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Philadelphia fifth-grader searched, threatened, called a murderer over paper gun
The Examiner ^ | January 24, 2013 | Joe Newby

Posted on 01/24/2013 2:54:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Melody Valentin, a fifth-grader in Philadelphia, Penn., was reportedly searched in front of her class and called a murderer for having a piece of paper that looked like a gun, The Blaze reported Thursday.

According to Dianna Kelly, the girl's mother, her grandfather made the "gun" for her the previous day using a folded piece of paper with a corner torn out of it.

When the girl went to throw the piece of paper away, a boy in her class saw it and called school administrators.

"He yelled at me and said I shouldn't have brought the gun to school and I kept telling him it was a paper gun but he wouldn't listen," she said.

Kelly said the school staff searched her in the presence of her classmates and Valentin said she was scolded in front of the class.

The Blaze reported that the school administrator allegedly threatened to have her arrested, while other students called her a “murderer.”

Kelly, who is furious about the incident, has kept her daughter out of the class to avoid further harassment and says she wants her daughter out of the school permanently.

“Why did he threaten my daughter?" she asked. "Why did you stand over my daughter and tell her that you should call the cops on her? ‘You can be arrested?’ Why were you trying to scare her?”

Calls to the school district were not returned...

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; fascism; guncontrol; papergun; pennsylvania; philadelphia; secondamendment
We used to take a rifle or shotgun to school to go hunting on the way home.
1 posted on 01/24/2013 2:54:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We get more like Nazi Germany every day, with fellow classmates pimping on their friends.


2 posted on 01/24/2013 2:59:16 PM PST by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I earned a swat from the shop teacher for NOT having my pocket knife on me. When I got home, my sister narced on me, and I got swats from dad, and an admonition to keep my knife with me.

/johnny

3 posted on 01/24/2013 2:59:34 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For once in my life, I’d like to be a lawyer.

A mean, nasty, brilliant lawyer.

So that I could take every penny from the Superintendent, principal, and teachers involved in this travesty.

I want to see them in ragged clothes, hanging around the town square in the cold, begging for drugs.


4 posted on 01/24/2013 3:00:32 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Venturer
From the article: "When the girl went to throw the piece of paper away, a boy in her class saw it and called school administrators."

Sounds like this young fella would fit right into the Hitle- Jungend.

5 posted on 01/24/2013 3:05:54 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

so you were the reported ‘guy in camo in the woods’ !

screen actor’s guild member,too ? /sarc


6 posted on 01/24/2013 3:07:22 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yet, people continue to believe THEIR school/teacher/etc. can do no harm.

More evidence to keep one’s brood out of the gov’t indoctrination centers known as ‘schools’

I’m ticked off as it is Gov. Scott, here in FL, is giving the teachers union a nice raise....no matter nobody ELSE is making any extra scratch, let alone HAVE jobs; and the unions are still upset about SOMETHING or the other. *spit*


7 posted on 01/24/2013 3:07:54 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just another illustration of how far this idiocy and paranoia has gone. I used to, like you, have shotguns in my trunk so I could go hunting after school. This country has gone absolutely nuts!
I think this is another result of 24 hour news stations. They generate topics and feed the engine of intensity until people become absolutely insane.The media has succeeded in removing comon sense from people and allowing them to reach their own conclusins through everyday conversation and debate. We have become a nation of lemmings !


8 posted on 01/24/2013 3:08:29 PM PST by johnd201 (johnd201)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Indoctrination is working well. It conditions them to be good little socialists.

When they become adults they bow to their masters and beg for the crumbs they give them. In other words, future democrat voters.


9 posted on 01/24/2013 3:10:02 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Child abuse is subjecting your kids to nimrods with teaching degrees. Give them free access to your beloved offspring for 12 straight years and what do you think you are going to get?

Get your kids out of public school. Maybe someday we’ll reform them and rebuild them but your kids and grandkids only have now.


10 posted on 01/24/2013 3:16:45 PM PST by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I used to take shooting lessons at school when I was in junior high. They had an indoor shooting range set up for high school ROTC but the shooting lessons were for everyone.

They were nice match rifles.

And like you, my dad carried his gun to school (kept it in the cloak room) so he could hunt before and after class.


