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Can the Republican party survive any more McConnell-brokered deals?
powerline ^ | 1-2-13 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 01/02/2013 5:14:37 AM PST by TurboZamboni

Mitch McConnell has many virtues as a legislator. Unfortunately, brokering deals advantageous to Republicans is not one of them.

McConnell’s defenders will say that his most recent deal was the best any Republican could do under the circumstances. Perhaps. But this defense ignores the fact that it was McConnell’s prior deal — the one creating the “fiscal cliff” — that established these adverse circumstances.

Let’s step back and consider the impact of McConnell’s deals on the valiant effort of House Republicans in 2011 to use the debt-ceiling to attack the debt. So far, the results are as follows: (1) the debt ceiling was raised, (2) the debt continued to soar, (3) the latest McConnell-brokered deal will increase, rather than decrease, the debt, and (4) taxes are about to go up.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: cliff; deal; fail; taxes
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1 posted on 01/02/2013 5:14:45 AM PST by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

These are Romney’s people.

They are in it for the money, and for Soros and Obama.
McConnell is a political judas like Scott Brown


2 posted on 01/02/2013 5:18:07 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Diogenesis

Thank God my congressman voted against the crap samich.

Meanwhile the media has already started beating up on the GOP for “Denying Sandy victims the help they need”.


3 posted on 01/02/2013 5:22:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TurboZamboni

Forgetting party labels, there are two groups of people in America at this point - Socialists and Conservative Tradionalists.

The Dems represent the Socialists - VERY WELL.

The GOP has a foot in BOTH camps and represents NEITHER AT ALL WELL.

Its time for th GOP to GO AWAY. Let the Socialist GOP members join the Rats and let everyone else become ANOTHER POLITICAL PARTY without the baggage of the GOP.

Last night’s vote was DISGRACEFUL!!!!


4 posted on 01/02/2013 5:25:01 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: TurboZamboni

The GOP is already terminally ridden with multiple diseases. Exactly which illness kills it is irrelevant.


5 posted on 01/02/2013 5:26:53 AM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: ZULU

Bring on that third party. I will join in a flash.


6 posted on 01/02/2013 5:28:01 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Many in here say a third party cannot win, Hell, What have we won for the last few years anyway?

Might as well join a party that at least puts up a fight instead of folding up at every turn.

The republican party as it stands is not my party any longer, and it looks like it isn’t going to change any time soon.


7 posted on 01/02/2013 5:30:32 AM PST by Venturer
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To: TurboZamboni

Republican party survive?

It died a long time ago. It is like a 2013 Mustang. The ONLY thing it has in common with the 1965 model is the name.

This is literally how I see it.


8 posted on 01/02/2013 5:30:53 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Venturer
Bring on that third party. I will join in a flash.

Sure. Call it the RACIST party. If you don't, they will, like they've done to the Tea Party.

9 posted on 01/02/2013 5:38:10 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Venturer

Its hard to start a third party, but at this point, the Tea Party has the framework for one. It just has to do what it can to get established and convince conservative Tea Party backed GOP members to join.

Its the only way.

Initally, it will lead to more Rat victories as this new party battles it out with the GOP.

But it HAS to be done.

As last night’s vote demonstrated and Boehner’s capitualtion on Obamacare demonstrated, and the farcical campaign Romney ran demonstrated, we have no choice.

The RINOs leave us no alternative at this point.


10 posted on 01/02/2013 5:42:15 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: ZULU

We need a TEA party march on GOP Headquarters


11 posted on 01/02/2013 5:44:50 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, dammed lies, statistics, and democrap talking points.)
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To: TurboZamboni

How can you Republicans let obama do this to you? Do you know what this makes you? Easy pickins’!! You were sent there to work for the people.... does this ever cross your minds?


12 posted on 01/02/2013 5:52:52 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: ZULU

As you say it will take time to get big enough to win, perhaps we will never win—————————————————————————— but what are we winning now?

At least show some friggin fight.

