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Will Maid be paid Reward for Dorner Information?
Gun Watch ^ | 13 February, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 02/13/2013 6:10:38 AM PST by marktwain

A million dollar reward was offered by the LAPD for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Christopher Dorner. This story was published in the LA Times on 10 February, 2013.

The maid that surprised Dorner and told the police where he had been hiding was instrumental in ending the manhunt.

However, the report said that the reward would be for information leading to the "arrest and conviction" of Dorner. It was always highly doubtful that Dorner would ever be convicted, because it was highly doubtful that Dorner would ever be captured alive. Will the unnamed maid who escaped from Dorner's bonds and whose information lead to the end of the manhunt, receive the offered reward? Dorner will never be convicted now.

Link to reward story.

Link to story of maids and Dorner's flight

Dean Weingarten

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; dorner; lapd; reward
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I am curious as to whether the maid will get the reward, or not. The initial terms of the offer seem to require "arrest and conviction". Obtaining both of those always seemed unlikely.
1 posted on 02/13/2013 6:10:48 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Way back they'd do these things on a 'dead or alive' basis ~ but i think there's a couple of laws out there about posting rewards for dead bodies! Somebody probably thought that encouraged killing.

Could be it means nothing at all ~ else why would people even try to help catch perps if they can't get the reward or simple capture, or death of the perp.

2 posted on 02/13/2013 6:14:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: marktwain

Of course she won’t.

Was anyone arrested? Was anyone convicted?

There is a reason these are worded the way they are.


3 posted on 02/13/2013 6:17:27 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: marktwain
It was always highly doubtful that Dorner would ever be convicted...

because the cops were going to shoot on site... or as it turned out... "burn the M***f*****"

4 posted on 02/13/2013 6:18:07 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: muawiyah
"but i think there's a couple of laws out there about posting rewards for dead bodies"

What ever happened to those guys who posted a "dead or alive" on George Zimmerman's head?
5 posted on 02/13/2013 6:18:07 AM PST by NewCenturions
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To: marktwain
It's the LAPD.
Will Los Angeles renege on the reward?
Of course they will. They had no intention of paying.
6 posted on 02/13/2013 6:20:31 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Your only guarantee of Free Speech is the Gun in your hand.)
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To: muawiyah

The earlier reports I read stated “arrest and apprehension”. I thought that wording to be a little strange at the time I read it. If that was his burned corpse, I guess one could argue that he has been both arrested abd apprehended.


7 posted on 02/13/2013 6:21:29 AM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: marktwain

The maid will likely not get one red penny. Police are notoriously stingy about adhering to the letter of the offer. Though they offered an “arrest and conviction” reward, they never had any intention at all of arresting.

Were they to arrest, he would get his day in court, and he would spend it upending many of the LAPDs rackets, naming names, etc.

The immediate concern is all the wackos out there who will now try to copycat him by offing a cop.


8 posted on 02/13/2013 6:21:43 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: marktwain

Since she is a maid, the LAPD will leave her a tip.


9 posted on 02/13/2013 6:23:45 AM PST by dartuser (My firearm is not illegal ... its undocumented.)
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To: NewCenturions

They got busted. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/03/27/new-black-panther-party-leader-arrested-on-charges-of-gun-possession/ That was back when that crowd thought of him as Jewish ~ and although that error in their analysis has been corrected (he’s probably as black as any of them) this arrest seems to have eliminated the main body of this fringe fringe group.


10 posted on 02/13/2013 6:25:14 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: marktwain

If she doesn’t get the reward, would anybody at all in the future ever respond to any such offers? Why would anybody take any risks at all when the wording is ambiguous, and possibly intended to make collection of the reward unlikely or impossible?


11 posted on 02/13/2013 6:39:27 AM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
The maid will likely not get one red penny. Police are notoriously stingy about adhering to the letter of the offer.

That's what I've read many times. Crimestoppers may pay the little rewards, but I don't recall a big reward ever being paid.

12 posted on 02/13/2013 6:43:04 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: marktwain

Nope. She won’t get a cent. I’m sure the Police are chalking this up to their own great police work.


13 posted on 02/13/2013 6:44:45 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
-- The immediate concern is all the wackos out there who will now try to copycat him by offing a cop. --

Really? I figure there is some number of outsiders (non-cops) who will attempt to murder cops, for the same various reasons that have persisted for centuries. Wronged by the law, gang initiation, escape arrest, cop boinking wife/husband, and so on. And, much fewer in number, there is always a chance that an insider (a cop) will turn violent on his peers.

IOW, Dorner didn't create any new wackos, or any new reason for a wacko to attempt murder. He had his issue, and now he's dead. His issue died with him.

14 posted on 02/13/2013 6:48:32 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: GeronL

I have a guy on another thread calling me stupid for believing the LAPD was never going to bring this Dorner guy in alive...that it’s been their intent from the beginning to simply assassinate him, no matter the circumstances.