11 posted on 01/24/2013 3:20:50 PM PST by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same here. When I was in high school back in the woods of Missouri, we were allowed to have our deer hunting rifles in our trucks, as long as they were visible (gun rack in window, on dash), the chamber locked open, and truck locked. The school had a bus driver, who double security guard during sporting events, watch the parking lot during deer season.


12 posted on 01/24/2013 3:22:08 PM PST by OzarkSailor
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To: Venturer; Menehune56; unixfox
Fuhrer, We Belong to you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ke8_bhZW4

Skip to 3:10 to learn about how the Kids were suppose to rat out their parents to the Gestapo.

Turning the Kiddies into what they want.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdqaZNfs1mk


13 posted on 01/24/2013 3:29:46 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I got a half demerit for failing to bring my .22 target rifle to school for rifle team practice. That's right, I got in trouble for not bringing a gun to school.
14 posted on 01/24/2013 3:30:50 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: marron

We had rifles at YMCA camp. All the 8 year olds and above shot.

Then we headed to the archery range.


15 posted on 01/24/2013 3:33:37 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: Venturer

Training the youth that their first duty is to the state. My classmates would have taken a paddling before ratting on me, and those were the ones that didn’t like me.


16 posted on 01/24/2013 3:36:55 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Picture of the fifth greade girl:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/24/philadelphia-girl-searched-berated-for-having-a-gun-made-of-paper-at-school/

17 posted on 01/24/2013 3:41:09 PM PST by classified
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To: classified

that would be fifth grade girl:


18 posted on 01/24/2013 3:42:02 PM PST by classified
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people are such cowards, taking out their hatred of gun owners on little kids. Let them confront someone with a real gun in the same way. Then I’ll be impressed with their self-righteous zeal.


19 posted on 01/24/2013 3:45:58 PM PST by firebrand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Children should not be taught, under the authority of or left alone with retards.


20 posted on 01/24/2013 3:49:50 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fortunately, the search turned up no paper bullets. But if they had done a body cavity search...


21 posted on 01/24/2013 3:58:54 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My young one was kicked out of a conservative private school at about the end of 5th grade because of a completely false gun comment allegation. Private school, no Fed funding, they do what they want.

Then some years later he got suspended from public high school for merely trying to cheer someone up by squirting a can of Ether starting fluid over a BIC lighter, whoosh. Hey, it was lunch time, his buddy needed a distraction.

Today he is a conservative and very much his own thinker.


22 posted on 01/24/2013 4:11:52 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Da Coyote

“I want to see them in ragged clothes, hanging around the town square in the cold, begging for drugs.”

Union thugs tend t be dressed as you describe already. As for the drug begging, I’m sure they limit that to after hours and weekends.

And they searched her how? Did they pat down her genitalia? I would simply call the police and file a report for sexual assault.


23 posted on 01/24/2013 4:19:51 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dear Parents, Go to your Local DA with a LAWYER and File Criminal Felony Extortion Charges against the Principal, Threatening Criminal Action in any CIVIL MATTER is the definition of FELONY EXTORTION, 2-5 years first offense.


24 posted on 01/24/2013 4:20:07 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: marron

My husband also carried a knife to school and many had rifles of shotguns in the trunk of the car. This was the rural South in the 50s. My daughter was on her high school and college rifle team as well, a national competitor.
Ooh, I’m just shuddering, trembling with fear.
BTW, my Dad taught us the basic of shooting. Safety first.


25 posted on 01/24/2013 4:24:51 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: marron

My husband also carried a knife to school and many had rifles or shotguns in the trunk of the car. This was the rural South in the 50s. My daughter was on her high school and college rifle team as well, a national competitor.
Ooh, I’m just shuddering, trembling with fear.
BTW, my Dad taught us the basic of shooting. Safety first.


26 posted on 01/24/2013 4:25:35 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: unixfox

And yet when we point out the obvious to the libs, we are called extremist paranoid fringe lunatics. Go figure...


27 posted on 01/24/2013 4:28:39 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anti-Gun hysteria. Whipped up by King Obama the kid who ratted out the classmate will probably be at the next Democrat press conference.


