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Taitz Supreme Court challenge a joke to some, important to others
Coach is Right ^ | 1/13/13 | George Spelvin

Posted on 01/13/2013 10:59:13 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

Those who support Attorney Orly Taitz’s challenge to Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility to serve as President are being urged to protest peacefully at inauguration proceedings on January 21, (the MLK, Jr. holiday,) and in front of the Supreme Court itself on February 15th when Justices will decide the merits of the challenge. Those making this unnecessary plea seem to forget that conservatives are always peaceful, even when confronted with the most inexcusable of antics by the other side.

“Well done, Doctor and good luck,” says licensed private investigator Neil Sankey to Orly Taitz on her website. “I will WALK there if necessary and if you need me,” he adds, offering his services during the upcoming Court conference. Along with Private Investigator Susan Daniels, Sankey generated a large public, social security data base in a lengthy research...

(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: barackobama; birthcertificate; birther; bounel; certifigate; harrisonbounel; harrisonjbounel; michaelmalihi; naturalborncitizen; orly; orlytaitz; ssn; supremecourt

1 posted on 01/13/2013 10:59:25 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

They’re demanding background checks on our citizens, but not any on the inhabitant of the white hut!


2 posted on 01/13/2013 11:02:48 AM PST by gunner03
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To: Oldpuppymax

I want her to succeed.

For many reasons, I believe that she will not.

The battle is worth fighting, anyway.

The nation is corrupt. Jackie Chan speaks the truth. I hate that he states it, but it is a fact of our lives.

That is one reason I support Palin. She was the most effective at fighting the corruption, wherever it occurred.

Until we drain the swamp, the disease will spread.

This case will never succeed when the swamp remains.


3 posted on 01/13/2013 11:10:45 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Jackie Chan said something about ObaMao’s corruption?


4 posted on 01/13/2013 11:14:24 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

AMEN!

and You have no idea how humongous the Corruption and Decay really is!!!!!!!


5 posted on 01/13/2013 11:17:21 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: Oldpuppymax
At the first ex parte meeting between
the Defendant and SCOTUS:

How can we further serve and submit to you, our Master and our King.”

6 posted on 01/13/2013 11:19:22 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Folks, please understand what “conference” means in the context of SCOTUS. “Conference” means a bunch of law clerks sitting around a table piled sky high with appeals to SCOTUS. Hundreds, literally hundreds sitting on that table. They are the ones that made it to the first cut. Somewhere in there is Orly’s case. Now the law clerks start the process of culling. AT BEST, may be 10 or so get accepted where they will actually “go to trial”. The rest? Rejected. She’s been rejected before and you can count on them to do it again.

The judiciary will only cooperate if there are huge, loud, ugly crowds outside their doors demanding justice.


7 posted on 01/13/2013 11:22:41 AM PST by bioqubit
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Folks, please understand what “conference” means in the context of SCOTUS. “Conference” means a bunch of law clerks sitting around a table piled sky high with appeals to SCOTUS. Hundreds, literally hundreds sitting on that table. They are the ones that made it to the first cut. Somewhere in there is Orly’s case. Now the law clerks start the process of culling. AT BEST, may be 10 or so get accepted where they will actually “go to trial”. The rest? Rejected. She’s been rejected before and you can count on them to do it again.

The judiciary will only cooperate if there are huge, loud, ugly crowds outside their doors demanding justice.


8 posted on 01/13/2013 11:23:12 AM PST by bioqubit
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To: bioqubit

However, I would counsel to anyone reading this, we can still make the effort to pressure SCOTUS to hear her case. Letters, email, twitter, facebook, youtube videos, faxes to SCOTUS, Congress, even the White House as well as other parties. Aggressive, sustained and in your face. We have been polite for nearly 5 years. Time’s up.


9 posted on 01/13/2013 11:26:51 AM PST by bioqubit
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To: bioqubit

Taitz is probably a paid saboteur!!


