Illegals cost California about $16,000,000,000 annually, and that is the low estimate.
Posted on 01/20/2013 3:34:02 PM PST by moonshinner_09
While the national obsession with guns takes a turn for the hysterical, an interesting duel is taking shape in Washington between Barack Obama and Florida’s Sen. Marco Rubio. It involves an issue almost as incendiary as guns. Immigration.Luckily for us, neither Obama nor Rubio is being hysterical about it. They both recognize that 11 million undocumented immigrants can’t be wished away. Nor will they self-deport, in the unforgettably Stalinist phrase of the late Mitt Romney. And we can’t arrest them all and ship them across the Mexican border. Dwight Eisenhower tried that in 1954 with Operation Wetback, when the casual bigotry of national policy had no problem advertising itself by name. The “Wetbacks” came back, not least because the dirty little secret of chambers of commerce from here to Wall Street’s bottom lines is that they want them here.It’s not just that illegal immigration is unavoidable. Our consumer tastes and distaste for certain kind of work make it necessary. Without it, we wouldn’t have vegetables and fruit on our dinner tables because there’d be no one to pick them in the fields. We wouldn’t have much of a tourism industry in Florida because there’d be no one to make our beds in hotels and clean our theme parks’ toilets. We wouldn’t have nannies to slave after our children. We wouldn’t have much of a construction industry. In short, we wouldn’t have anyone doing the sort of work Americans believe they’re too good to do themselves
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Wow...what a concept!
Here's a revenue stream that would surely be better than taxing the shit out of those still lucky enough to HAVE an income, AND, it actually punishes those who are aiding-and-abetting Illegals, to increase their bottom-line.
The 11-12 million number comes from the U.S. Census Bureau and from Pew Research (a center-left think tank, but well respected for good data).
CIS, Numbers USA, and FAIR - which are the three top Conservative immigration think tanks - all use that number.
No doubt there are flaws in that number, but the consensus seems to be that it is the best one available.
He didn't "try", Ike SUCCEEDED in deporting 1.5 million illegals. And they did not "come back" until LBJ trashed the border patrol and immigration controls in the late 60s.
That's for sure! However they can be deported. They can be verified, hassled, expelled and arrested. They can be denied services, school enrollment and drivers licenses. It only takes the will to do so.
Eliminate ALL types of welfare unless all members in a house can prove they are Legal Immigrants or Citizens of the US.
Seize all vehicles from ILLEGAL ALIENS. Have them checked for any mechanical issue and if any are found, repair them at local High Schools or Vo-Tech Centers, if found to be unrepairable, scrap them for the good parts. Take the good running vehicles and use them a bonuses for those that repaired them or to people that work in the positions that supposedly American won't do. As a kid, if I found a job that would pay me minimum wage to pick vegetables for the summer and at the end of the summer I got a vehicle as a bonus, I would have done that work gladly.
Eliminate school programs that seem to me to encourage the problem. This would be things like English as a Second Language. My family immigrated from all over Europe though Ellis Island, well the ones the immigrated after it was built and the United States were formed, they all learned English as they knew they could not advance and most likely not survive if they did not. Eliminate instate tuition for ILLEAGL ALIENS, if a US Citizen has to pay a higher out-of-state tuition, then a ILLEGAL ALIEN should have to pay a minimum of 2.5 times the out-of-state tution rate.
Eliminate the automatic citizenship for infants born in this country from ILLEGAL ALIENS. There is a law that requires hospitals to provide service to anyone, so lets provide that service at the level that our U.S. Troops have had to endure. Set up a M.A.S.H. type hospital, with tents for the operating arena and the patient care/bedding area. Immediately deport both the child and mother back to the country of origin. If an ILLEGAL ALIEN gets on a waiting list for an organ transplant, put them at the bottom. If a US Citizen needs that same type of transplant, the US Citizens jumps over the ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Require tax payer information for all money transfers to high immigration countries that occur generally occur from the ATM type system's and also from unverifiable banking accounts. Have the transfer system automatically deduct All applicable taxes from the amount being transferred, this would include all type of Federal and State taxes. Since the yearly wage for the sender cannot be verified at the time of the transfer, deduct the taxes at the maximum rate that in in force. Issue a receipt with the Tax amounts detailed and clearly printed on it. At the end of the year when the required Tax returns are filed these receipts would be used to file the returns with along with any legitimate tax forms (W-2s, 1099s...). Audit all returns with duplicate information to determine if identity theft has occurred and if it has accept the return from the US citizen and send a audit notification to all others using the same information. If the return is deemed valid from the transfer receipts then issue a return for any amounts withdrawn that exceed the tax rates plus a 10% bonus, if the information is deemed invalid use the funds to further enhance the border and enforcement of immigration laws.
