture of 5 nuke carriers in port together at one time. Kind of looks like Battleship Row in Pearl in 41. Probably his excellency decided that would cause a stir so he had them brought in or not deployed on time.
Face it, we have an aggatator as president, a three card monte dealer to boot.
IBD Editorial Debunks LaHood’s ‘Flight Delays’ Lament About Sequestration
By Tom Blumer | February 26, 2013 | 07:15
Doing the kind of reporting the establishment press would be doing if it were something other than the collection of presidential supplicants it has become, an Investor’s Business Daily editorial Monday evening completely refuted outgoing Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood’s claim that a $600 million “cut” (really “a reduction in projected spending”) would hurt the Federal Aviation Administration so badly that flight delays would be an inevitable result. One suspects that similar analyses of other agencies would also reveal that the fears expressed by “President Armageddon” (the Wall Street Journal’s recent nickname for President Obama) have little if any basis in fact — if one bravely assumes that the administration isn’t hell-bent on inflicting the maximum amount of visible pain if sequestration indeed comes to pass.
As I’ve said often, there’s far more of what really amounts to legitimate fact-based reporting (as opposed to White House stenography) in IBD and Wall Street Journal editorials than you’ll find in most of the establishment press’s so-called “straight news reporting” on the same topics. As far as the FAA is concerned, IBD shows that all the agency would have to do is redeploy its existing resources — something which obviously should have been done long ago — and should ultimately privatize the entire operation, as Canada has successfully done (bolds are mine):
Ever notice that they are all in a panic over a 2.3% reduction in the increase of spending while lots of us out here have had to make do with a 50% or more cut in our income?
cry me a river. waaah.
We could lay off diversity co-ordinators for the Forestry Service.
Exactly, they don’t want the taxpayers to realize that they really don’t need a lot of the things their money is confiscated to pay for.
It’s exactly the same reason PBS pulls the “we’re going to kill Big Bird” stunt everytime their funding is threatened. It’s an incredibly stupid idea given the other things that can be cut, but it generates an emotional response against the proposed cuts.
Few things scare people more than the thought of being trapped in a fire and burning to death. So saying that firemen will be laid off will have a much larger impact than saying budget analysts will.
My amateur analysis is that the administration has overplayed it’s hand.
At this point, it’s in the Republican’s best interest to force the sequester to happen. How many people really noticed when the government “shut down” several years back?
If the sequester happens, it isn’t going to alter most people’s lives in the slightest, and that will take all the air out of Obama’s balloon, at least on this issue.
If they truly wanted to trim fat, they'd look to city hall or where ever the hacks live.
They do it to draw attention away from the truth.
It is a subtle threat to us subjects of the Ruling Class to shut up and fork more over or else there will be “consequences.”
I don’t understand what the federal government has to do with paying the salaries of CITY firemen? Why is Obama always up on stage with firemen and saying the cuts will effect them? Doesn’t city and county pay the salaries of firemen?
That carrier picture is complete BS, it’s a once in a generation event cause by the convergence of:
USS Enterprise being retired
USS Theodore Roosevelt being brought back into service after midlife refueling
USS Abraham Lincoln, a Pacific Fleet carrier, being in Norfolk to begin midlife refueling.
Of the other two carriers, USS Bush just returned from a deployment while USS Eisenhower was just about to leave for one (she just left the other day).
But perception equals reality, right?
I agree, he’s painted himself into a corner with this and people will find that his hyperbole was hype and they’ll question him even more.
For that matter, why is he screaming in horror at his own plan while traveling the country promising money to cities.
Obama, creator of the sequester crisis, decries crises created for political gain
By Andrew Malcolm
“Remember now, these aren’t real cuts in current spending. These are cuts in the future increases of current spending. We’ll still be spending more and more and more each year, as we have since Obama took the throne. In fact, he’s been spending more than $1,000,000,000,000 above what the government takes in every single year.”
“But to hear Obama describe the ugly upcoming scenario you’ll probably have to send your kids to school unfed, maybe even naked. See how awful Republicans are?”
government/socialism is the problem
get rid of the EPA, government schools etc.
the only functions of government are military and border control, some local police. what else cannot the free mark do, private roads, private hospitals, private schools etc.
to hell with the oppressive 4 trillion $ per year federal government, and the state and local goveermens too. leave us alone
to hell with these democrat/communist tyrants
My husband is the fire inspector for the city in which we reside. At 10 pm last night, city council decided to lay off five firefighters and close one fire station. My husband has been on the department for 13 years, and in the last 18 months has body bagged more people than he has in the previous years total. Thanks to layoffs or downsizing through attrition, the department is a skeleton crew. It is understandable that belts need tightened and that this concept includes safety forces. What simply amazes me is how city council and all of their support staff/services never have to suck in their guts. Typical politicians.
“What simply amazes me is how city council and all of their support staff/services never have to suck in their guts. Typical politicians.”
I feel for you and your husband who I am sure is a dedicated firefighter.
This is a tactic that local Democrat politicans have used for many years to scare the taxpayers into accepting higher taxes.
The threatened cuts will always be to emergency services first rather than the bloated local government employees who do nothing.
Reality is what one sees or physically feels. Perception is an interpretation or extention. I see five carriers, I perceive them to be in port at the same time, a rare event. Perhaps your explanation of what I see may be correct. Still, it is not B.S., are there or are there not five carriers in port at the same time and is that a rare event or not?
Wel, they’re not going to scare us if they threaten to lay off bureaucrats, IRS employees, or if they threaten to end lavish travel budgets for government officials.
It’s as if a household discovered that the breadwinner’s wages were going to be cut 2% and deciding “well, I guess we’ll have to guit eating for a year”.