10 posted on 01/13/2013 11:27:17 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: bioqubit

11 posted on 01/13/2013 11:31:53 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
0bama's forged selective service card date stamp (on left). Federal Law at that time required 4-digits for the date stamp year, not two (correct example on right):

It is theorized that the '80' on 0bama's SSC is '2008' cut in half and turned upside down (A 1980 date stamp forged from a date stamp from 2008).

12 posted on 01/13/2013 11:39:04 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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The Itinerary for the SCOTUS on FEB. 15, 2013.

Case Distribution Schedule -- October Term 2012 (PDF)

The case info, for what it's worth.

No. 12A606


Title:
Edward Noonan, et al., Applicants
v.
Deborah Bowen, California Secretary of State
Docketed: December 13, 2012
Lower Ct: Supreme Court of California
Case Nos.: (S207078)

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dec 11 2012 Application (12A606) for a stay, submitted to Justice Kennedy.
Dec 13 2012 Application (12A606) denied by Justice Kennedy.
Dec 26 2012 Application (12A606) refiled and submitted to The Chief Justice.
Jan 9 2013 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of February 15, 2013.
Jan 9 2013 Application (12A606) referred to the Court.

~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~Phone~~~
Attorneys for Petitioner:
Orly Taitz 29839 Santa Margarita Pkwy (949) 683-5411
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688
Party name: Edward Noonan, et al.
Attorneys for Respondent:
Kamala Harris Attorney General (916) 445-9555
P. O. Box 944255
Sacramento, CA 94244-2550
Party name: Deborah Bowen, California Secretary of State

13 posted on 01/13/2013 11:49:34 AM PST by deport
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To: bioqubit

“The judiciary will only cooperate if there are huge, loud, ugly crowds outside their doors demanding justice”.....I’m all ears......how do we get organized and demand justice? the day leading up to it @ State Capital Buildings? They have us all out here, widely dispersed......


14 posted on 01/13/2013 11:58:32 AM PST by stickywillie
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To: deport
Party name: Deborah Bowen, California Secretary of State

This is a lawsuit in which Orly sued Deborah Bowen, the California Secretary of State, to enjoin her from certifying California's election results. She did NOT sue Obama or any other federal official in this case. California's votes have already been certified and Congress has accepted the electoral vote count. So it is legally impossible for the Supreme Court to now grant Orly any of what she is asking for in this case.

15 posted on 01/13/2013 12:38:14 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

what relief is she asking for?


16 posted on 01/13/2013 1:49:40 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone
what relief is she asking for?

Her application for a stay to the Supreme Court asks the Court to stay the certification of California's votes (which has already happened), stay the Congress from certifying the electoral votes (which has also already happened, and didn't involve Bowen anyway) and stay Obama's inauguration (which is likewise not something Debra Bowen would have the power to do even if SCOTUS ordered her to do it). Bowen is the only defendant in this case, so Orly's motion is even more preposterous than her usual filings; it would be like me suing you for a judgment that Orly Taitz owes me a million dollars. Courts can issue orders only to the parties to the case.

17 posted on 01/13/2013 2:00:10 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I think this is the original filing your are referring.

From Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_C._Noonan

Mr. Noonan ran for the Office of President of the United States in 2012 and won the American Independent Party’s primary in California.

In January of 2012 Mr. Noonan filed suit with 6 other electors in California to prevent the Secretary of State, Debra Bowen from placing Mr. Barack Obama on the California Primary Ballot. Mr. Noonan and the other petitioners claimed that Mr. Obama had not proved that he was a U.S. Citizen. The case was dismissed by Judge Micheal P. Kenny of the Sacramento Superior Court and was appealed in August of 2012.

*********

More at the following article about her exchanges with the Judge in Sacramento.

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/01/03/5091099/orly-taitzs-obama-birther-claims.html


18 posted on 01/13/2013 2:17:37 PM PST by deport
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To: Oldpuppymax

Who is Harrison J. Bounel?


19 posted on 01/13/2013 2:17:45 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: deport

The Sacramento case is a different one, filed in federal court (and still at the trial court level). The SCOTUS motion that is the subject of this thread is an attempt to appeal from a California state-court suit against Bowen.


20 posted on 01/13/2013 2:24:52 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Thanks...... I stand corrected.


