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Joe McCarthy was right all along
Dispatch International ^ | 01/24/2013 | Diana West

Posted on 01/26/2013 2:52:13 PM PST by Olog-hai

Most Europeans are unlikely to be familiar with the facts behind the American term “McCarthyism.” They probably know it describes something very bad in American politics—the “Communist witch hunts” of more than half a century ago. They may also know that simply uttering the term, like casting a spell, stops all debate cold by associating someone with the eponymous Joseph McCarthy. As the story goes, he was himself very bad. After all, he conducted those long ago “Communist witch hunts,” ruining his name in perpetuity. This probably exhausts general knowledge.

But here’s a secret: Most Americans know little more than this same familiar but completely false narrative. In recent years, stunning revelations from archives in Washington and Moscow have confirmed that McCarthy’s investigations—and those conducted by other officials before and after—netted not innocent and imaginary “witches,” but secret cadres of hardened Communist agents determined to bring down the American republic. Surely, this makes Joe McCarthy a great patriot and deserving “the plaudits of a grateful nation.” …

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TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: communism; joemccarthy; leftistagenda; tailgunnerjoe
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Didn’t see this posted here. Also posted on RSN website. The infiltrators in FDR’s government and the things they did (helping turn China communist) bear more than some passing scrutiny.
1 posted on 01/26/2013 2:52:14 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Related reading assignments:

Blacklisted by History
Witness
The Forgotten 500

Joe McCarthy was a great man but was targeted by the commies from the get-go. Surprisingly to many, he was the Godfather of Robert Kennedy’s daughter Kathleen Kennedy (Townsend). Robert and John were friends and admirers of Joe...that was back when even some democrats disliked communists.


2 posted on 01/26/2013 2:58:47 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Olog-hai

I believe that this was covered in great detail by Ann Coulter


3 posted on 01/26/2013 3:00:26 PM PST by brivette
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To: Olog-hai

That is one thing William F. Buckley should be praised for. He defended McCarthy when very few would.


4 posted on 01/26/2013 3:01:04 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Olog-hai
And America is saturated with these communists bastar# now. Washington DC is now their controlling empire with King Obama at it's head. We need a McCarthy now more than ever in the past.
5 posted on 01/26/2013 3:02:55 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Olog-hai
Yep, McCarthy was right and now we have a commie in the WH.

But 0bama isn't a Marxist. /s

6 posted on 01/26/2013 3:03:34 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Olog-hai

Joe “Tailgunner Joe” McCarthy was a proven liar claiming to have been a combat veteran, making it an early case of stolen honor. Lyndon Baines Johnson later regreted accepting the award of a decoration that was not actually earned in WWII. Yet, Joe McCarthy was regarded by Robert kennedy as a good friend, and Kennedy attended McCarthy’s funeral.

It has been speculated due to these and a number of other factors that Joe McCarthy may have served as an agent provocateur specifically to create a public backlash against investigations against Communists and thereby shield against further actions being taken against Communists. If so, the ploy was highly successful to the point where no inquiries against Communism and its conspiracies to overthrow Constitutional government are allowed.


7 posted on 01/26/2013 3:03:55 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: All
McCarthy was vindicated by the Venona Project.
8 posted on 01/26/2013 3:07:51 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Olog-hai

Boy we really need Joe McCathy now more than ever!


9 posted on 01/26/2013 3:09:55 PM PST by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: WhiskeyX

You haven’t read “Blacklisted by History”, have you?


10 posted on 01/26/2013 3:10:52 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

Blacklisted by History

- incredible book. I was amazed at how much of the common understanding of McCarthy was complete BS.


11 posted on 01/26/2013 3:11:46 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Olog-hai

Too bad we don’t have a Joe McCarthy today !


12 posted on 01/26/2013 3:11:50 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: gorush

I never doubted old Joe. Not the VP!


13 posted on 01/26/2013 3:14:25 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Olog-hai

Evans’ Law of Inadequate Paranoia: “No matter how bad you think something is,” he says, “when you look into it, it’s always worse.”

I’ll have to remember that!


14 posted on 01/26/2013 3:20:12 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: WhiskeyX
"...and thereby shield against further actions being taken against Communists."

Interesting point because all McCarthy did was parrot HUAC (Which would have been harder to ridicule and debase the truth).
15 posted on 01/26/2013 3:27:00 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: gorush

Blacklisted by History and Witness are two of my favorite books.

Spot on...see my freep page...


16 posted on 01/26/2013 3:28:15 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: CORedneck
Too bad we don’t have a Joe McCarthy today!

I'll repeat the gist of what I posted here a few months ago and later was told that it appeared on some leftist websites.

