Skip to comments.STICK TO YOUR GUNS
Posted on 12/28/2012 11:53:32 AM PST by SENTINEL
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I thought it would happen by now, even at election time, that someone from the other side would say, “uncle”, on Obama. All along, I did know it would take democrats to get us out of this. Now it seems even our military are overtaken, reeducated, demilitarized—that we’re on our own. No one to reverse course. Even Feinstein, with an occassional brain, drives liberty further from decent Americans. Furhers everywhere.
I certainly hope you’re right. We are starving for leadership, with trust and confidence. God be with us all. Rita
One of the important things to work with is the problem of having a registered weapon. We have already seen addresses of gun owners posted, we may see this escalate nationwide.
I had one registered rifle, I say I had.
But its still in a database somewhere and eventually someone will come around asking, or a neighborhood mob will.
I think Obama is whipping up a mob frenzy and is working to get the anti-gun crowd bold enough to do the job for him, thats my prediction for 2013.
You entirely correct. I was astonished when Bob McDonnell, the "conservative" governor of Virginia, thought it was OK to use drones for law enforcement. Our freedoms and privacy are being taken away at an unheard of rate.
Wilco. Well done.
Drones? Very easy to disable with a device costing less than today’s price of an AR-15.
They are just a pest for now, and allowed to fly about unchallenged. When the time comes, they will prove as ineffective as hot air balloons.
That’s a relief. Never heard that before, that they were manageable, but considering one never sees them coming, that explains that. Given the size shrinking, drones will be indistinguishable from locust, soon.
Not to worry. :/
Force multiplier is loyalty. I have no doubt our military will not be effective in any internal conflict. Only the bootlicking fags will follow an order to fire on Americans. Every military person I know, I know many, have made it clear they will not follow those orders.
I think that Obama plans to use the Blue Helmets. Isn’t that why he signed the executive orders to allow UN troops on American soil in case he decides to call for a state of Emergency?
Maybe 0bama will bring over all those Africans now being trained in counterterrorism by our guys. Or the Benghazi AQ. Or the Taliban.
Yeh, somehow I don’t think he’ll be calling for help from the Marines or the rest of the Military, other than a few hand picked lackeys if he can find them.
Hmm. I was extra careful not to do anything to end up with a double or triple post, but still did. Maybe it’s due to the length of the TO list?
How easy to Disable??
Very slow but real high,,
Again to all, I have an HTML ready version I can deliver by email to anyone willing to post this on other sites. Freepmail me.
Bravo Zulu Sentinel!
Not so fast ...
"Them" includes oath-breaking agents of the IRS, DEA, HHS, Marshalls service, Secret Service, State Police, local police, county sheriffs, and others ... including National Guard and regular Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps. Some will disobey orders ... but not all.
Worse, "They" will also have working for them a very sophisticated and almost ubiquitous propaganda machine composed of ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, PBS, and numerous newspapers large and small.
Don't underestimate the enemy.
Thank you!! Bump for more in-depth study.
Pitting these two forces against each other would be travesty, a disaster, and allow common criminals to run rampant -> chaos -> anarchy. The nation-wide economic disruption/losses, property destruction, and human death toll would be staggering.
Ready. Able. Waiting...
You apparently did not read my heavily researched article. I addressed all of this. The onyl thing I underestimated was the “us” side, which again I explain in detail.
I did read your article.
I think your article is dangerously naive.
Well crouch down and lick the hands that feed you then.
Some of us have those toyz too. Heck, some of “them” are “us”.
Further, we have home field advantage and a cause worth dying for.
So no, I don’t think that number changes nearly as much as you might think.
That is easily the stupidest reply I have ever seen on this forum.
Review your study of elementary logic.
Do it twice, just to be sure ...
Then re-read our little exchange ...
If you understand logic at all, you'll be so thoroughly ashamed of having posted #77 that you'll beg the mods to delete it.
Never forget that.
The Second Amendment defines for the United States of America the exact nature of the relationship between the citizens and those they have have chosen to govern them.
I reread and stand by what I said.
What are you an oathbreaking fed trying to further demoralize the troops ? Chris Matthews in disguise ?...
Perhaps if you ponder THAT you'll realize the damage your doing and shut your suck.
Alternatively, "they" are amongst "us" ...
Either way, sorting friend from foe from indifferent is going to be interesting.
What it’s not hard to sort is who is HELPING with the current psychological warfare attack we are under, and who is trying to COUNTER it.
Don’t bother butting heads with this statist moron.
