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Can GOP win another presidential election after Romney's loss to Obama?
Bayoubuzz.com ^ | November 20, 2012 | Bayoubuzz Staff

Posted on 11/20/2012 12:54:08 PM PST by Marketfly1

Can the GOP win another Presidential election after its candidate Mitt Romney lost against President Obama?

While that was not the question raised by a recent poll and a discussion of that poll by a well-respected pollster, the issue can reasonably be asked by those reviewing the numbers.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: election; gop; obama; romney
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1 posted on 11/20/2012 12:54:22 PM PST by Marketfly1
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To: Marketfly1

No.

But there’s still value to the GOP fielding candidates, if for nothing else to give voice to those down-ticket.

But as far as winning the Presidency outright... no. The demographic and class-warfare tipping points have been passed.


2 posted on 11/20/2012 12:59:09 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Marketfly1

No. Because of massive voter fraud and the GOP’s willingness to let it slide. We, as a country, are %#@#&^. Libs who voted for this will realize the error of their ways soon.


3 posted on 11/20/2012 1:01:06 PM PST by albie
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To: ScottinVA

If we couldn’t beat Barack Hussein Obama, the biggest failure ever to occupy the White House, then we cant beat anyone. Now that the parasites outnumber the producers, the demographic die is cast. Welcome to Socialism. Welcome to Slavery.

Anyone ever get the feeling that it was all a big show, and that the Democrats and Republicans are all part of the same corrupt system that wants to destroy our liberty?


4 posted on 11/20/2012 1:01:56 PM PST by Astronaut
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To: Marketfly1

Not with a CINO at the top of the ticket.


5 posted on 11/20/2012 1:04:43 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Astronaut
Agree with all of the above.

Wait until they here what happens at tax time with AMT, etc etc. CPA's etc are freaking because they don't have answers for their clients...

6 posted on 11/20/2012 1:05:47 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Astronaut

The GOP will never win another election unless they somehow rein in the negotiating rights of the public sector unions.


7 posted on 11/20/2012 1:06:07 PM PST by Eva
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To: Marketfly1

Here is my thoughts in a nutshell. Republicans fight who is the perfect candidate and if they don’t get the perfect candidate they don’t want to vote. I am not sure if Ronald Reagan could win in 2012. Democrats
would vote for a steaming pile of dog crap if it had a “D” as the party designation.


8 posted on 11/20/2012 1:06:07 PM PST by Plumres
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To: Marketfly1

No - next question?


9 posted on 11/20/2012 1:06:27 PM PST by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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To: Marketfly1

It’s the right question to ask because Romney looked to be winning. The media tore down the right. Obama’s side committed irrefutable fraud. And the GOP is too divided to move on. All the issues that the party has had since 2005 have become even worse. Not only is the GOP-e not supporting conservatives and the tea party candidates and politicians, but the GOP is having problems finding people to unite the party every presidential election. The primary process stunk. The republicans are too weak to fight Obama. And we conservatives attack each others candidates and help out the GOP-E. Bad recipe to win with.

Have to create a new party and yes have a litmus test. And keep on fighting the media and start our own media like the Blaze.


10 posted on 11/20/2012 1:06:27 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Astronaut
Yes, and we are just collateral damage.

I suggest guillotines.

11 posted on 11/20/2012 1:11:16 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: Marketfly1

No!


12 posted on 11/20/2012 1:14:00 PM PST by muggs (Hope and Change = Hoax and Chains)
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To: Marketfly1

NOT unless the old, moderate dogs at the top of the GOP-E are silenced and removed.


13 posted on 11/20/2012 1:13:59 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: taildragger

I think we are done too. We are outnumbered.


14 posted on 11/20/2012 1:15:46 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Marketfly1

No, without a miracle no. The tipping point has been reached.


15 posted on 11/20/2012 1:16:17 PM PST by PeachyKeen
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To: albie

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You are absolutely correct.

We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America.
That’s what people fail to understand.

Col Allen West; “I don’t want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic.

Col West has opened the door.
It’s now up to We The People.

Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.