Sorry about the long rant, but this morning I was rear ended in my truck from a POS chevy car, which of the 3 people in it, none could speak English, the driver did not have insurance and the license plate on the CAR was from a FARM TRUCK. The officer that showed up stated it was too difficult to try to prosecute them, so he just let them go. Luckily for me the car took way more damage than my truck did.
No doubt there are flaws in that number, but the consensus seems to be that it is the best one available.
The 11 million number is total BS.
I can buy into the 12 million number in the 1990’s . If you look at the massive increase in illegal’s presence in our country since then not credible.
The Border Patrol caught and turned away about 750,000 people per year in the 70 mile wide Nogales sector of the border alone. The estimated that they intercepted 1 in 5 border crossers.
That implies about 2 million made it across per year in the Nogales sector alone.
Multiply that by 15 years and see what you get.
The total is more like 30-45 million which is consistent with the increased nationwide presence we have seen in the last 10-15 years.
This 11 million people number more of a low ball propaganda number that is large enough for action to be taken but small enough so it does not allow current US Citizens to realize that they will be politically swamped by illiterate illegals who have third world voting habits and no stake in our country.. .
Once illegals have the right legal right to vote themselves benefits and entitlements.
This is exactly what has happened in Southern California.
Illegals completely dominate political culture in So Cal because they are a huge fraction of the population. These Third World transplants have allowed Democrats to bring Third World type populist “give me” politics to the state and they are killing the state economy.
It's a big part of the reason California is so screwed up.
“Nor will they self-deport”
Baloney.
There are a number of states, especially in the South and Southwest, that have seen huge numbers of them self-deport.
Yeh, somebody tell this fruitloop that 75% of the migrant workers that pick our fruits and veggies are American citizens. We have 4 guest worker programs already in place for non citizens to come in and work and then go back home. We do not need to legalize 11 million people.
“If these idiots really want them here, why don’t they advocate for a bigger quota and easier entrance,”
I’d like to bring to the US two friends from the Central American country where I work. One needs to go to a one week long class, the other I’d like to pay for him to attend drafting classes at the local junior college.
Both men need these skills to better do their jobs in their home country.
So far, the bureaucratic obstacles at the US Embassy there seem insurmountable.
“If these idiots really want them here, why don’t they advocate for a bigger quota and easier entrance,”
I’d like to bring to the US two friends from the Central American country where I work. One needs to go to a one week long class, the other I’d like to pay for him to attend drafting classes at the local junior college.
Both men need these skills to better do their jobs in their home country.
So far, the bureaucratic obstacles at the US Embassy there seem insurmountable.
I hear ya. I have friends overseas who would love to come here and work, even at “menial” jobs. But no, I’d have to go thru scores of red tape and time delays and then probably get denied anyway. But let all these b******* into the country, have babies, commit crimes, cause accidents, slurp from the public trough . . sure bring em all in.
When the few states passed their Immigration
laws, illegals were self deporting from Alabama without any help except the fear of the law, Ga ,AZ had the same results.Illegals were self deporting.If they enforce the laws, the illegals self deport.Many churches are worried about empty pews and collection plates empty.
If illegal aliens were such a great thing then why is Mexico a sewer?
Illegals cost California about $16,000,000,000 annually, and that is the low estimate.
More bad political news from California today...
Just read that Hispanics will top whites as a percentage of the population sometime in 2013.
Currently a tie - 39% to 39%.
California’s white Socialists are about to get the “South African Surprise.”
Guess that are going to learn the true meaning of MeCha’s La Raza motto, “Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada” ( “For the Race, everything, outside the Race, nothing”). Uncontrolled immigration was one the Socialist Lefts tool's for gaining power by using illegals as a voting bloc.
Now that bloc is about to oust them from power and install it's own.
Call it the Villaraigosaization of California politics
CIS, Numbers USA, and FAIR - which are the three top Conservative immigration think tanks - all use that number.
No doubt there are flaws in that number, but the consensus seems to be that it is the best one available.
Additionally, the census numbers of population decline in Mexico also support the number of 16-20 million Mexicans moving to El Norte illegally.
Similar demographics in South and Central America support another 10 million of their collective populations moving to the US illegally.
SO figure 12 million here in 1996 plus 16-20 million Mexicans plus another 10 million Non Mexican South and Central Americans and you get an easy 30 - 40 million illegals in the US.
This is consistent with what we see in our new Press 1 for Spanish, Press 2 for English culture in the US.
Arrest all illegals, seize all property they possess and deport them.
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