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STICK TO YOUR GUNS
28 Dec 12 | Justin Giles

Posted on 12/28/2012 11:53:32 AM PST by SENTINEL

Stick To Your Guns
Justin Giles, Sergeant US Marine Corps (former)

Imagine you are walking through the woods on a dark cloudy night. You are startled by a vicious, snarling beast concealed in the blackness. Not knowing what else to do you scramble up a tree, afraid and unsure what to do next.

This is a natural human response to an encounter with an unknown foe. Because of this weak human tendency, military commanders throughout history have studied their potential enemies in minute detail. One man who understood this well was 6th Century B.C. Chinese General Sun Tzu.

“It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.” -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Following the horrible crime in Connecticut, there is a lot of talk by oath breakers about curtailing freedom. Marxists calling themselves Democrats and liberals calling themselves Republicans have made it clear, “They” intend to disarm “Us”.

From the left side I hear cries for confiscation, and from the right I hear “Molon Labe”. To suggest that this could not lead to civil war is to ignore history. War is an ugly thing, so in the interest of peace I wish to help “Them” understand “Us” and vice-versa.

Cold Hard Numbers: “Us”

Estimates from various sources, from liberal to conservative , have the number of privately owned firearms in the United States in the vicinity of 300 million. Countless polls estimate these weapons are owned by around 47% of US households, or about 54 million. (47% of 114,761,359 households per US Census http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html)

The 2011 US Census shows a population of 311.6 million.
(http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html)

The 1775 population of the 13 colonies including slaves and Native Americans was around 2.4 million.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteen_colonies)

At the height of the revolutionary war in 1779, there were 35,000 Continental Soldiers and Marines, 44,500 militia and 5000 Continental Sailors fighting for freedom, for a total of 84,000 colonist men. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_war) This gave us an active combatant ratio of 3.5% of the population. This ratio was smaller during the earlier stages of the war, and once this and the 12,000 late arriving French troops are taken into account, the overall generally accepted 3% figure is derived.

3% of our population today equals 9.35 million, and this is only part of the story. I could make a very strong case that due to the fact that we today have a large standing army, and in colonial days they did not, the percentage of active combatants in any future resistance to disarmament would double or more. There are currently around 10 million oath-bound military veterans in the US between the ages of 22 and 50, many of them combat vets. (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html) I will leave this case for another time, because 3% is enough. Here are some quick numbers for comparison from the Federation of American Scientists.

3% US population 9.35 million

Chinese Military (active) 2.25 million

Russian Military (active) .96 million

US Military (active) 1.46 million

So, we are 9.35 million, but who are we ?

-We are overwhelmingly Christian, and worship the God of David, Elijah and Samson.
(http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-americans-77-christian-06-muslim)

-We dominate the military and veteran ranks.

-We are competitive shooters, hunters, outdoorsmen, fishermen, ATV and dirt bike riders.

-We are fathers and husbands, sons and grandsons of the generations who won the world wars.

-We are law abiding citizens who have been sold into slavery with a national debt so big it would take a tax increase, per household, the size and duration of a mortgage to pay off.

-We work in law enforcement, City, State and Federal. “We” are deeply among “Them”.

-We are 9.35 million men with battle rifles, not armed because we are free, but free because we are armed.

Cold Hard Numbers: “Them”

During the disarmament trial runs at Waco and Ruby Ridge, it was the ATF and FBI that bravely lead the charge against vicious women and children. Any future enforcement of new federal disarmament laws would be carried out by oath breaking members of these two agencies. Let’s break it down.

BATF (2006) 4,559 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BATF)

FBI 36,074 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fbi)

This gives us a total of 40633. There could be hidden within other agencies additional groups of oath breakers who may be used for disarmament. Because I am working toward a ratio, and I used what I believe to be a 50% low estimate on the “Us” column, I will not add an estimate for additional feds on the “Them” side. Don’t forget that “We” are deeply among “Them”, and “They” live among “Us”.

9,350,000 / 40633 = 230.1

“We” have “Them” outnumbered by >230:1.

Now that both parties have a proper perspective on things let us continue the conversation with the levels of respect and confidence due.

What about the military ?

