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Petraeus scandal puts four-star general lifestyle under scrutiny
The Washington Post ^ | November 17, 2012 | Rajiv Chandrasekaran and Greg Jaffe

Posted on 11/19/2012 6:19:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Then-defense secretary Robert M. Gates stopped bagging his leaves when he moved into a small Washington military enclave in 2007. His next-door neighbor was Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the time, who had a chef, a personal valet and — not lost on Gates — troops to tend his property.

Gates may have been the civilian leader of the world’s largest military, but his position did not come with household staff. So, he often joked, he disposed of his leaves by blowing them onto the chairman’s lawn.

“I was often jealous because he had four enlisted people helping him all the time,” Gates said in response to a question after a speech Thursday. He wryly complained to his wife that “Mullen’s got guys over there who are fixing meals for him, and I’m shoving something into the microwave. And I’m his boss.”

Of the many facts that have come to light in the scandal involving former CIA director David H. Petraeus, among the most curious was that during his days as a four-star general, he was once escorted by 28 police motorcycles as he traveled from his Central Command headquarters in Tampa to socialite Jill Kelley’s mansion. Although most of his trips did not involve a presidential-size convoy, the scandal has prompted new scrutiny of the imperial trappings that come with a senior general’s lifestyle...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: military; obama; petraeus; scandal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somehow, I don’t see ole Ben Bradlee, publisher of the WaPo that published this POS, raking his own yard, either


21 posted on 11/19/2012 7:27:51 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: OldPossum
When Kerry becomes Secretary of Defense, I’m going in my fox hole and never coming out. That guy hates the military - but then so does Hussein. The country really is toast economically and militarily. Time to prepare and hunker down.
22 posted on 11/19/2012 7:55:58 PM PST by Marcella (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“So do senior executives of companies...”

I worked for a company in Ohio, the largest in its industry, and knew the CEO. We shared the same barbershop. And he did his own yard work. I have seen him cutting his own grass. I have seen him raking leaves. Did he have to do that? No, and he could have hired all of that done.

And yes, I have known of CEO’s who had personal work done by company employees, on company time. This one, whom I have always admired, did not do that.


23 posted on 11/19/2012 8:12:55 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I’ve never seen an O-5 do his own yardwork, much less a general or a cabinet officer.”

That’s a crock.


24 posted on 11/19/2012 8:24:02 PM PST by greatvikingone
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I heard about this stuff when I was in the Army, and I vowed that I would never be a part of it, it would have been the stockade for me, if they had tried to turn me into a common servant.


25 posted on 11/19/2012 8:25:04 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wah?
This 0-6’s wife and hubs have ALWAYS bagged our own leaves, even living in housing. I’d like to know the ones who didn’t...


26 posted on 11/19/2012 8:25:25 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Ditto

Exactly right...I totally agree....and the misuse of these personnel is notorious.


27 posted on 11/19/2012 8:28:08 PM PST by matginzac
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I’ve never seen an O-5 do his own yardwork, much less a general or a cabinet officer."

My father was an O-5, he did his own yard work. My brother is an 0-5 and he does his own yard work. I guess you didn't look very hard.

28 posted on 11/19/2012 8:35:32 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Flag_This

Just my experience, not saying all are the same. Remember, I was a strategic intelligence analyst so I have a slightly different perspective than an infantryman or wheeled vehicle mechanic.


29 posted on 11/19/2012 8:39:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was an E-4 and I do my own yard work.


30 posted on 11/19/2012 8:46:06 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I replied to your first post on this thread, before I saw your second.

An O5 was not considered Senior Officer Staff in my experience with the military.

Occupational hazard, I guess, for enlisted active duty operations staff.
In the USAF, only a rear echelon, non-ops O5 would even dream of asking for support staff.

In my time, he/she would have been the base joke.
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31 posted on 11/19/2012 8:52:10 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I was a kid, I used to play at the Naval Observatory. We were friends with the admiral’s son. The VP did not live there back then; the admiral did.

Talk about a place to play! They had a movie theater and we would call into the kitchen with food orders. I was young, but drove a car around the grounds. We were kinda bad. It was a blast. :)


32 posted on 11/19/2012 9:02:38 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the third post of yours I am replying to, on this thread.

My last official title was NCOIC of Combat Intelligence, for a SAC nuclear Division.

I’m going to go out on a very stout limb here, and cry probable foul regarding your military experience credentials.
But hey, have a nice day!


33 posted on 11/19/2012 9:04:08 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom

I was a 96B Intelligence Analyst. Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri for Basic Combat Training then on to Fort Huachuca, Arizona for AIT. First assignment: Hotline Operator (DMZ early warning analyst) at G-2 I Corps (ROK/US) Group, Camp Red Cloud, Korea. Then 191st Combat Intelligence Company, 312th Military Intelligence Battalion (CEWI) of 1st Cavalry Division, Ft Hood, Texas. On to HHOC, 102nd Intelligence Battalion (CEWI) of the 2nd Infantry Division, where I was tasked to cover three DPRK Army corps. Was on both Camp Hovey and Casey. Then on to HHOC, 105th Military Intelligence Battalion (CEWI) of the 5th (Mech) Infantry Division, Fort Polk, where I ETS’d.


34 posted on 11/19/2012 9:19:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Where are the articles on Benghazi?! America was attacked on 9-11 and four Americans killed.

These mistress, email, motorcade, leave raking stories, and who changed the "talking points" stories are nothing more than a distraction to more serious questions.

Where are the stories on why the embassy did not have better security? Why were the rescuers abandoned and left to die? That is where the scrutiny should be.

35 posted on 11/19/2012 9:26:36 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane (If you repeat a lie enough--it is not true--it is just propaganda.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So you were a glorified enlisted admin clerk with up to a “Top Secret” security clearance in the Army?

When I say “That don't impress me much”, will you be offended?

Not to denigrate your personal service to our nation, but just to shake you out of your public delusions of self grandeur...

36 posted on 11/19/2012 10:00:39 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom

I worked at an Air National Guard base soon after I left the service and you remind me of them, if you catch my drift. Where did the Air Force get the idea that they were somehow “above” and superior to the Army, the branch where they originated?


37 posted on 11/19/2012 10:40:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: sarasmom

I live in a active duty Naval officers home. Your attitude is beyond disgusting!


38 posted on 11/20/2012 3:25:59 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: OldPossum

Sen. Kerry is being considered for Secretary of Defense, not Secretary of the Navy,...SOS, as I recall.


39 posted on 11/20/2012 4:11:35 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Coldwater Creek
Really?

Which part of my “attitude” do you find so offensive?

40 posted on 11/20/2012 6:39:03 PM PST by sarasmom
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