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A Good, Just Society Would Execute Pedophiles
Claytonlindemuth.com ^ | 1/9/13 | Clayton Lindemuth

Posted on 01/09/2013 8:08:42 PM PST by DC Bound

Think back to the last time you listened to the nightly news and heard a story about an eight year old girl that was missing for two weeks, and then found in a shallow grave with evidence of having been raped. The grave turned out to be in the back yard of a “person of interest” identified within a day of the child’s disappearance. Why? Because he was a registered pedophile.

When you heard that story, did you wish our society had tried harder to help the child rapist-turned-murderer? Or did you wish we were a stronger, less tolerant society?

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: childmolester; deathpenalty; evil; pedophile

1 posted on 01/09/2013 8:08:52 PM PST by DC Bound
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To: DC Bound

I agree.


2 posted on 01/09/2013 8:22:23 PM PST by onedoug
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To: DC Bound

I agree, too. They can never be “rehabilitated.” They’re a drain on society, and if they ever get out again, like what’s being said, they’ll do it again and worse...


3 posted on 01/09/2013 8:27:26 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Thorliveshere

Yeah, my experience with it was that a grandfather by marriage not blood got away with it for forty plus years, multiple generations. Would’ve been nice if someone would have handled it in 1958. Thanks for the read.


4 posted on 01/09/2013 8:30:43 PM PST by DC Bound (www.claytonlindemuth.com)
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To: DC Bound

I seem to recall an incident in my homestate of Louisiana in which a pedophile was taken out to a cane field by some family members of the victim, and flayed to pieces via a bullwhip.

Pure, beautiful justice. I would happily endorse that very same treatment for each and every child molester, without reservation.


5 posted on 01/09/2013 8:36:54 PM PST by greene66
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To: DC Bound

Or exile them on an island with their kindred. Sometimes death is
not punishment.


6 posted on 01/09/2013 8:39:49 PM PST by nvscanman
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To: onedoug
I'm not sure I agree exactly.

I agree that anyone who commits murder should be executed, I do not believe the reason for the murder has anything to do with that. Second, I believe that anybody that commits forcible, violent rape against the wishes of the person being raped deserves to be executed.

I do not believe that a child is any more important than anybody else. All life is precious. Let me state that again, ALL LIFE IS PRECIOUS!

A crime is a crime. I don't care that the person has uncontrollable desires, I don't care that the abuser was abused. We all know it is wrong. They know it is wrong, that is why they hide their acts. They don't want to be caught because they know it is wrong.

To me making a person register as a sex offender and have everybody hiding from him, pointing at him etc., is cruel and unusual punishment and shouldn't be allowed, the poor person should be executed instead.

Do I believe in mercy, you betcha. Do I believe in forgiveness yes I do, and I'll tell these poor demented people who abuse children that I will forgive them but that they still need to fulfill the law and be executed.

Rapists of 3 or 30 year olds need to be removed from society, permanently.

7 posted on 01/09/2013 8:41:29 PM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: greene66

I recall that too, now that you mention it. Don’t know the state or the date, but the incident registers. And you’re right: pure justice.


8 posted on 01/09/2013 8:47:27 PM PST by DC Bound (www.claytonlindemuth.com)
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To: JAKraig

Well said, JA.


9 posted on 01/09/2013 8:48:55 PM PST by DC Bound (www.claytonlindemuth.com)
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To: DC Bound; Morgana

anyone who sees sex when they look at a minor should be executed


10 posted on 01/09/2013 9:08:23 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: DC Bound

This issue will divide the libertarians.


11 posted on 01/09/2013 9:16:30 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said “conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: GeronL

anyone who sees sex when they look at a minor should be executed

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We act on crimes not thoughts.

And many 19 year olds look at 15 year olds and think sex.


12 posted on 01/09/2013 9:23:48 PM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: ansel12

Really? Why would a libertarian want to keep pedophiles around?


13 posted on 01/09/2013 9:32:59 PM PST by DC Bound (www.claytonlindemuth.com)
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To: DC Bound

The fact is that this will divide libertarians, because while it fits their agenda, many will recoil at it, of course more libertarians will recoil today, than will as the years go by, that is how the left works.


14 posted on 01/09/2013 9:40:07 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said “conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: Chickensoup

and 19 year olds should know what the definition of maturity and adult is. If they have no self-control, patience and good judgement they probably shouldn’t be walking aroun on their own.


15 posted on 01/09/2013 9:40:24 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: DC Bound

A society with balls would revolt against this government


16 posted on 01/09/2013 9:44:33 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Chickensoup

The normalization has been going on for a long time. Its disgusting.

This movie was out in 1981, it was just at the start and “tame” in comparison


17 posted on 01/09/2013 9:44:45 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: wardaddy

With balls, or just plain human decency and a tiny desire to live free.


18 posted on 01/09/2013 9:58:29 PM PST by DC Bound (www.claytonlindemuth.com)
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To: DC Bound

Don’t feed the troll.