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Polls indicated that Romney was going to win the election. The economy is close to Great Depression era conditions, and unemployment is almost as high as when Obama entered office. Economic conditions became so dire after Obama took office it prompted the rise of an entire new movement, the Tea Party.
Presidents rarely win reelection when the economy is in the tank.
So how did Romney lose a race that numerous reputable polls and pundits predicted would be an easy win, based on historical patterns?
Massive voter fraud.

There are massive reports of criminal activity
(not mischief, not shenanigans, as many term the fraud- but CRIMINAL ACTIVITY) going on all over the U.S during the presidential election.
Reports of machines changing votes from Romney to Obama, eyewitness reports of Republican poll watchers who observed busloads of non-English speaking Somalians in Ohio being instructed to vote Obama- the list is endless.
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/

Romney lost because of this, not any other reason.
Nobody could have won against the fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama Machine.

The evidence is overwhelming!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/11/video-eyewitness-of-somali-muslim-voter-fraud-in-ohio-by-obama-camp.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-aVy_s76ZY
https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/404694619604138
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-stole-the-election/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LbOtYQceBxI-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hbf3iaEbAuY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmJtaOO2etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_rMpQKqZhM

http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/
http://newtgingrich360.com/profiles/blogs/obama-stole-the-election
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/election-fraud-obama-won-more-than-99-percent-of-the-vote-in-more-than-100-ohio-precincts
http://appalachianforums.com/forums/Dickenson_County,_Virginia.pl/md/read/id/255145
http://beforeitsnews.com/election-2012/2012/11/stolen-election-evidence-is-mounting-everything-points-to-stolen-votes-2446928.html
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/adding-up-the-evidence-to-a-stolen-election/
http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/11/allen-west-mitt-romney-and-the-massive-voter-fraud-machine/
http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-facts-figures
http://foxnewsinsider.com/tag/voter-fraud/
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/11/01/voter-fraud-is-no-myth-its-more-common-than-you-think/
http://thewillcountynews.com/?p=415
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4279497/obama-stole-election/
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/

Go to http://www.facebookcensorship.com and see the documentation of their censorship and harassment.
Bro. Winter Christian Bible teacher http://www.prime.org
http://www.barrysoetoro.net
.

What you can do:
.

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Visit these sites:
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/
http://thecompetentconservative.com/elections-have-not-yet-been-certified-heres-what-you-can-do/

Most of ‘Obama Voter Fraud’ activity is moving to FaceBook.
‘Obama Voter Fraud Volunteers
http://www.facebook.com/#!/ObamaVoterFraudVolunteers

‘Obama Voter Fraud’ on FaceBook-
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=488176621204089&set=a.488176614537423.110863.488173144537770&type=1&theater";-
Sign their petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, email
http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/
Another petition, The ‘We The People’ petition has 60,000 signatures and counting-
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recount-election/ZQmy0Mlv#thank-you=p

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http://theobamafile.com/indexArchive.html
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of Internet materials
http://theobamafile.com/LibraryOfCongress.html


16 posted on 11/20/2012 1:16:35 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: ScottinVA

NO.

But conservatives can win state races.


17 posted on 11/20/2012 1:17:21 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Marketfly1

At election time, we the voters think we're this:

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...when we're actually this:


18 posted on 11/20/2012 1:17:30 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: KeyLargo
NO. But conservatives can win state races.

Exactly. That's why the GOP needs to go through the motions of nominating someone who can at least articulate a message.

19 posted on 11/20/2012 1:19:45 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: azcap

2012 was the LAST Presidential election


20 posted on 11/20/2012 1:20:15 PM PST by molson209
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To: Marketfly1
Of course the GOP can win again. All the doom and gloom is crazy. Four years from now, you might be asking if the Democrats can win again.

Time passess. New interests, new issues and new alliances arise. The only thing you can be sure of is that the next election will be billed as the "most important election in our lifetime."

21 posted on 11/20/2012 1:20:15 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Marketfly1

Demographics are destiny....what more is there to day. Import 40 milliom poor, LEGAL immigrants into the USA since 1965 and people are surprised ? The left decided to replace the traditional American population & so it is done.


