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Cheers!
1 posted on 11/11/2012 9:00:48 PM PST by grey_whiskers
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To: grey_whiskers; neverdem; SunkenCiv; Cindy; LucyT; decimon; freedumb2003; ...
Loreena McKennitt meets Chicken Little Deluxe Birdcage *PING*.

Cheers!

2 posted on 11/11/2012 9:07:13 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Very well said, as always!


3 posted on 11/11/2012 9:21:09 PM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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To: grey_whiskers

despite the public remarks of Romney on election day about “That’s how you know you’re going to win!” about his reception at the Pittsburgh airport,
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Willard was merely boasting that he could make things happen...
those peole didnt get up that day and magically decide to drive down to the Pittsburg Airport...

Like all or most of the rallies, they knew that Willard would be there and it was prearranged...

sorry to burst your bubble but if you think they were attracted there by slent dog whistle or something without any human contact you would be wrong...

“That’s how you know you’re going to win!”

did anyone bother to ask Willard what he meant by that strange remark ???

Willard thought he could control people and get them to come rushing down to the airport so he could use them as backdrop to his own fanciful vanity and ego...

and he thought he could control the elections...

ORCA was meant to give him an edge on Obama...

the campaign that Willard built all came tumbling down...

was there fraud ??? Im sure there was...

but Willard contributed to his own downfall all by himself...

When he staqrted acted like a Democrat and bussing people into his rallies from other states, I wondered why...

how many peop0le from TN acttually took the free bus ride and accommodations to OH and VA for the rallies there I dont know...

I can find out but right now its dismal to be around fellow Republicans

everyone seems “undone”

Church this morning was awful..


5 posted on 11/11/2012 9:38:19 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: grey_whiskers
"We All Bundle(d)!!!"

We ran a milktoast, "Stepford Wives" candidate who, while a good man and capable executive, failed to convey the power of conservatism and was easily defined by the left.
7 posted on 11/12/2012 4:09:11 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: grey_whiskers

This post is written in anger and frustration.

Angry that we continue to follow the Republican Party’s elite ignorance. A party that continues to pull defeat from the jaws of victory characterized by pompous fools who fulfill the sterotype built by the left.

Frustrated that the reality of politics is this: There will be no third party capable of competing with the coalition constructed by the dems. As a result, true conservatives MUST take steps to irradicate the ignorance of the Republican Party while still adhering to the core values of our forefathers (beliefs that I discovered are considered extreme by over half of my countrymen on Tuesday night, BTW).

I have no solve for exactly how to accomplish this. Only advice based on a long military career in several foreign lands for how to defeat the dems once this is accomplished.

This thought process is based on the concept of irregular warfare with twists thrown in here and there for good measure.

With that, I provide the following advice for the good of the order.

LEADERSHIP: The old crew has proven either incompotent or outdated. McConnell and Boerner must go. They represent a failed plan to defend and resist without clearly explaining their position. They are content with looking like the bad guys and face public scorn when they don’t realize how important it is to manipulate a clearly left leaning MSM. They represent the failure of the last four years to our own and obstructionists to the opposition. We’ve got to show a new face to the nation. That is the genesis of rebuilding this movement. Ryan or Cantor in the House, Rubio or Demint in the Senate.

We also need a standard bearer and I see no one on the horizon with as much rockstar potential and substance as Rubio. These next four years must put him on the center stage with a unified and consolidated message. It also needs to protect him from the attacks from the left that are guaranteed to come.

Everything the Obamites used to deny, deflect, and difuse will be used againstt hem....including the race card. THAT is what will make Rubio a teflon candidate.

These men represent a change in a party that has been beaten soundly in the last two elections by a charlatan and his traveling circus. A fresh choice in leadership represents change you can TRULY beleive in from every angle. It marks a clear start from inside and outside when we actually started taking this enemy seriously.

GROUND GAME: It is IMPERATIVE to develop and foster an intricate ground game. It requires a MICRO-ANALYSIS of every county, every city, and every early and absentee ballot by demographic to find how how, why, and with what method they voted. The dems have built quite the coalition but it’s a house of cards; it’s a fractured coalition of single issue voters held together by a media-invested hollyweird worshipping demagogue. They can be piecemealed away bitby bit without sacrficing principle.

Give it to the dems on their “community organizing” machine. We don’t need to reinvent that model. We MUST develop our own. One that will INSTILL our principles in a language tailored to the audience. They’ve tailored theirs on the community organizer, we can create ours around the military special operator. This the winning of hearts and minds in our own third world backyard dem strongholds.

This isn’t as difficult as it sounds. It requires a patient and immediate effort that starts with the post election analysis looking not for what we WANT to find, but for the GROUND TRUTH. GROUND TRUTH is REAL INTELLIGENCE not Rovian number-crunching wishful thinking.

It will require an insurgent effort at the ground level. An infiltration into dem areas that we identify are weak or vulnerable to start cutting in to the blue.

The COIN (insurgeny/counterinsurgency)effort would include the identification of these areas, the inflitration of the areas through churches and charitable organizations AND PARTICULARLY THROUGH EDUCATION.

There ARE like thinkers in these communities. How do we find them? Ask Jesse L. Peterson. Ask JC Watts and Herman Cain. They KNOW how to splinter these vulnerable areas off the blue.

The hispanic issue is RIPE for moving into the red. Catholic, family oriented cultures who beleive in being left alone and naturally distrust the government. And they voted Obama? This is the epitome of the single issue voter. the RNC needs to go toe to toe, issue to issue with “the Race” and counter it in that community, in that language, at THAT LEVEL.