19 posted on 01/09/2013 10:00:43 PM PST by FredZarguna (Liberals: they devolved, they rebelled, there are many copies ... and they have a Plan)
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To: GeronL

There is also difference between statutory rape and pedophilia

The 19 year-old banging his 15 year-old girl friend is not the same thing, not even close.


20 posted on 01/09/2013 10:12:10 PM PST by Fai Mao
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To: ansel12

It shouldn’t. All libertarians have to understand that Virtue is always necessary for Freedom. You can NEVER have a civil society without Ethics-—and the only Ethical system which elevated women and the innocence of children and equality for all under the Rule of Law—is Christian Ethics.

The idea that you can separate human beings from a moral system is bizarre and stupid. Without Ethics, you can not have Justice (Virtue) and no possibility of any efficient economic system, because Trust wouldn’t exist.

All geniuses since Socrates (and Founders) and Hayek-—have stated—without Public Virtue, there is no freedom. ALL REPUBLICS (Machiavelli in Discourses) stated that they had to promote public Virtue.

Fear is what is promoted in tyrannies. BTW, Machiavelli stated in his Discourses that it is essential to promote Virtue in a military.

Why do you think Vice is being forced onto our troops today????? (Unconstitutional to promote Vice through laws in a Just country)!!!! It will collapse and destroy the morality of the military—and make them so corrupt-—like the Russian and Nazi homosexual Brownshirts-—they will have no moral qualms treating their own citizens —as dehumanized objects-—since they are conditioned into the sodomy mindset of the degenerates, devoid of morality.

Libertarians had better get educated....they are so convinced you can separate human beings from morality and still have civility. Just stupidity.


21 posted on 01/09/2013 10:36:32 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

Wow. Good stuff. Thanks for adding to the mix. Powerful.


22 posted on 01/09/2013 10:54:18 PM PST by DC Bound (www.claytonlindemuth.com)
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To: DC Bound

Send People Like Michael Jackson To Lifetime Halfway Houses In Alaska
by Alan Srout:
http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/may/article120.html

Gubernatorial Candidate Wants To Create ‘Pedophile Island’ To Banish Sex Offenders
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2010/05/pedophile_island.php

California teachers union kills anti-pedophile law
http://cal-catholic.com/wordpress/2012/07/17/california-teachers-union-kills-anti-pedophile-law/


23 posted on 01/09/2013 11:05:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: DC Bound

and murderers. including abortionists and those that murder their babies - their body, their choice, after all.


24 posted on 01/09/2013 11:21:23 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: onedoug

and rapists as well.


25 posted on 01/09/2013 11:21:56 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: DC Bound

and finally, executing anyone who lies about another person committing a capital crime.


26 posted on 01/09/2013 11:23:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: JAKraig; DC Bound
I do not believe that a child is any more important than anybody else. All life is precious.

It's not a question of the child being more important than an adult. The point is that a child is vastly more vulnerable than an adult. Such acts cannot be "unseen" and cannot be put into perspective by a child too young to understand or have formed a stable self-image. It warps the personality of the victim for life, causing great suffering to the victim and her or his family members, including any future spouse, children, or in some cases, future victims of the abused person, since some are compelled to repeat the behavior. Some others fall into a pattern of seeking abuse or engaging in promiscuity or prostitution, in the absence of a supportive family and sources of therapy. In some cases, the cuckolded parent will either disbelieve the child or blame the child.

Society would be much better served by executing pedophiles and also pornographers dealing in pedophilia. This behavior needs to be labeled as completely out of bounds.

27 posted on 01/09/2013 11:24:25 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("If you're going through hell, keep on going."--Winston Churchill)
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To: GeronL

we do not execute people for bad thoughts.

we execute them if they actually commit capital crimes.


28 posted on 01/09/2013 11:27:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; massmike; Maelstorm; wagglebee; little jeremiah
California teachers union kills anti-pedophile law
http://cal-catholic.com/wordpress/2012/07/17/california-teachers-union-kills-anti-pedophile-law/

That is just one of the most revolting articles I have read in a long time, and I read for hours a day. When will California fall into the ocean as predicted?

Pinging.

29 posted on 01/09/2013 11:34:15 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("If you're going through hell, keep on going."--Winston Churchill)
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To: FredZarguna

Wow, I just caught your truly troll like post, if you want to attack a poster, then address him, don’t lie about him behind his back.

This issue will of course divide the libertarians, they defend this behavior as personal choice, but many will be repulsed by that agenda.


30 posted on 01/10/2013 12:10:56 AM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said “conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: ansel12

You don’t know anything about libertarians except the nonsense you’ve made up in your own brain. I’m not going to feed your trolling by posting to you, and I’m going to continue to advise sensible posters to ignore your nonsensical, poorly informed, and downright lying rants.