Here we had a situation where they could have laid siege and starved him out, and they “Waco’ed” him instead. Funny, I don’t feel very stupid today.


15 posted on 02/13/2013 6:49:21 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: adorno
-- If she doesn't get the reward, would anybody at all in the future ever respond to any such offers? --

Yes. There is a near infinite supply of stupidity and naivete.

Plenty of people will help the system, because they find it the morally correct thing to do, or they are afraid and think the system will provide some protection.

16 posted on 02/13/2013 6:51:29 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: marktwain
The initial terms of the offer seem to require "arrest and conviction". Obtaining both of those always seemed unlikely.

Typical weasel words!!!

If they don't pay her the reward the LAPD will have a larger PR problem.

17 posted on 02/13/2013 6:53:33 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Cyber Liberty

Yep. They shot up that truck delivering papers, which was no threat to anyone, without any warning.

Assassination was clearly the intent.


18 posted on 02/13/2013 6:59:05 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Dorner HAD to be permanently silenced lest he reveal factual information about the police corruption.

Only a naive idiot expected he would be arrested and a public trial held.

Now we will never know .


19 posted on 02/13/2013 7:04:11 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: marktwain
The choice of not apprehending Dorner was not her fault.
She did the right thing and should receive the reward.
20 posted on 02/13/2013 7:06:13 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Uncle Chip; marktwain
My initial report to the FBI, Inspection Service, DOD, and finally, once they created it, HD, had information in it that would have led them directly to Bruce Edwin Ivins wife, then to him, and then to the various vials and such in time to find out who did the Anthrax Attack.

That they got there eventually, 7 years later, but too late, shouldn't work against my receipt of the rewards, but nobody has paid up yet.

21 posted on 02/13/2013 7:10:00 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: marktwain

Should be split between the maid and the guy with the Dodge truck.


22 posted on 02/13/2013 7:11:37 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: muawiyah
My initial report to the FBI, Inspection Service, DOD, and finally, once they created it, HD, had information in it that would have led them directly to Bruce Edwin Ivins wife, then to him, and then to the various vials and such in time to find out who did the Anthrax Attack.

Evidence of his involvement is less than overwhelming.

23 posted on 02/13/2013 7:32:24 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Cboldt

People might respond, and many will help the system, because, to them, it’s the right thing to do.

However, people won’t be proactively assisting, and the assistance which will be offered, is the incidental kind, like when somebody happens upon the criminal or sees some wrongdoing occurring right in front of them. But, taking the extra step won’t be happening if rewards are just ruses to get the extra help the police departments need.


24 posted on 02/13/2013 7:43:09 AM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: Cboldt

Yes. There is a near infinite supply of stupidity and naivete.

Plenty of people will help the system, because they find it the morally correct thing to do....

***
You view doing something one views as morally correct an act of stupidity or naïveté?


25 posted on 02/13/2013 7:44:50 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Sherman Logan
At the same time evidence of anthrax in the attack is overwhelming, and the FORMAT used in the addresses on the envelopes involved a non-standard peculiarity found in the format used for mailing addresses.

A very limited circulation periodical subscribed to by Ivins wife contained an article on mailing to the two senators and the newscaster using addresses in exactly that format.

Do not confound evidence implicating that laboratory, and that source of address information, with IVINS himself.

Quite frankly I think this was an amateurish attempt to frame IVINS carried out by one of the attackers' sympathizers who worked in the same laboratory with IVINS. He not only stole anthrax he stole that publication.

The envelopes were mailed in Boca Raton ~ mishandled due to their placement after hours in a specific sized mail tray used in a post office mail collection boxes. That tray was then sent to the mail equipment distribution site in Eastern Pennsylvania, and in turn sent over to a customer site served by the Franklin township facility ~ where they were all finally postmarked.

By ignorning my very detailed information regarding mail flow on the East Coast the FBI BLEW THE CASE and arrived 7 years to late to the proximity of the theft of some of the anthrax used in the attack.

26 posted on 02/13/2013 7:47:02 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Bigg Red
-- You view doing something one views as morally correct an act of stupidity or naivete? --

No. The stupidity and naivete I was referring to was the expectation that a promise of reward would be honored.

27 posted on 02/13/2013 7:48:11 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: GeronL

Now I’m being told, by someone who’s never met me, that I’ve hated cops all my life. There are some truly entertaining characters about these days....

I wonder what else I can goad him into saying?


28 posted on 02/13/2013 7:49:12 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: marktwain

Wasn’t Osama Dead Hidin’ wanted dead or alive, with a bounty of $25,000,000? Did the “shooter” get a dime of that? Nope; but the entire SEAL team should have, and split it evenly.


29 posted on 02/13/2013 7:52:16 AM PST by ro_dreaming (G.K. Chesterton, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It’s been found hard and lef)
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To: adorno
-- But, taking the extra step won't be happening if rewards are just ruses to get the extra help the police departments need. --

For reward-driven "snitches," the decision to "snitch" or not doesn't turn on whether the promise of reward is in fact sincere. It turns on whether or not "the snitch" believes the offer is genuine.