Too many Republicans are going into the Senate and the House with their pants down, bent over, and spread cheeks.

I ask myself do I really want to belong to a party run by Boehner, McConnell, McCain , Graham, and others of their liberal ilk?

I want to go to the polls and vote for someone I want to win, not some Quisling a-hole picked by RINO’s.


13 posted on 01/02/2013 5:59:32 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

NOW is the time for a 3rd party... but we’ve sent conservatives to Washington before and they end up like the rest there. NOW is the time for term limits. SOMEHOW we have to find a way to get that to happen. They won’t vote for it, so have to figure out a way for the people to demand it, to fix congress from the outside in.


14 posted on 01/02/2013 6:00:39 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: showme_the_Glory

Being called the Racist party doesn’t bother me a bit.

Aren’t you just a little tired of the race card being played.?


15 posted on 01/02/2013 6:02:31 AM PST by Venturer
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To: frnewsjunkie

There is nothing more useless than a professional politican.

We DO need term limits and we need to get rid of lawyers in politics.

There should be a law that any new law written has to be understandable to the 5th. grade education level reader we are graduating from todays High Schools.


16 posted on 01/02/2013 6:05:31 AM PST by Venturer
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To: TurboZamboni; HerrBlucher; mgist; raptor22; victim soul; Isabel2010; Smokin' Joe; Michigander222; ..

Some good came out of this:

1 - Mo more “temporary” tax rates that “expire”
2 - Capital gains rates locked in at a rate of 20% or less.
3 - A permanent Estate Tax rate and minimum in very good territory

Rather than join the herd and moan, I am going to look at the details, listen and watch what happens over the next few months. The fight is far from over.


17 posted on 01/02/2013 6:08:45 AM PST by narses
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Aren’t you just a little tired of the race card being played.?

Yes, but being tired of it hasn't changed it one bit. I personally couldn't care less what they call me. I do think that whatever we (conservatives) do going forward, we will be marginalized as they have the Tea Party, or, as they have the GOP. Nothing but racisists that are for the rich.

18 posted on 01/02/2013 6:37:58 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: narses
1 - Mo more “temporary” tax rates that “expire”

Until the new or some future Congress decides to establish one.

2 - Capital gains rates locked in at a rate of 20% or less.

Until the new or some future Congress decides to raise it

3 - A permanent Estate Tax rate and minimum in very good territory

Until the new or some future Congress decides to change it.

19 posted on 01/02/2013 6:45:41 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Roccus

Of course, but no more “cliff” games. Obama is going to make “permanent” 98% of the Bush tax regime.

Next, the debt limit with a new Congress. Spending comes next now that taxes are dealt with.


20 posted on 01/02/2013 6:58:46 AM PST by narses
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To: frnewsjunkie

“NOW is the time for term limits.”

California has Term Limits, not enough.


21 posted on 01/02/2013 6:59:42 AM PST by narses
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To: narses
Of course, but no more “cliff” games.....Spending comes next now that taxes are dealt with.

You can't seriously believe either of those statements.

22 posted on 01/02/2013 7:07:57 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Venturer

The republican party has not stood for a number of years.

They prefer their knees it seems.

I didn’t leave the party. It left me.


23 posted on 01/02/2013 7:25:45 AM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: showme_the_Glory

I am not so sure the Tea Party is marginalised.

If they start a third party I will sign up the next day


24 posted on 01/02/2013 7:57:27 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Roccus

I do. The GOP pwnd Obama. God bless them.


25 posted on 01/02/2013 6:02:37 PM PST by narses
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To: narses

That’s just sad.


26 posted on 01/02/2013 8:26:05 PM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: TurboZamboni
Can the Republican party survive any more McConnell-brokered deals?

Without a Tea Party-acceptable Speaker of the House tomorrow, it may not survive THIS one.

27 posted on 01/02/2013 8:31:31 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Venturer

Marginalized according to current polling. They have absolutely been marginalized.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2975802/posts


28 posted on 01/07/2013 1:15:50 PM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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