21 posted on 01/13/2013 2:28:49 PM PST by deport
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To: deport

Taitz has filed so many different lawsuits she herself has trouble telling them apart. Hence her motion to SCOTUS to enjoin people who aren’t even named in this case.


22 posted on 01/13/2013 2:48:55 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
""""Taitz has filed so many different lawsuits she herself has trouble telling them apart. Hence her motion to SCOTUS to enjoin people who aren’t even named in this case.""""

I wonder, if there are any attorneys on our side who after reviewing these cases, offer to assist Orly? I mean, it is too easy and nonproductive, in fact destructive to sit on the sidelines and throw stones. But why are there not more legal people on our side getting their hands dirty, helping Orly or filing their own cases?

Let's talk about how we can win rather than why we will lose!!!

23 posted on 01/13/2013 9:30:03 PM PST by Constitution 123
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To: Constitution 123
"I wonder, if there are any attorneys on our side who after reviewing these cases, offer to assist Orly? "

Attorneys have ego issues. I'm sure many may have tried to help her... but would she allow them?

24 posted on 01/13/2013 9:45:49 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Oldpuppymax

Orly Taitz is an American heroine. Would that there were others with the understanding of what is at stake and the fortitude to stand up to corruption at the highest levels of U.S. government. Orly Taitz should be supported. Obamabots call her bad names because they are scared of her. The judges who have run from the case are scared for their jobs and perhaps their lives. There cannot be that many dim-witted judges. There is enough objective, compelling evidence for the case claiming fraud to have proceeded many times over.


25 posted on 01/13/2013 9:55:52 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now (Orly Taitz is an American Heroine.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
"""" but would she allow them?"""

Okay.... That is a good question, But I do not think she refused help. WHY? Because we would have heard about it already.. and even if it were true that she would not accept assistance, it would not prevent other attorneys from filing there own cases. Right? In fact, there have been other attorneys and other cases (Not enough) AND They all have been treated exactly like Orly. So don't drink the Cool-aid.

26 posted on 01/13/2013 10:01:21 PM PST by Constitution 123
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Love the fact that this “flawed” woman has more guts than so many so called “patriots” here on FR. She may not rise to your standards, but she is the mouse trying to find her way into the cheese.


27 posted on 01/13/2013 10:07:17 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Constitution 123

Could it be that she’s impossible to work with? Other attorneys, investigators, whatever .. over the years most seem to have had a falling out of one sort or another.

As posted elsewhere, it could be an ego issue. Hers appears outsized, and without warrant. She thinks she knows more about the law than she does, and seems not ony clueless but reckless about the rules of the courts where she wants to file. That’s basic to any legal practice.

It is dangerous for any attorney to get involved with someone who is such a ‘loose cannon.’ IMO she’s done more to hurt than help the serious questions that have been raised, by having set herself up as the ‘face of the birther movement,’ and totally poisoning the waters. Obama couldn’t have lucked out with a better ‘face’ for his opposition. She is no hero.


28 posted on 01/13/2013 10:08:43 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

Actually she has kept the issue on the front burner, far more than those you may “deem” as more worthy. Too bad you can’t find it in one cell of your superior cranium to root for her if not support her in her quest to expose this fraud.


29 posted on 01/13/2013 10:13:01 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Yes she is a heroine in this, just as Sarah Palin was also a heroine. Too bad so many here have succumbed to the media attacks of what is “cool” and what is not. So they all go on their cowardly merry way.


30 posted on 01/13/2013 10:15:30 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

What is it about her poisoning the waters you don’t understand? Her grandstanding, her outsized ego, her world-class incompetence ... all made the “birther movement” so easy to mock. It was her, not me.


31 posted on 01/13/2013 10:26:27 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

What part of fighting against the progressives do you hate... obviously ORLY... what or who are the others that you equally despise? Methinks those who
“poison the waters” should look inward.


32 posted on 01/13/2013 10:42:14 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
""""Orly Taitz should be supported. Obamabots call her bad names because they are scared of her.""""