22 posted on 11/20/2012 1:20:27 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: Marketfly1

I don’t believe Romney “lost” to Obama. Obama took the election by busing in foreigners, loading the ballot box, etc. As long as evil is allowed to survive, then there’ll never be another GOP in office.


23 posted on 11/20/2012 1:20:27 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Marketfly1

Here’s a hint...don’t run a mormom when a big part of your party is evangelicals.


24 posted on 11/20/2012 1:21:05 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Ingtar

This. Nominate a conservative. :)


25 posted on 11/20/2012 1:21:09 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: Tau Food

It’s a cyclical thing, inevitably the Rats will overreach and it will tilt back in our direction. But next time the Republicans must simply do a better job than the last time the pendulum swung in their direction.


26 posted on 11/20/2012 1:23:23 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Marketfly1

No, not the current GOP wimps who don’t have the guts to stand up to voter fraud and to run someone who can bring back conservatives.


27 posted on 11/20/2012 1:25:30 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: molson209
2012 was the LAST Presidential election

There'll be future ones, but the GOP opposition will be token. They'll have all the suspense of a campaign for Maxine Waters' Congressional seat.

28 posted on 11/20/2012 1:25:38 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Marketfly1

Two conditions to be met:
1. Do not allow the liberal establishment to get away with mis-characterizing the folks that call themselves Tea Partiers.
2. Make certain that fraudulent voting is not allowed to be the ultimate decider.

If the Republican Party cannot subscribe to the Tea Partiers desires for lower Federal taxes and much less intrusion by the federal juggernaut in citizens’ lives, then it doesn’t deserve to exist.


29 posted on 11/20/2012 1:27:33 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: dfwgator
It’s a cyclical thing, inevitably the Rats will overreach

In the past, the pendulum would swing back, but the numbers aren't favorable to the GOP anymore. Nowadays, when dems overreach, Republicans are blamed.

30 posted on 11/20/2012 1:28:01 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Marketfly1

If they start stuffing ballot boxes now.....


31 posted on 11/20/2012 1:29:45 PM PST by deadrock
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To: Marketfly1

Not at the rate we’re going. Two main things, we need to eliminate all possibility of fraud, and we need to somehow defuse the abortion issue.


32 posted on 11/20/2012 1:30:21 PM PST by varmintman
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To: Marketfly1

Yes, if they run a candidate that is both a fiscal and social conservative.


33 posted on 11/20/2012 1:30:50 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Marketfly1

No. The combination of parasites, socialists and idiots now outnumber thinking self-responsible true Americans.


34 posted on 11/20/2012 1:32:30 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Astronaut
Anyone ever get the feeling that it was all a big show, and that the Democrats and Republicans are all part of the same corrupt system that wants to destroy our liberty?

No question. Two wings of the same bird of prey.

35 posted on 11/20/2012 1:32:36 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
We are outnumbered.

Are we? Who are the 90 million eligible to vote yet DID NOTE VOTE? Who are these people?

36 posted on 11/20/2012 1:37:29 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Marketfly1

Yes. Hubris will cause Obama to overplay his hand, and it will once again be off to the races.


37 posted on 11/20/2012 1:39:24 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Elsiejay

Unfortunately, those two conditions were not only NOT met; we lost decidedly on them.

In the next year or two, Obama and the democrats will sponsor a comprehensive immigration reform bill, meaning amnesty, and they will get support from the GOP-E in the House and Senate.

After the bill passes, the democrats will add millions of votes to their constituency.

We’re dead, Jim.


38 posted on 11/20/2012 1:40:01 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Marketfly1

Nope.


39 posted on 11/20/2012 1:44:58 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yup....a lot of people just don’t want to deal with this. We are in a different place with these new demographics than we have EVER been before. Forget past election cycles....they no longer apply.


40 posted on 11/20/2012 1:45:02 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: Tau Food

You are correct.

Perhaps what we should be asking is “Can a Conservative win ever win the GOP Nomination (much less the Presidency)?”