Here are a few terms meant as to derisive that, anymore, I consider to be badges of honor:

Uncharacteristically for me, since I considered him a servant of Satan, I'll quote from Franklin Diablo Roosevelt (the worst president of my lifetime, paving the way for the likes of Obama) and use FDR's words against him: They are unanimous in their hate for me and I welcome their hatred. Liberals have so fouled political discourse that their words of enmity I now embrace.
17 posted on 01/26/2013 3:30:01 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Don’t make the mistake I made for much of my life, and many people like you are still making: accepting the liberal/media slander of Joseph McCarthy.


18 posted on 01/26/2013 3:30:21 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: Olog-hai
Joe McCarthy was the best Senator we ever had from Wisconsin After Him most of them were really Communists.
19 posted on 01/26/2013 3:33:08 PM PST by Pardeeville Liberator
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To: rollo tomasi

HUAC is the sound a liberal makes while clearing his/her throat.

It was the House Committee On Un-American Activities. NOT the House(’s) Un-American Activities Committee (which was the liberal’s taunting way to say that the House was engaging in Un-American activities).


20 posted on 01/26/2013 3:34:58 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: TigersEye
McCarthy was vindicated by the Venona Project.

Bump worthy

21 posted on 01/26/2013 3:36:30 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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To: rlmorel

The writing of “The Forgotten 500” doesn’t rise to the level of those two books but it exposes the communist infiltration of our State Department from before WWII to today. Our State Department was responsible for Tito’s rise to power and the execution of Mihilovich, a truly great man.


22 posted on 01/26/2013 3:40:02 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

It is a black mark on us, no doubt.


23 posted on 01/26/2013 3:41:24 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: Olog-hai

The McClure Hotel in Wheeling, WV, where McCarthy first gained national fame in 1950 by delivering a speech on Soviet penetration of the State Department, is still there. However, a modern building has replaced the one in which McCarthy spoke.


24 posted on 01/26/2013 4:01:18 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Olog-hai

Hollywood was in fear of him. Back then most of Hollywood leaned towards Socialism/Communism. Too bad he really did not dig them out completely.


25 posted on 01/26/2013 4:02:48 PM PST by YukonGreen
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To: YukonGreen

McCarthy was chairman of the Senate Committee on Government Operations as well as its Subcommittee on Investigations from 1953 to 1955. They never investigated Hollywood. That was done by HUAC.


26 posted on 01/26/2013 4:06:30 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: YukonGreen

“Back then” understates the continuum that continues to this day, of course. There were still a small number that weren’t communists, like today.


27 posted on 01/26/2013 4:07:13 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

After Mccarthy, the word “Communist” became taboo. It was never mentioned again. The communists loved that, cuz it let them go underground, call themselves progressives or democrats, and go on trying to turn the USA into a communist paradise.


28 posted on 01/26/2013 4:07:16 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: a fool in paradise
Get a grip, the acronym was either referred to HUAC or HUAAC during its day.
29 posted on 01/26/2013 4:08:25 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: I want the USA back

Tail gunner Joe. Badge of honor if someone were to call me or compare me to Joe. He was more right than we’ll ever know.

Molon labe.


30 posted on 01/26/2013 4:31:59 PM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: Olog-hai
Yuri Besmenov was right, too.
31 posted on 01/26/2013 4:35:45 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Olog-hai; Tailgunner Joe

Yes!!!


32 posted on 01/26/2013 4:40:46 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: TigersEye

Where is our Joe Mcarthy?????? we need to root out these bastards now


33 posted on 01/26/2013 5:02:25 PM PST by ronnie raygun ( Lexington / Concord, America's first gun grab attempt)
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To: gorush

You are wrong. Perhaps you missed the part about the proposition being speculation. The speculation arose when Truman raised the question, and subsequent events resulted in more productive investigations of Communists within the government and business were forced to end when McCarthy’s demogoguery provoked even the anti-communists to to revile McCarthy’s methods. So, regardless of whether McCarthy was genuinely serving the anti-communist resistance or a Communist agent provoking an end to all investigations of Communists, including those not involving McCarthy, the end result was the ability of Communists to operate with near impunity due to public sympathy against demogoguery.

In McCarthy’s defense, the Kennedy family was supposedly anti-communist Catholics, which is why they were friends with McCarthy. If so, then it has to be wondered how and why Ted Kennedy did so much to help the communists.

Yes, the Communists left no stone unturned, it would seem, to defame and discredit mcCarthy. It also must be observed how McCarthy did himself and anti-communist resistance no favors with his alcoholism, fraud, stolen valor, and true demogoguery. He was correct in identifying many Communists. Nonetheless, the question must be asked, did McCarthy do more harm than good, and why?

If McCarthy was truly anti-communist, then why was he corrupt, and why did he harm the anti-communist investigations with his demogoguery? Was he just being rude, crude, and self-destructive because he was oblivious to the consequences of his actions?