SPIN METER: In budget fight, sky is falling again
Feb 26, 2013
“the Washington Monument ploy, also known as the Firemen First principle, is at work.
It goes like this: Put someone’s budget at risk and the first thing you’ll hear is a threat to close a cherished national symbol or lay off firefighters and police, when in fact there are other ways to cut spending.
It so happens the Washington Monument is already closed, for earthquake repair. But Obama indulged in the Firemen First principle quite literally.
He appeared at the White House in front of officers in blue uniforms to warn of the consequences of the sequester. “Emergency responders like the ones who are here today - their ability to help communities respond to and recover from disasters will be degraded.”
The law gives little flexibility to agencies to protect favored programs, except for big ones specifically exempted from the automatic cuts, such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and veterans benefits.”
sequester, fiscal cliff, bp oil “disaster”, global warming hoax
When are the people going to see the lying news media for what they are chicken little ,crying wolf liars , propagandists, democrat/communist political activists?
Ideas are like your kids,no mater how bad they are you still love them.
Bucshon: Obama’s budget scare tactics phony
By Thomas B. Langhorne
Posted February 23, 2013 at 5:07 p.m.
The federal government is fairly bloated, and I think we can find $85 billion in targeted cuts to replace the sequester over the next few months, Bucshon said.
I would venture to say that the deal is worth it, especially when you consider things like the militarization of the police is fueled by federal monies, and things like "Homeland Security" (e.g. TSA) are nothing but a sustained assault (and population-conditioning) on liberties and constitutionally guaranteed rights.
Obama: If Republicans dont give me what I want I will make planes fall from the sky
And soon were likely to hear that global warming will accelerate and comets will strike the Earth if Republicans dont acquiesce to Obamas demands for more taxes. He has hinted that planes will fall from the sky:
Air traffic controllers and airport security will see cutbacks, which means more delays at airports across the country, Obama continued. Thousands of teachers and educators will be laid off. Tens of thousands of parents will have to scramble to find child care for their kids. Hundreds of thousands of Americans will lose access to primary care and preventive care like flu vaccinations and cancer screenings.
How much is to be cut? $85 billion on a budget of $3.6 trillion. Thats 2.4%. As of August household income was down 8.2% under Obama and the country had to make do. Now Obama tries to tell us that government cant do with 2.4% less? Seriously?
He has been lying about the sequester since the debates. The sequester was Obamas teams idea:
For all the tough talk, Obama is afraid. He is afraid that the sequester will come to pass and no one will notice. He is frightened to death that America will learn that the government can do with 2.4% less, because then America will begin to wonder with just how much less government can do.
Puget Sound Naval Shipyard always has four carriers in port. They are the retired USS Ranger, Independence, Kitty Hawk and Constellation.
It regularly has a 5th, when an active carrier is there for between deployment overhaul.
The old Philadelphia Shipyard has three carriers in port. They are the retired USS Forrestal, Saratoga (I think she’s been moved down from Newport by now) and Kennedy.
Of the carriers in that Norfolk picture, only two are active and operational. One is retired (although still in commission due to a legal caveat about not decommissioning a nuclear ship until it has been defueled) and two are not in active service.
So the reality may be that there are five carriers tied up together, but the reality also is that only two are active. The perception that it is due to sequestration is dead wrong.
Obama will be his own down fall,the truth is out and he’s afraid his tax scams will fail.
The rat and his pals will have to make more cuts the compulsive spenders greates fear.
I don’t get it; are you saying my post was BS, or that the sequester itself is BS, or the worry is BS (i.e. you agree that the threatened services are worth the overreaching services)?
Uh, If you have been reading my posts you would see that I believe that the sequester is good and the White House scare tactics are bad. And I do agree with your post.
In regards to your paranoia however understandable in these times and about your post specifically being "BS", I can do nothing more than suggest professional help.....:)
You live in or near Steubenville, correct?
Yes, within the city limits actually. The city has carried out business “the Steubenville way” for far too long. Local officials demanding greased hands for Walmart and other industries that want to move into the area is a thing of the past, especially in a city that has a tiny tax base. A significant portion of our residents live off of various social welfare programs; therefore, we tax payers are stuck paying higher taxes for the same services that they receive for free. For decades the city has pandered to these people, persuading them to vote for levies because they won’t pay for them anyway. To use a progressive term, this particular practice is unsustainable.
Because Hussain and the left likes to hold citizens hostage. Essentially they are saying if we dont get what we want we will gum up your life. No flights, police seizures, no protctions, no safety, bad roads.
The real cuts come at headquarters but headquarters is immune. People watch that and realize, like in leftist Soviet times, the best defence is to become Leftist.
We are in a totalitarin fascist state and most do not know it or dont care.
Life is going to get a lot tougher.
"WASHINGTON The federal government released groups of illegal immigrants from custody across the country Monday at the same time the White House was making its case that impending budget cuts would harm efforts to protect the border and enforce federal immigration laws.
Advocates reported waves of illegal immigrants being released from at least three detention centers in Texas, Florida and Louisiana."
The private sector makes cuts in administration overhead, but in no way would the Obama government do that.
Best Buy today confirmed that it has, as part of its Renew Blue transformation efforts, eliminated approximately $150 million in SG&A (administrative expenses), including an approximate 400-person reduction in employee head count in its headquarters.
Govt Office Warns Sequester Will Hurt Agency That Doesnt Exist Anymore
Feb. 26, 2013 10:35am Becket Adams
Of all the horrors the March 1 sequester will inflict on our nation, perhaps the most terrifying are the cuts it will force on the National Drug Intelligence Center, a non-existent government program.
Yeah, let us explain.
Why does Hussein hate firemen?