There are differing opinions about this, most having a valid basis. I will lump local and state law enforcement into this portion of the discussion. I believe that at a local level, you could see almost anything happen militarily in the hypothetical case of resistance to disarmament. On a strategic nationwide level, unlawful orders to disarm the American populace would cause a stalemate within the military. Such unlawful orders would be carried out by some and opposed with force by others at levels from individual to division. Debilitating acts of sabotage both of covert and overt nature, at all branches and levels within the service, would skyrocket.

The US military, by and large, is comprised of citizens of the states and areas most likely to resist disarmament by force. This is the point in the discussion to consider the nation’s considerable veteran population. There are around 10 million veterans in the US between the ages of 22 and 50. We are most concentrated in the areas most likely to resist disarmament. We are the fathers and brothers of many active duty military members. We are armed. We are trained and experienced tankers, pilots, medics, infantrymen and Special Forces Operators. For every Ranger or Marine on active duty, there are as many as 7 armed veterans of fighting age with the exact same skill and training on the civilian side.

Splits within the military in the US happened during the Civil War, and even during the Roosevelt administration. General George McArthur took bribe money and signed on with a group of globalists to overthrow the US Government by force. US Marine Smedley Butler, when approached by the same group, went undercover and gathered information which he took straight to congress. Butler single handedly saved the nation in the most covered up piece of US History of all time. Read “The Plot To Seize the White House” by Jules Archer or “Devil Dog” by David Talbot for more information on this.

When an oath breaking Marxist who throws like a girl gives an order to an oath keeping Marine from Houston to shoot an oath keeping Former Marine from Houston because he won’t disarm, what do you think will happen ? Every active duty officer, sworn to uphold and defend the US Constitution from domestic enemies should think on that long and hard. Although localized actions of all types are likely, I predict strategic level stalemate.

Visualization of 230:1

Now back to that walk in the woods and the snarling beast in the dark. Hopefully the truth has thrown enough illumination your way to see that you’ve been treed by a Chihuahua. Imagine a 230 pound man versus a 1 pound purse dog.

Picture a large football stadium, completely sold out. The crowd versus those on the field and sidelines is about a 230:1 ratio.

Imagine a head on collision between a sport bike and a fully loaded 18 wheeler. That is a 230:1 weight ratio.

Take an ice cube from your freezer and hit it with an Oxy-Acetylene torch. That is a 230:1 temperature ratio.

Take heart, free Americans, our Founding Fathers have got your back.

Is this really worth fighting over ?

According to Professor Emeritus of Political Science at the University of Hawaii R.J. Rummel, totalitarian governments, mainly Marxist, killed 262 million of their own citizens during the 20th century. That unimaginable number is easier to grasp if one visualizes 10 million Sandy Hook Massacres. These are flat out murders of noncombatants, an act Rummel has labeled “Democide”. I highly recommend his excellent book “Death By Government”, and a study of the information on his website from which I have borrowed the following charts.

This is the kind of thing our founders wanted us armed with battle rifles to prevent. Forget the talk of the types conspicuously absent at places like Lexington Green and Normandy Beach. Lawyers, commentary, debate, or politicians have never granted liberty, nor stopped Democide.

This unprecedented murder is not an unfortunate side effect of Marxism, but the intent. One murderer of 77 million innocent men, women and children understood the importance of arms.

-“Every Communist must grasp the truth: Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

-“Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party.”

-“A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery. It cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another.” Mao Zedong, The Little Red Book, 1964

It is not necessary to impute the actions of foreigners onto the Marxist movement in the US, they have been caught red handed ! Bill Ayers of 60’s Weather Underground fame, avowed Marxist and admitted murderer, held in his home a coffee “meet and greet” for Obama during his campaign for a vacant Illinois State Senate seat. Ayers and his cohorts set off dozens of bombs in the 60’s and 70’s, including one in the US Capitol building.

Here is an interview with an FBI agent who was undercover with Ayer’s “Weather Underground” during a discussion about slaughtering 25 million Americans and imprisoning many more in re-education camps.

2 Minute interview with FBI agent

Obama in his own book, “Dreams of My Father” admitted his leanings.

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

Obama’s appointments of Van Jones, John Holdren and dozens of others are right in line with his Marxist beliefs. Of course he will lie about it, of course he will mock, it is the “Alynsky” way, but numbers and history do not lie.