31 posted on 01/10/2013 1:12:03 AM PST by FredZarguna (Liberals: they devolved, they rebelled, there are many copies ... and they have a Plan)
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To: FredZarguna

If you aren’t a troll then follow FR protocol and ping those freepers you are attacking.

Evidently you don’t have anything to post except personal attacks and lies.

If you don’t think that this is a libertarian issue then you don’t know libertarianism, this issue is a core libertarian argument issue.

Libertarianism exists even when their positions repulse you personally, or throw light on their uglier side, like partial birth abortion and homosexual marriage and homosexualizing the military.


32 posted on 01/10/2013 1:23:55 AM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said “conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: DC Bound

I guess none of you have been listening to rush Limbaugh this week


33 posted on 01/10/2013 3:19:22 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: GeronL
anyone who sees sex when they look at a minor should be executed

And anyone who ever said or thought the word's "I'd like to kill...", should be deemed mentally dangerous and never be allowed in piublic or to have a weapon...

Semantics to be sure, but conceptually the same - thinking and acting are different. The real problem is that so many get out time and again and end up "evolving" to the worst stages. Unless the judiciary becomes accountable, it is here to stay.

34 posted on 01/10/2013 3:50:39 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: GeronL

and 19 year olds should know what the definition of maturity and adult is. If they have no self-control, patience and good judgement they probably shouldn’t be walking aroun on their own.
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YOu are right, a 19 year old boy who has sex with a 15 year old girl should be executed. /sarcasm off


35 posted on 01/10/2013 5:37:15 AM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: trebb

And anyone who ever said or thought the word’s “I’d like to kill...”, should be deemed mentally dangerous and never be allowed in piublic or to have a weapon...

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This is partially true now, if you say I would like to kill and are deemed mentaally dangerous you are remanded to a psychiatric unit, often against your will and lose the right to own or carry a firearm.


36 posted on 01/10/2013 5:41:22 AM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Albion Wilde

Very well said, Albion. Thank you.


37 posted on 01/10/2013 7:16:19 AM PST by DC Bound (www.claytonlindemuth.com)
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To: DC Bound

Yesterday, an Oklahoma judge sentenced 66 year old Gary Doby to life in prison for molesting children via skype. He plead guilty, as did his female accomplice. Under Oklahoma law he will first become eligible for parole when he is 104 so Mr. Doby will eventually die in prison. Because he has been convicted of sexually abusing children he will spend every day of that sentence in solitary confinement.


38 posted on 01/10/2013 8:52:53 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ops33

That’s much better than the usual sentence, but I still think it shows evidence that we are unclear in our values. I think protecting children when they are at their absolute most vulnerable is more important than supporting the lives of people who have demonstrated a total lack of humanity.

Keeping pedophiles locked up at taxpayer expense, as if there is some intrinsic value to their lives worth protecting, makes no sense to me. Especially when keeping evil alive and well always carries with it the small possibility that it will someday again become loose in the world and wreak havoc, such as ten years from now when some parole rule changes. The death penalty is permanent, just like the damage done by the pedophile. It matches up nicely.


39 posted on 01/10/2013 9:23:45 AM PST by DC Bound (www.claytonlindemuth.com)
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To: Chickensoup

statutory rape should be a CAPITAL CRIME


40 posted on 01/10/2013 5:53:26 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

statutory rape should be a CAPITAL CRIME

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Right. Sex between a fifteen year old and an eighteen year old should result in execution.

Fool!


41 posted on 01/10/2013 5:56:14 PM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: GeronL

statutory rape should be a CAPITAL CRIME

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Right. Consensual sex between a fifteen year old and an eighteen year old should result in execution.

Fool!


42 posted on 01/10/2013 5:56:40 PM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Chickensoup

too young to consent legally

if she is old enough sex, she is old enough to move out and take care of herself


43 posted on 01/10/2013 8:54:38 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Chickensoup

too young to consent legally

if she is old enough sex, she is old enough to move out and take care of herself


44 posted on 01/10/2013 8:54:42 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thanks for the ping. I’ve been very overwhelmed since almost mid Dec but starting to surface now. I will ping this out.


45 posted on 01/10/2013 10:31:55 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: GeronL

if she is old enough sex, she is old enough to move out and take care of herself

True. The draconian school and work laws need to be recinded.


46 posted on 01/11/2013 5:23:18 AM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: little jeremiah

Bless you, sweet lj. Have a wonderful new year!


47 posted on 01/11/2013 11:41:47 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("If you're going through hell, keep on going."--Winston Churchill)
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To: DC Bound

You can forget about the US ever becoming a just society. Even RUSSIA doesn’t want us to adopt children because of how little we care about them...and this is coming from a nation with 4 million street urchins.

Pedophilia will punished less and less as time goes on. It will be entirely legal in 20 years. In 50 years it will be legal to murder a child and anyone who is not a member of the party elite.

This is our future and there is no escape. Pray for the total annihilation of Earth.


48 posted on 03/03/2013 1:39:32 PM PST by Wanderer99
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