28 posted on 01/24/2013 4:28:52 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh look, yet another reason to raise your own children instead of turning them over to complete stranger - who turn out to be complete idiots manufactured in colleges of education.

Seems to me that parents are out of excuses for the damage done to their kids, and they need to stop blaming schools/teachers/administrators. The expiration date on “Ignorance” is long past.


29 posted on 01/24/2013 4:43:27 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Zero Tolerance = Zero Common Sense.

30 posted on 01/24/2013 4:45:53 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmn . . . so the fifth grade girl is Caucasian. What is the “ethnic identity” of the teacher, administration thingies, ad nauseam.

Who did the ‘body search’? For that matter, what did the search consist of?


31 posted on 01/24/2013 4:49:28 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lucky she didn't say "BANG" or there would have been reports of shots fired.

32 posted on 01/24/2013 4:52:27 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somebody SHOULD have been arrested here, and it’s not the fifth grader.


33 posted on 01/24/2013 5:04:28 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The little princess was tting to terrorrize the school with the paper gun

SRSLY


34 posted on 01/24/2013 5:56:18 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Things sure have changed since I was a freshman in high school (1976) and I brought a .22 rifle, a 30/30 rifle, and a 12ga shotgun to school, along with a couple of rounds of ammo for each, in order to give a 10 minute talk on guns and gun safety for my speech class. Sure, I had to keep the guns in the school office outside of that class time, but nobody freaked out.

But then, I also shot every day at school (in the basement) in the JROTC rifle team.

Neal Boortz was right. Sending one's children to most public schools today should be grounds for charges of child abuse!

Mark

35 posted on 01/24/2013 6:07:08 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This sort of reminds me of the Salem witch trials. A fellow student accuses her of having a gun? A gun made out of paper? Her fellow students call her a murderer?

It’s one thing for the so-called adults in this booby hatch of a “school” to exhibit sick hysterical behavior. It’s another thing when students are influenced by them to do the same.

Time to pull the sane kids out. The wacko teachers and their acolytes deserve each other. Yuck.


36 posted on 01/24/2013 6:17:44 PM PST by goldi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This sort of reminds me of the Salem witch trials. A fellow student accuses her of having a gun? A gun made out of paper? Her fellow students call her a murderer?

It’s one thing for the so-called adults in this booby hatch of a “school” to exhibit sick hysterical behavior. It’s another thing when students are influenced by them to do the same.

Time to pull the sane kids out. The wacko teachers and their acolytes deserve each other. Yuck.


37 posted on 01/24/2013 6:17:44 PM PST by goldi
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To: LearsFool

In many (most?) families, both the father and mother have to work outside the home to sustain the household. How does one homeschool children when one works full-time? Answer that and you’ll make a billion dollars.


38 posted on 01/24/2013 6:54:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lots of people hold down two jobs. Make one of them teaching your kids.

Drop the TV off at the dump and you’ll find some of that time you don’t have.


39 posted on 01/24/2013 7:03:05 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She should have said it was an Origami project and that they were stifling her artistic talents.

.


40 posted on 01/24/2013 7:05:20 PM PST by Mears
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To: fattigermaster

A.) My children and stepchildren are grown and (B.) that’s up to the family, not outsiders.


41 posted on 01/24/2013 7:24:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: BPatella

Ping


42 posted on 01/25/2013 11:52:41 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: marron

I’ve seen innumerable posts, here and elsewhere, saying,
I will no longer shop at Penney’s
I’ll never shop at Home Depot anymore
I won’t spend my tourist dollars in California
I won’t be going to Florida
From now on, only “made in the USA”
I’m not staying with GEICO
I cut up my Bank of America card
Closing my Wells Fargo account...

But I don’t think I’ve ever seen a post saying,
That does it, I’m taking my kids out of public school!


43 posted on 01/25/2013 2:17:20 PM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Both parents work to sustain the household? How did their household get so hard to sustain? Did a bigger house mean more to them than their children’s minds and the future of the nation? Or a car loan? An extra car, and extra wardrobe, for that second job? Entertainment, cable tv, dinner out, vacations?
People sacrifice to afford what they value. If they’re putting their kids in government schools, that’s a reflection of their values.
Anyone can afford to homeschool. Anyone.


44 posted on 01/25/2013 2:44:28 PM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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