I do not waste my time on any other irrelevant “gun rights” arguments. 20th CENTURY DEMOCIDE IS ENOUGH !

Although the Democide numbers have been revised upward to 262 million since these final three charts from Rummel were published, they still give a good visualization to just how dangerous Marxist government is.

There is much talk and worry recently of a “Fiscal Cliff”. In my opinion we stepped off that, as a nation, long ago. All that is left is the sudden stop at the end of the long fall. What we should all be much more concerned with is the “Freedom Cliff”. We stand at the edge with a Chihuahua trying to scare us into jumping. The time is now to prevent Democide in America. One small step and it is all over.

History has warned us, in the same way God warned Samson, not to give up the secret to our power. We’ve listened to the Chihuahua again and again and every time she has worked for our destruction.

The God given right to own battle rifles, as enumerated in the 2nd Amendment, is enough to make the difference between a “Tianenmen Square” and a “Lexington Green”.

I have seen war. I pray for peace, but if forced I will chose the left column of this final chart over the right without hesitation. What Christian could not ? I understand Chihuahuas are allergic to combat boots.

230:1. Brothers, STICK TO YOUR GUNS !



TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
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To: stevie_d_64
our government was shortsided in how to address such low-tech and un-conventional adversaries for the longest time...


161 posted on 01/03/2013 12:43:13 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The best thing in life & the hardest thing in life is watching your children grow up.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I think quite a few of the force multipliers will be found in the hands of the civilian forces because of armory keys being turned over to them without a fight. Local enforcers will be eliminated one by one as they usually do have to return HOME!I really think they would not want any harm done to loved ones.


162 posted on 01/03/2013 1:53:06 PM PST by Renegade
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To: SENTINEL

Forgive me if this has already been addressed, (I have not read every response) but what we all need to do is make a pact with 2nd amendment supporters in our area.

It would go something like this. “If you are facing arrest or seige by any that would deny your 2nd amendment rights I will show up and help you defend that right.”

Groups of 20 to 30 or even 100’s adhearing to this pact would help any one of us from feeling alone when the “chihuahuas” call.

If the “chihuahuas” never call we simply expand our network of likeminded friends.


163 posted on 01/03/2013 2:06:54 PM PST by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“That 230:1 ratio does NOT take into account the shear numbers of force multipliers available to Them. All manor of electronic surveillance. Night vision hardware. Infrared visual surveillance equipment. Body armor and armored vehicles. Grenades of every imaginable variety and yield. Not to mention the best and highest caliber weapons on the planet.”

I just downloaded and read an Army Field Manual on Sabotage. You know, for historical purposes... Written for WWII, I think.

Cut down telegraph lines. Stuff like that, that is out of date today.

As I read it, I thought as you have, about electronic surveillance, IR, drones, etc.

On the other hand, the taliban has methods they use against our troops.


164 posted on 01/03/2013 9:55:49 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Honk Honk - I am the Goose that laid the Golden Eggs - and I have tightened the sphincter! ....)
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To: appalachian_dweller

“Compare Hitler and Obama. Hitler rose to power by blaming eveyone’s problems and a specific group of people, the Jews. Fast forward to Obama, he blames everyone’s problems on the rich and on conservatives.”

I remember a PBS special about Genocide. The author’s dad had survived German camps, and that motivated him to study the issue. He covered about 5 different countries/situations I think. One common factor was to demonize a specific group, and blame them, and make them a target for everyone - shazam.


165 posted on 01/03/2013 10:25:33 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Honk Honk - I am the Goose that laid the Golden Eggs - and I have tightened the sphincter! ....)
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To: SENTINEL

“Almost as good as 223:1.”

I’ll call you and raise you one with my 7.62x39...


166 posted on 01/04/2013 6:34:27 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Finny; SENTINEL; b9; Windflier; Colonel_Flagg; All

“The only thing they have more of than us is talking heads in pop culture and the MSM.”

‘Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me!’


167 posted on 01/04/2013 6:41:11 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Finny

Happy New Year to you :)


168 posted on 01/04/2013 7:07:40 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Gritty

“If 67 wasn’t too old for our ancestors, it isn’t too old for many of us, either.”

Nor is that plus 10...count me in!