If McCarthy was a Communist agent attempting to derail the anti-communist investigations in Congress, then why was he outing so many Communists, or were they expendable in the eyes of the Soviets so long as the operation terminated further investigations of Communists?

The Soviets pride themselves as being master chess players adept at plotting their moves far ahead in the game. Was McCarthy a witting or an unwitting pawn in the Soviet game? Assuming McCarthy was indeed attempting to work against the Communists, the possibility that someone can smear and subvert anti-communist investigations and activism by causing it to be in ill repute must not be ignored. Such a tactic is a routine part of the Communist arsenal.


34 posted on 01/26/2013 5:11:29 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Olog-hai; All

McCarthy wasn’t wrong - he was just early.


35 posted on 01/26/2013 5:24:05 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: rlmorel

You’ve got it completely backwards. I’ve never blindly accepted the media reports, including when they happen to say good or bad things about people such as Joe McCarthy. The facts are that Joe mcCarthy served in the pacific with a Marine Corps air unit in WWII. Unfortunateely he engaged in some stolen valor by falsifying intelligence reports and other documents for the purpose of obtaining decorations he had not earned. In other words, McCarthy engaged in some highly dishonorable lies and deceit at the expense of his fellow combat veterans.

Did McCarthy’s opponents then and today slander and defame McCarthy in largely successful efforts to discredit McCarthy and all anticommunist criticisms? Yes, of course they did so, and they are still doing so today.

Are you going to argue that wee must overlook MCarthy’s despicable lies and dishonor because he attacked the Communists, or do you suppose his legacy is perhaps a good warning that his conduct regardless of true motives was unacceptable and counter-productive to effectively opposing a Communist overthrow of the American constitutional republics?


36 posted on 01/26/2013 5:27:15 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Go back to DU.


37 posted on 01/26/2013 5:32:29 PM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: Olog-hai
Joe McCarthy was right all along

???

Of course he was. ...Why else would the Demcorats demonize him for the past 50 years?

38 posted on 01/26/2013 5:36:25 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: gorush
Robert and John were friends and admirers of Joe...that was back when even some democrats disliked communists.

Wasn't Robert Kennedy one of Roy Cohn's lawyers?

39 posted on 01/26/2013 5:43:24 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RetiredArmy

That’s a poor excuse for a smear and insult.

Look at how McCarthy obtained his Distinguishedd Flying Cross. Then tell me how that event is different than what John Kerry did.


40 posted on 01/26/2013 5:43:39 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Olog-hai

Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin BTTT!

He was a saint in my house.


41 posted on 01/26/2013 6:00:31 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Logical me

AND another Edgar J Hoover!!!!!

Hoover would have never let the Hildebeast throw the FBI under the bus..ha!


42 posted on 01/26/2013 6:04:39 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: TigersEye

Absolutely indicated by the Verona Project!

The Communist media, Communist Hollywood, Communist journ0lists, Communist historians got busy smearing him straight away, and he was right, ALL ALONG!

He remains right, to this very day!


43 posted on 01/26/2013 6:04:53 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: TigersEye

Vindicated. OOOPs


44 posted on 01/26/2013 6:06:00 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Olog-hai

“After all, he conducted those long ago “Communist witch hunts,” ruining his name in perpetuity.”

He did not ruin his name in perpetuity in my eyes. I have always held him and his name in very high esteem.


45 posted on 01/26/2013 6:09:14 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: onyx

Evil follows in the footsteps of sinners regaled as saints. Witness the sinners of the Church hiding the sins of pedophilia while extolling the saints.


46 posted on 01/26/2013 6:12:26 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

McCarthy correctly exposed Communists. He also engaged in stolen valor by lying about his military service. He lied. Do true conservatives lie, cheat, or steal? Do true conservatives excuse the perpetration of evil just so long as it serves their own political interests, or do conservatives recognize good and evil deeds whether or not it impacts their political interests?

West Point Cadet Honor Code: “A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”


47 posted on 01/26/2013 6:22:01 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Olog-hai

Watched the hearings on TV, he was always 100% right!


48 posted on 01/26/2013 6:23:15 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Fiji Hill

“They never investigated Hollywood. That was done by HUAC.”

Colter in “Demonic” relates that the NYT crossword had clue “McCarthy’s Committee.” with the four-letter answer HUAC.

When the error was pointed out, NYT responded (effectively) “so what — same thing”


49 posted on 01/26/2013 6:23:26 PM PST by Peet (TurboTax: "So simple even a Secretary of the Treasury can run it!")
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To: WhiskeyX

I have no idea if he was a liar or not.

Just what did he claim to have done that he didn’t do?


50 posted on 01/26/2013 6:30:00 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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