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The Misleading Murderer that you Know
Gun Watch ^ | 5 February, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 02/04/2013 2:17:18 PM PST by marktwain

The most accurate crime statistics are on murders. When proponents of infringements on the Second Amendment talk about murders, they often claim that murders by strangers are only a small percentage of the total, often about one quarter. This statistic is misleading, because it implies that people that you are close to are the most likely to murder you.

The largest category of victim to murderer is unknown. That is 44 percent of the murders reported to the FBI. The next largest category is acquaintance. It is 21 percent of murderers. The misleading part is that all people who you know, no matter how slightly, that are not close to you, are put in this category. Thus, the gang banger that was in your remedial English class, the people in your exercise class, the laborer who cleaned up the neighbor's back yard, the drug dealer that you told the police about, are all non-strangers, as are all of a gang members gang, criminals that other criminals knew in prison, and drug dealers customers and competitors. The third largest category are strangers, at 12.4 percent. 12.4 percent of the total murderers are 22 percent of the murders where the victim/murderer relationship is known, so that is where the "only one fourth of murderers are strangers" comes from. Add the top three categories, unknown, acquaintances, and strangers, and you have 77.5 percent of murderers who are not in the "close to you" categories.

It may be that some of the unknowns are people that were close to the victim, but have escaped prosecution. Some may be simply sloppy reporting. But to imply that they are in the same proportions as the known relationships is misleading, as is lumping in immediate family with acquaintances.

The other side of this misleading statistic is that violent, bad people have family and friends as well. Divorced women have angry exes. Many families have their black sheep. Some children develop drug habits and victimize their parents. All of those fit in the category where the murderer was in the immediate family.

The next time that someone tells you that most people are murdered by family and friends, so a gun in the house is more danger than deterrent, tell them that less than one eight of murderers are immediate family members, and that unknown, strangers, and acquantances make up more than 75% of murderers.

FBI Murder Relationship Data 2010 Link

Dean Weingarten


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1 posted on 02/04/2013 2:17:22 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Information=Ammunition... All good!


2 posted on 02/04/2013 2:24:09 PM PST by JDoutrider
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3 posted on 02/04/2013 2:57:07 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Violent Victimization Committed by Strangers report released 1 wk. before Sandy Hook

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvcs9310.pdf


4 posted on 02/04/2013 3:02:02 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: marktwain
Some interesting stats from a 2006 Bureau of Justice Statistics report:
* Thirty-six percent of violent felons had an active criminal justice status at the time of their arrest. This included 18% on probation, 12% on release pending disposition of a prior case, and 7% on parole.

* Seventy percent of violent felons had a prior arrest record, and 57% had at least one prior arrest for a felony. Sixty-seven percent of murderers and 73% of those convicted of robbery or assault had an arrest record.

* A majority (56%) of violent felons had a prior conviction record. Thirty-eight percent had a prior felony conviction and 15% had a previous conviction for a violent felony.

Convicted violent felons are among the most serious offenders in the criminal justice system. They are convicted of violent offenses, such as murder, rape, robbery, and assault, and given the most severe sanctions. A BJS analysis of felony convictions in the 75 most populous counties found that a majority of those committing violent felonies had–-

* multiple prior arrests

* at least 1 prior felony arrest

* at least 1 prior conviction.

The most politically-incorrect item in the report: "Blacks (46%) comprised a higher percentage of murderers than Hispanics (27%) or whites (23%)".

Now, of the people you know, how many have prior convictions (or even arrests) for violent felonies? The homicide epidemic is not coming from middle-class suburbia. It is coming from the criminal underclass. But FReepers already know that.

5 posted on 02/04/2013 3:36:10 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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Remove the African American and Hispanic murder rates from the US, and the resulting murder rate falls right in the middle of European murder rates.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/01/european-murder-rates-compared-to.html


6 posted on 02/04/2013 4:06:02 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

Someone should tell them about the misspellings in that chart.


7 posted on 02/04/2013 4:47:23 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: marktwain
Remove the African American and Hispanic murder rates from the US, and the resulting murder rate falls right in the middle of European murder rates.

Right. The US European-American component of the murder rate is about the same as the Western European murder rate (and much lower than the Eastern European murder rate).

From this we can see that the availability of guns is not the dominant factor of the murder rate -- culture and genetics are (however politically-incorrect it is to mention that).

8 posted on 02/05/2013 4:19:32 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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