169 posted on 01/04/2013 7:35:25 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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mark


170 posted on 01/04/2013 7:57:57 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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bttt


171 posted on 01/04/2013 8:06:26 AM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: SENTINEL

Your outline is precisely why the confrontation of forced physical collection of civilian weapons will be avoided by big-brother. What is the more likely route is to simply set deadlines for compliance and when registered guns are not humbly submitted to the overlords, one has a $10,000 fine simply removed electronically from checking, savings, securities, or wage garnishment. Fines would increase incrementally until all funds were taken. Arrests would be made on a small scale and widely published by the corrupt old media in a light unfavorable to the “right-wing killers.” Do you think government has pondered using lawsuits to put ammo makers and gun makers out of business? I guarantee it.


172 posted on 01/04/2013 10:50:02 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: going hot

I have my reservations...Let me clarify, I did no tmean the Vietnamese forces as a whole...

The regular NVA forces were, from what I recall reading and hearing about were fairly reasonable to detect, engage and defeat on a conventional level...They of course were not pushovers either, we were fighting them on their own turf...

The VC, you would probably agree are a different story...Very unconventional, hard to detect, and deal with, other than in a reactionary sense...

But, in the context of this thread, I believe “we” wil not see a foriegn force come in to quell our dissagreement with those that oppose us...But I am sure some here would argue that just because it fits a kind of mindset that I would consider to be a little distracted...And their opinion is important to me and others as well...I foriegn force would cause an “all in” from our side of the equation, and be similar to what the VC did to us over there, as far as the techniques, engagement tempo and other factors...

I meant more of the VC type issue in my previous post...

Again, this is just my opinion...


173 posted on 01/07/2013 7:40:08 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: SENTINEL; RitaOK

“A drone does not exist in and of itself, it is the culmination of a very long chain of events, each susceptible to pistols and rifles. Even during use it can be brought down with even a single shot from a 22.”

A good story (true in its essential details, so far as I know) came out of WW2 to illustrate this point. Josif Tito (later Marshall Tito) was the leader of the largest Yugoslavian partisan resistance movement against the Germans. He was once asked, “How will your men, armed with old rifles, defeat the Wehrmacht, armed with new Panzers?” His response was illuminating, from the standpoint of tactical brilliance: “When the Germans get out of their new Panzers to take a piss, my men will shoot them with their old rifles.” Note that Tito’s partisans took some 20 divisions of Wehrmacht and SS troops out of the fight for much of the war...evidence that his tactics worked quite well.

There are many variations on that theme which will work inthe modern era. Even 100-year-old bolt action rifles are quite lethal, and there are LOTS of them available. The same weapon used to commit the first recorded murder (a rock) is still just as lethal. We are a toolmaking species - and all of the tools invented in our long history are available - rocks, sharpened sticks, spears, bows & arrows, crossbows, poisons, black powder rifles, center- and rim-fired weapons by the legion, mines, knives, etc. All can be made, and all will be used if necessary.


174 posted on 01/07/2013 8:41:05 AM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: Ancesthntr; SENTINEL

I certainly appreciate your point. Should they be used against the 2A citizens, the hope is to see them coming. The eventual size of locust is not optimal, it seems to me, but there can be an antidote for most everything. I just don’t happen to know what it would be in this case. Thx. Some may. Wink, wink.


175 posted on 01/07/2013 3:50:46 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: SENTINEL

I just saw this. Thank you for posting.

My Wife survived the Pol-Pot killings in a starvation camp, given 1 tablespoon of Rice A WEEK. Living on the run in a jungle for 4 months. Stepping over dead bodies, and so much more.

Anyway, she has been in the US for 22 years now, a strong & proud US Citizen, a total Conservative and loves the real USA.

We’re sticking to our guns. I got great back-up. :-)


176 posted on 01/22/2013 3:41:26 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: SENTINEL

Epic.
Thanks for the perspective.
I choose the left column, too.


177 posted on 01/23/2013 12:27:18 PM PST by ryan71
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

God has truly blessed her to survive Pol Pot. Hopefully we can all survive the Ayers/Obama cabal.


178 posted on 01/24/2013 11:36:10 AM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: EdReform

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179 posted on 01/24/2013 1:06:57 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: SENTINEL

bump for later


180 posted on 01/24/2013 5:23:13 PM PST by johnsmom (I must be dreaming 'cause this can't be real)
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