Agreed.... Whenever there is a effective Conservative They are always dismissed and labeled by the left as one or any combination of the following:

Incompetent, not qualified by reason of stupidity, mean spirited, out of touch, selfish, against the middle class, anti immigrant, racist etc.

So this is what they do to de fang us... They are doing the same thing to Orly..... Please do not join them

33 posted on 01/13/2013 11:27:22 PM PST by Constitution 123
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To: EDINVA
""""Her grandstanding, her outsized ego, her world-class incompetence ... all made the “birther movement” so easy to mock. It was her, not me.""""

Yes it is you..... Rats rarely throw stones at their incompetent members. They are always there defended with talking points to the last breath. Just look at smiling Gaf-prone Biden. Why we tear each other from with-in is what people like you need to understand. No one is perfect.... but she is a good soldier doing her best.... She deserves our support.

34 posted on 01/13/2013 11:27:49 PM PST by Constitution 123
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To: Lurking Libertarian

They care not. When it is denied without comment, there will be gnashing of teeth and accusations of threats & bribes.

I have ESP doncha know?


35 posted on 01/14/2013 12:53:14 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: EDINVA

I’m sure You will claim to be an extreme conservative since You have been a member here since 2000!

However your rhetoric smacks loudly of being a Saul Alinsky Disciple!

Oh Well!


36 posted on 01/14/2013 1:26:10 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: Constitution 123

AMEN!! AMEN!! AMEN!!

RUSH was talking about just that today!

She or He has obviously studied “RULES FOR RADICALS” by Saul Alinsky and appears to be a loyal disciple of Alinsky’s!


37 posted on 01/14/2013 1:34:07 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: EDINVA

I am utterly amazed at your so called logic and demeaning of fellow Conservatives and I am giving you the benefit of doubt there! Is there a Conservative Leader that You actually admire and support?


38 posted on 01/14/2013 1:37:57 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Those look like artifacts from a manual typewriter, where the strike pressure can vary.


39 posted on 01/14/2013 1:59:01 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Constitution 123

“Rats rarely throw stones at their incompetent members. They are always there defended with talking points to the last breath.”

So you’re being a Rat and want me to be one, too? Sorry ‘bout that, but when we have corruption or incompetence on our side, I face it and admit it, and refuse to support and condone it, however acceptable that obviously is to you. I don’t think you have much to teach me that I don’t fully understand.


40 posted on 01/14/2013 2:19:39 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA
"""So you’re being a Rat and want me to be one, too?"""

Um no.... You still don't get it. I am just revealing strategics employed by the rats on the other side and pointing out how some people on our side like you are falling into the trap and being played like a fiddle. If you really want to have a positive impact for the cause, do something. Like Orly.

"""when we have corruption or incompetence on our side, I face it and admit it""""

Orly has this case being considered by the Supremes. Where are you? Oh yea, Sitting in front of your computer throwing stones.

"""I don’t think you have much to teach me that I don’t fully understand.""""

Perhaps.... That is for others to judge. ...... Have you ever read The Art Of War? http://suntzusaid.com/ ..... I guarantee the Rats have....... Have a good day and God Bless

41 posted on 01/14/2013 3:18:29 PM PST by Constitution 123
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To: True Republican Patriot

“...your rhetoric smacks loudly of being a Saul Alinsky Disciple!”

How trite. And your rhetoric smacks loudly of total foolishness that no ‘extreme conservative’ screen name can overcome.

You and Constitution 123 should know that when you post about another FReeper, FR etiquette requires that you copy that person. And ad hominem attacks are theoretically forbidden.

You two can have your little circle jerk calling me an “Alinsky disciple!” (don’t forget the exclamation point!) for not swooning over Orly Taitz. And I can continue to chortle at your cluelessness.

You just go ahead and keep supporting Orly Taitz, that’s OK with me. Send her big checks. Today.

Why don’t you get back to me after the SCOTUS denies her petition without comment ... or maybe she should hope there’s no comment vs. what they might be inclined to say. In the meanwhile I shall reserve my right to think that the woman destroyed any hope for those raising legitimate questions about Obama’s Constitutional eligibility to serve as President of the United States.