BTW, for anyone interested:
I am also capable of reasoning ... and understand the logical fallacy known as the "excluded middle". Do you even know what that means?
I reread and stand by what I said.
I'm not surprised.
shut your suck.
Wow ... that's really impressive. I'm not kissing your ass, so I must be worthless and should siddown and shaddup.
Your reaction to my comments really betrays the weakness of your original post.
Once again, DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE YOUR ENEMY.
It's going to be no matter what happens. There is no way out of this but the hard way.
It's a hell of a lot easier to fight against "just following orders" than it is to fight against "Live free or Die".
Good, target rich environment.
I reread and stand by what I said.
I'm not surprised.
shut your suck.
Yes I do. You are assuming that because I went straight from your questioning of my numbers to accusing you of "crouching" I do not understand logic.
What you fail to understand is that not only do I understand logic, I understand men's hearts. When afraid, when uncertain, when under psychological attack like now, they look for leaders. They look for courage. They look for facts. I wrote this with all of this in mind, trying to set a strategic tone in an effort to secure peace. I put my real name on it. You, with your petty tactical thinking are aiding the propaganda machine you warned me about !
I hope you wipe the wine and cheese off your rules of logic book before heading out to battle with it....
I did not trust them.
I do not trust you.
Your inability or unwillingness to rationally discuss dissenting viewpoints and your brittleness in the face of criticism are very disturbing.
Your position is very weak. Your estimates of forces on both sides are completely arbitrary and unsupported; it reminds me of Japanese planning for Midway. Your section "what about the military" appears to be based on 'feelings', and completely ignores currency of skills, availability of gear, or segregation of likely dissenters from sure loyalists.
You show absolutely no confidence in the worth of your analysis. If you had such confidence, you would be arguing your point, defending your analysis, further explaining your reasoning.
Instead, you are attacking me personally.
I'd suggest very strongly that if you want to contribute something worthwhile to the cause of freedom, you should check your attitude, learn how to discuss matters rationally, and quit alienating allies.
Your move, son.
People like that make me nuts too- but man, you said it! I WILKL be using that in the future
You are assuming
No, I am not.
What you fail to understand
I understand far more than you realize
not only do I understand logic, I understand men's hearts.
That's a huge steaming pile of self-serving drivel.
PM on it’s way.
Great work! Post of the year!
Nothing was arbitrary or based on feelings, it was all referenced to historical events as well as numbers.
Perhaps what I need to be asking you is how many times throught history, the "rules of logic" have won battles for freedom ? Stopped Democide ? How many lawyers overtook machine gun nests at Normandy Beach with superior debating skills ?
Let us also not forget, that our God is still God. The God who had his pick of all the Lawyers in the land, yet chose little David to slay Goliath.
Those who do not read are no better off than those who cannot read. (as long as you can run, shoot too...for any arrogant lawyers who may be lurking)
I will address your points openly, however.
1) I don't really care who or what you think you're 'encouraging' by making wild-eyed unsupported estimates of "us" and "them". Lots of folks did that before CW-I ... you're making the same mistake they did. I recommend against it.
2) I didn't "ask" you about equipment, I stated flat out that you were ignoring the topic.
3a) I don't claim to be a smart guy. I may or may not be one, but I make no claims.
3b) I am not a lawyer.
3c) I'm not sure what sort of 'drift' you think you get. Really. Don't over-think this, I'm NOT playing games.
3d) I am not a fed.
3e) I am not trying to trick you or anyone else. Again, I'm not playing games. I just don't do that.
3f) I do not wish to see you or any other patriot get arrested.
I do wish to see patriots use their brains. That includes being willing to discuss matters rationally, and to address criticism without personal attacks.
You claim to be a Marine. Fine; I'll assume that's true for the moment. You are forgetting that your audience (which includes me) is not composed of PFCs under your command.
"Shut your suck" may work in the squad bay; it most assuredly DOES NOT work out here in the real world.
All further correspondence will be carried out on thread; any further PM from you on this topic WILL be copied, in its entirety, on thread.
Right ... and just as destructive. Maybe more destructive; there's more to destroy.
Don't over-estimate your enemy either.
Good advice. Also, don't under-estimate yourself.
I'm not claiming that there are more armed tyrants than there are armed patriots, BTW. My first claim is that the ratio does not favor the patriots as much as the article asserts. My second claim is that the tyrants enjoy an advantage of organization, logistics, and propaganda apparatus that the author seems to ignore. My third claim is that deluding ourselves does nobody any good.
The Confederate States of America were absolutely certain of that.
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