I don't think the presence of a reward drove the lady who contacted the cops about Dorner. She'd have called the cops, reward or no reward.

30 posted on 02/13/2013 7:52:25 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: MaxMax

She should receive the reward, but I’d bet a week’s pay she’ll get screwed out of it by LAPD. Now we know why they were so sure about “putting up” a million bucks: They had no intention of taking him alive in order to get a conviction.


31 posted on 02/13/2013 7:54:24 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: MaxMax

Most likely she will get a reward.


32 posted on 02/13/2013 7:59:06 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

lol


33 posted on 02/13/2013 7:59:22 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: marktwain

If the real reward is not paid by the PD, then every officer on the force should send 7 days pay to the maid. Seems a small price for helping them zero in on the guy who was HIDING WITHIN 8 MILES (verified?) OF THE PRESS CONFERENCES!!!!


34 posted on 02/13/2013 8:09:39 AM PST by petro45acp (No good endeavour survives an excess of adult supervision)
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To: Cboldt
She'd have called the cops, reward or no reward.

100% true. I would have, too. As far as she knew, he was a triple-murderer (she likely did not know about the fourth).

35 posted on 02/13/2013 8:13:54 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cboldt
I don't think the presence of a reward drove the lady who contacted the cops about Dorner. She'd have called the cops, reward or no reward.

That's true -- but I'll bet she's lawyering up as we post.

36 posted on 02/13/2013 8:26:40 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: marktwain

So far they’ve bought a new truck for the ladies, Likely a new cabin for someone.

Maybe they can hold a bake sale to raise the reward money or just hope that people forget about it. They have an out I suppose.


37 posted on 02/13/2013 8:29:53 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Cyber Liberty
-- As far as she knew, he was a triple-murderer (she likely did not know about the fourth). --

Dorner put her through a bad experience. Whatever else she had in mind, revenge / remedy was part of the calculus.

I operate on the principle that no good deed goes unpunished ;-)

38 posted on 02/13/2013 8:30:47 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
I operate on the principle that no good deed goes unpunished ;-)

True dat. But it won't stop me from doing a good deed when called upon. ;^)

39 posted on 02/13/2013 8:37:51 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Biggirl
Most likely she will get a reward.

She'll get a warm, happy feeling in her heart that her captor for several days died horribly and is gone. But she's not going to get an cash from LAPD.

40 posted on 02/13/2013 8:44:20 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

And the reason I might ask?


41 posted on 02/13/2013 8:48:14 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Uncle Chip

She did the right thing by calling.


42 posted on 02/13/2013 8:49:15 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: marktwain

No “Dead or Alive” offer, eh?


43 posted on 02/13/2013 8:52:47 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Biggirl
She did the right thing by calling.

911 or her lawyer or both???

44 posted on 02/13/2013 8:58:24 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: dartuser

Ok since she is a maid, does anyone know who this maid is? Is she an illegal? ooops I mean “Undocumented”?


45 posted on 02/13/2013 9:02:07 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: Biggirl
Uh....from the article:

A million dollar reward was offered by the LAPD for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Christopher Dorner. This story was published in the LA Times on 10 February, 2013.

(snip)

However, the report said that the reward would be for information leading to the "arrest and conviction" of Dorner. It was always highly doubtful that Dorner would ever be convicted, because it was highly doubtful that Dorner would ever be captured alive. ... Dorner will never be convicted now.

That's why she won't see a penny from the LAPD reward. No conviction = no reward. And I hope you didn't think that wasn't the LAPD plan all along.

46 posted on 02/13/2013 9:13:50 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cboldt

The very essence of copycats is that they are scatterbrained and spontaneous. The word copycat is assigned to them by the media after the fact. In real terms, they see some cop standing there, so they walk up behind him and shoot him in the head.

When asked why, after the fact, they just give a 50/50 of “wasn’t me” and “I donno.” They are too stupid to anticipate.


47 posted on 02/13/2013 10:10:02 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: hoosierham

“Dorner HAD to be permanently silenced lest he reveal factual information about the police corruption.

Only a naive idiot expected he would be arrested and a public trial held.

Now we will never know”

Anybody remember the Clint Eastwood movie “the Gauntlet?”


48 posted on 02/13/2013 10:35:51 AM PST by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: Cboldt

The lady who called the cops, did so because she herself became a victim or Dorner’s rampage.

But, how do you know that, many others wouldn’t find motivation from an very handsome reward? There are people who will make calls to the police because of the slightest chance of collecting a reward. Without a reward, there will still be people doing their civic duties, but, the chances of success in stopping some criminal, are enhanced by the reward system.


49 posted on 02/13/2013 12:39:29 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: Uncle Chip
I'll bet she's lawyering up as we post.

I'll bet she won't have to solicit any lawyers. They'll be calling her, smelling a big payday from the case.
50 posted on 02/13/2013 12:43:03 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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