I think the center has been driven so far left that we don’t have a chance.


41 posted on 11/20/2012 1:45:27 PM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Marketfly1

Pubs have basically been stupid.

for decades, the liberals have infiltrated and taken over the education system and raised children to be wards of the state.

that’s why they fight school vouchers and the government allows government workers to unionize. that in itself is the recipe for destruction of the American way of life.

the communists/fascists have taken over the entertainment industry, and people look up to them, idolize them (sic) and give them legitimacy, even those that are dumber than striesand.

furthermore, we do not need middle of the roaders running for office, we do not need compromise, we need conquest. tea party fits the bill.

the next four years will be devastating for the country. end up a banana republic.

in the long term, the public has to be re-educated. the Constitution is not a bad thing. freedom is a good thing.

The Bill of Rights are a good thing.

if we are going to win, we have to adhere to right-wing conservative stands, not compromising with commies or fascists, and making the constrasts plain and simple to understand.

blessings, bobo


42 posted on 11/20/2012 1:47:22 PM PST by bobo1
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To: Marketfly1

Pubs have basically been stupid.

for decades, the liberals have infiltrated and taken over the education system and raised children to be wards of the state.

that’s why they fight school vouchers and the government allows government workers to unionize. that in itself is the recipe for destruction of the American way of life.

the communists/fascists have taken over the entertainment industry, and people look up to them, idolize them (sic) and give them legitimacy, even those that are dumber than striesand.

furthermore, we do not need middle of the roaders running for office, we do not need compromise, we need conquest. tea party fits the bill.

the next four years will be devastating for the country. end up a banana republic.

in the long term, the public has to be re-educated. the Constitution is not a bad thing. freedom is a good thing.

The Bill of Rights are a good thing.

if we are going to win, we have to adhere to right-wing conservative stands, not compromising with commies or fascists, and making the constrasts plain and simple to understand.

blessings, bobo


43 posted on 11/20/2012 1:47:39 PM PST by bobo1
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To: All

outside of some nation altering catastrophic event, I just don’t know how .....demographics demographics demographics just not on the conservative side


44 posted on 11/20/2012 1:55:08 PM PST by thestob (THESE are the times that try men's souls.)
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To: Marketfly1

The only way to beat the DNC (Don’t Nail my Check) party is in three steps
1) Conservatives must fight to stop voter fraud. Whatever it takes, if it means door to door to root out fraud so be it.
2) Conservatives must decide to either take over the Republican Party or form their own.
3) We must run conservative candidates in the next three elections and test the path to victory.
4) Our presidential candidate must not be Democrat light but conservative


45 posted on 11/20/2012 1:55:36 PM PST by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: Marketfly1

Why would there ever be another election?

America is through!

Obama sought to destroy it, and now he will.


46 posted on 11/20/2012 1:56:19 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Marketfly1

Can the GOP win an election? Sure. Conservatives can’t though.

Just look at Britain which is even more of a Socialist nation than we are. Every so often, Labour screws up so badly that the Tories win. The Tories aren’t conservatives though.

Same will happen here. Once in a very great while, the Dems will run someone so corrupt and so incompetent that the GOP will win.

The winner won’t be a conservative though. They will simply be a caretaker until the true Socialist can resume power four years later.


47 posted on 11/20/2012 1:56:39 PM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: Astronaut
Anyone ever get the feeling that it was all a big show, and that the Democrats and Republicans are all part of the same corrupt system that wants to destroy our liberty?


All the time!
48 posted on 11/20/2012 1:57:22 PM PST by Mr. Doctor
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To: Marketfly1

We will win future presidential elections as long as we as a party come down on immigration sometime soon and before 2024 when Texas and Arizona will be toss-up or Democratic states.

If noting is down about immigration, the party will not be able to win elections after 2024.


49 posted on 11/20/2012 2:00:16 PM PST by OKRA2012
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>> No.

Hey Naysayers, in case you haven't noticed, this is not FeebleRepublic.com

50 posted on 11/20/2012 2:01:51 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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