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Libertarianism & Christianity
Faith Facts Publishing ^ | January 5, 2013 | Faith Facts

Posted on 01/06/2013 3:43:37 PM PST by grumpa

We have noticed many conservative Christians these days claiming to hold to a libertarian political philosophy. Libertarianism is the idea that government should allow complete freedom, except in the case when one person directly harms another. While this often sounds appealing to Christians, we see see a dangerous clash of worldviews in trying to mix Christianity with libertarianism. We think that “Christian libertarians” have been unwittingly duped into adopting a philosophy that has much in common with liberal secularists--and is contrary to the Bible at key points. Libertarianism and Christianity really do not mix like some think. Among the problems are these:

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: abortion; ayn; christianity; faithandphilosophy; libertarianism; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; openborders; rand
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To: grumpa

Hate to say it, but many Libertarians I know are rabidly anti-Christian. They see no reason why Christian morality or even Jewish ethics should be part of society and show no appreciation for how those same said morals and ethics helped build America.


21 posted on 01/06/2013 6:18:54 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: grumpa

Barf.. Tell that to Gary North.


22 posted on 01/06/2013 7:11:02 PM PST by foundedonpurpose (It's time for a fundamental restoration, of our country's principles!)
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To: Amberdawn

I consider myself to be a Christian Libertarian, also a Conservative constitutionalist and a traditionalist. You are making a fundamental mistake in associating the ones you claim to know with all Libertarians. There is more than one path to a political philosophy and that path isn’t as important as the destination. That destination is limited government and individual autonomy. From a strictly political philosophy point of view a man’s religious beliefs don’t interest me at all.


23 posted on 01/06/2013 7:20:24 PM PST by Oklahoma
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To: Amberdawn

—Hate to say it,
—but many Libertarians I know are rabidly anti-Christian.

Must be a local thing
I live in E. Tenn.
It is about as Libertarian as you can get
And is Predominantly Baptist/Methodist/Presbyterian


24 posted on 01/06/2013 7:28:15 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: humblegunner
When some blogger attempts to use FR as an advertising platform, I might make mention of it. Have you some problem with that?

I have a major problem with it, and so do a lot of Freepers. And it's more than that you are just an annoying obsessive-compulsive thread hijacker - much more.

You see, your basic premis is to attack people for doing exactly what Free Republic does. The MSM hate FR because it excerpts articles, and actually sued FR to try to close it down. In response an agreement was reached about excert lengths, and some news sources are cut out completely from FR.

So who the hell are you to deny bloggers this exact same process? Why don't you attack everyone on FR for participating at all - aren't we all excerpting from the MSM? Why don't you come to their defense?

Oh, because you've personally decided that the MSM is legitimate news, and bloggers are illegitimate? When FR itself is lambasted for that exact same thing by the MSM? When the very purpose of FR is to dig down and expose the bias and lies of the MSM? When FR bloggers have broken historic stories buried by the MSM?

And then you SLANDER ALL OF THEM by referring to them as mere advertising platforms, while completely ignoring their content? Your arrrogant claims of legitimacy are a bald-faced lie!

YOU HAVE NO MORAL BASIS FOR YOUR HARRASSMENT OF FREEPERS!

Get a life, humblegunner. And stop helping the MSM hide things, by attacking bloggers PER SE. If you want to actually help, read bloggers and disagree with them ON MERIT. Not merely because they exist. All you are doing is showing that you are unable to take part in legitimate conversations, and instead have found a little schtick to annoy people with - and greatly help the MSM hide information from people.

For the millionth time, humblegunner, KNOCK IT OFF!

25 posted on 01/06/2013 7:29:05 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: HangnJudge

It’s local and international. Ever had a discussion with a British Libertarian? Funny you mention Tennessee-Glenn Reynolds is a Professor there.


26 posted on 01/06/2013 7:38:54 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Oklahoma

I’m not making any mistakes because I never said that all libertarians think the same way.


27 posted on 01/06/2013 7:40:56 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Interesting Guy...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Reynolds


28 posted on 01/06/2013 7:51:22 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: montanajoe

And why can’t it be both? Either way, the current Fedzilla is trampling upon both views of our Rights. The current GOPe sure isn’t helping matters....


29 posted on 01/06/2013 8:21:05 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: i_robot73

libertarian “purists” would allow kiddie porn to be legal, does this jive with Christianity at all?

of course not.


30 posted on 01/06/2013 8:36:38 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: HangnJudge

Yes, his blog is instapundit.com and is always an interesting read.


31 posted on 01/06/2013 8:47:53 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Yup
But what the heck is Libertarian Transhumanism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_transhumanism


32 posted on 01/06/2013 8:58:12 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge

Another wacky Libertarian at work! Lol! I think their into bioengineering humans or somesuch.


33 posted on 01/06/2013 9:05:45 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Oklahoma

Libertarians are not social conservatives, Christians are.


34 posted on 01/06/2013 9:16:25 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Amberdawn

You implied that Libertarians weren’t or couldn’t be Christians which isn’t true. The statement “Many Christians that I know are also democrats/socialists.” is as meaningless in this context as your statement that Libertarians are anti-Christian.


35 posted on 01/07/2013 2:05:50 AM PST by Oklahoma
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To: ansel12

I know plenty of Christians that have voted for ultra-leftists over and over. Not all Christians are social conservatives and not all Libertarians are libertines. Perhaps you confuse the terms.

Once again I consider myself a Christian Libertarian and also a traditionalist Constitutionalist that most folks on this forum, if they knew me personally, would consider to be a social conservative.


36 posted on 01/07/2013 2:14:48 AM PST by Oklahoma
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To: Talisker

You just went and encouraged him.


37 posted on 01/07/2013 4:16:53 AM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: Talisker

38 posted on 01/07/2013 4:43:13 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: grumpa

lemmee see if i gots this straight..

we christians have our freedom guaranteed to us by the constitution..

we also have taken up an obligation to live by his word..

yet, we as christians cannot be trusted to live by his word..

therefore, we need more government intervention into our lives to ensure we live by the word, under penalty of law???

totaltarian is as totaltarian does, regardless of which side of the political spectrum it comes from..


39 posted on 01/07/2013 4:48:54 AM PST by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: GeronL

Straw man, unless you can show any discussion, thought or voice to confirm that statement.

No Libertarian believes anything of the sort, children are under the age of consent and contractual obligations.


40 posted on 01/07/2013 5:38:14 AM PST by i_robot73
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