42 posted on 01/14/2013 4:47:25 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Constitution 123; EDINVA
Your post #34.

No one is perfect.... but she is a good soldier doing her best.... She deserves our support.

I hope to be excused as a non-citizen on something that occurred to me (cheers from the gallery). I have followed the titanic struggle of those who wish to simply find out just who their president is. This is not to poke and pry like gossip columnists in Hollywood, but to get a distinct record. After all for such an important position as the president of the most powerful nation in the world, surely a detailed resume is in order. Aside from that, the thought that finally got into my consciousness is this.

Somehow various movements of the conservatives seem to first push forward together. Then they split apart and tear each other up, even as they face off against a demagogue. Canadian conservatives destroyed each other, when faced with a demagogue. He was thrown out, but crawled back later. Many of them had not supported an honest man called Joe Clark, a prime minister.

Now look at the left. No matter what the lowest, perverted supporter of theirs does, they either ignore that person- or even support them. The worst, the seditious rabble rouser, even inciting treason and violence against America is either ignored or gets a pass. The left sticks together.

Since the mention is of a good soldier, I can only hope that the stentorian command might make itself felt.

Steady in the ranks.

43 posted on 01/14/2013 8:42:53 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: Oldpuppymax

Obama’s protectors are afraid of Orly Taitz because they know she is using the law of the land to peacefully get the legal system to face the fact that Obama did not quality to be on the ballot for president. Those who were afraid of women’s suffrage mocked Elilzabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony. Orly Taitz is an accomplished women. Foreign born and acutely aware from her family’s experience of the human rights violations of the likes of Obama, she is fighting tooth and nail for her adopted country to stay the land of the free and the home of the brave. She’s one of few who are showing themselves to be brave. History well into the future will count her one of the few heroes of our generation. To those who put her down: What is your problem? She’s a little too outspoken, a little too animated? a little too foreign for some of the moles who show up to write here and sow dought about her? Shame on you. Help her, support her, or if you think she’s not doing the job as you would do it, then you undertake to do it, too, your way.

http://www.americaslibrary.gov/aa/stanton/aa_stanton_friends_3.html


44 posted on 01/14/2013 10:19:00 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now (Orly Taitz is a true heroine.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

More actions and approaches are needed and they are needed now. Obama’s protectors are afraid of Orly Taitz because they know she is using the law of the land to peacefully get the legal system to face the fact that Obama did not quality to be on the ballot for president. Those who were afraid of women’s suffrage mocked Elilzabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony. Orly Taitz is an accomplished woman. Foreign born and acutely aware from her family’s experience of the human rights violations of the likes of Obama, she is fighting tooth and nail for her adopted country to stay the land of the free and the home of the brave. She’s one of few who are showing themselves to be brave. History well into the future will count her one of the few heroes of our generation. To those who put her down: What is your problem? She’s a little too outspoken, a little too animated? a little too foreign for some of the moles who show up to write here and sow doubt about her? Shame on you. Help her, support her, or if you think she’s not doing the job as you would do it, then you undertake an approach and do it your way.


45 posted on 01/14/2013 10:26:38 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now (Orly Taitz is a true heroine.)
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To: Peter Libra
"""" No matter what the lowest, perverted supporter of theirs does, they either ignore that person- or even support them. The worst, the seditious rabble rouser, even inciting treason and violence against America is either ignored or gets a pass. The left sticks together.""""

Thanks.... It is very refreshing to confirm that there are non-citizens like you who see the truth. You know, I never expressed this before but I have concluded that the reason the left finds it so easy to band together and speak with one voice is that they have been indoctrinated ... Yes, Brainwashed to the point that they actually believe that their philosophy is much more enlightened and superior to ours. So much so, that we are not even worthy enough to debate them. They do not think they need to examine any details of their views.

We on the the other hand must live by a higher standard or we risk being labeled as hypocrites and or racists. They can lie, distort and demagogue because they think they are so much more intelligent and caring then us.

46 posted on 01/15/2013 12:42:22 AM PST by Constitution 123
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