Think it can’t be done? SOF has been doing it since the end of World War II. It CAN be done.

WE must get deep into the education system to promote the ideals and values of conservatism that should be selling themselves. I’m not talking about traditional public schools and universities. They are ROTTED with liberals. They also aren’tthe keys to education in the 21st century.

I’m talking about the new way to educate - the online universities, the trade schools and nightschools. Corporate allies need to invest and educate with the ideals of economic and fiscal conservatism.

The RNC needs to lead and develop this effort. A novice like me can see that there is a disconnect between the voting habits of catholic-dominated hispanics and pockets of baptist blacks and their actual stated values. That disconnect can be exploited if it is done slowly, deliberately, and effectively.

INFORMATION WARFARE: We are ATROCIOUS AT THIS. Dems get a simple message out early and often. They poison the well and we are left to change minds rather than get the initial impression right from jump. We constantly play defense and think we are sooooo clever when dems (as they ALWAYS do) do something stupid or illegal and shocked when the media all but ignores it. We must take the offensive in getting up in every Candy Crowley, every George Stepenopolis’ face and call them what they are: democratic hacks posing as the “objective media”

We ABSOLUTELY MUST be proactive. We must attack at EVERY OPPORTUNITY then add each fail of the dems to a trend and theme. These themes must be simple, tailored, and repetitively broadcast to each target demographic.

We must look out beyond the 5 and 10 meter targets. We’ve got to effectively interpret what the dem message is on the horizon and confront it at all levels - from the national MSM level filtering directly down to the target group level. Even I can see what the talking points of the upcoming week are by watching the Sunday talking head programs. Defense is unacceptable. we can’t pretent that the most outrageous comment won’t gain traction then act surprised when weeks later, that theme picks up steam. Attack, attack, attack.

Alinsky tactics must be turned against their masters. There is GREAT power in ridicule and scorn. They make it too easy to use. It needs to be culturally tailored and consistent. Dennis Miller needs his own show on FNC AND a late night show on Fox. Let him source and promote culturally diverse conserative comedians that vulnerable areas can relate to and remember. Bold Fresh tours aren’t enough.

This is only part of an overall information operation plan that is constant in a simple party message and what it means to each target group.

WE DON’T DO THAT WELL. WHY NOT? I find it unbelievable that Obama has hijacked the reputation and imagery of the Party of Lincoln.

COIN operations involve a very in depth understanding of cultural idocyncracies and how best to exploit them to our advantage. It’s not a “wool-over-the-eyes” approach or a “free shit” approach like the dems sell. THAT ALWAYS COMES UP SHORT.

It’s a sell based on how it effects each target group and what it means to them. If it’s done right, I am CONFIDENT that the tenets of conservatism sell themselves.

In Civil Miltary Operations, assistance in areas that seem unrelated builds trust in the agency. Granted, there’s a fine line between assistance and the giving of free shit but, the special operations forces walk that line well. It can be done. Community outreach in areas that we identify, in ways that we haven’t before can build a larger tent without sacrificing our beliefs.

The military has been doing this in third world countries for years. We’ve been more successful in some areas, less successful in others. In the United States third world strongholds of the Democratic Party,I am confident that it can be done.

Here’s the kicker: There are countless retired special operations planners and operators working overseas as contractors RIGHT NOW. It’s too easy; the RNC needs to hire them as contractors over here.

This is, by far, not the only avenue we’ve got to pursue in order to turn the tide.

But, if we are going to war, the RNC must look to the military to rediscover and reorganize. The number-crunching beancounters have their place in the organization but, on their best days, they can only identify who will and won’t vote Republican.

This is a “Hearts and Minds” effort.

It requires a new way to think about the political battlefield.

Rangers Lead the Way.


8 posted on 11/12/2012 5:28:38 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: grey_whiskers

Excellent comments.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 5:32:28 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up." ~marron)
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To: grey_whiskers

In Virginia we have coal counties where less than half the voting age population bothered to vote. In my rural county I spoke to several people who said they simply could care less about voting. Meanwhile the City of Petersburg (90% black) got 71% of their voting age population to vote, with 90% for Obama. My conclusion is that the stupid party is lazy and the evil party is motivated.


10 posted on 11/12/2012 5:42:10 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: grey_whiskers; Jim Robinson
There is much in your vanity which is thoughtful and fully deserves a thoughtful response. "Thoughtful" that is as opposed to "emotional," a point which you carefully make and which I would like to amplify. I am convinced that the worst thing we conservatives can do today is to seize upon a comfortable emotional rationalization for this loss and march onto the next election oblivious and naked only to be once again blindsided. Let us talk about this in terms of Veterans Day.

You are quite right to remind us of Veterans Day and what it implies. As a child I recall my father, a veteran of World War II, coming home wearing a red flower in his lapel and offering an explanation which at the time I little understood. Years later, I happened to be in London on a dreary November 11 when so many people on the streets were wearing red poppies but it took a while for me to connect what I was seeing with my childhood experience. The carnage of World War I was disproportionately borne by the British as compared to the Americans. A whole generation of young men was nearly wiped out. So many young British men were killed that the society resorted to hyphenating names to preserve the male line. Yet, as devastating as British casualties were they actually suffered less than their allies and enemies.

The House of Windsor survived but the Hohenzollerens, Habsburgs, Romanovs, and Ottomans were destroyed by the war as was the culture which we English-speaking people know as the Edwardian age. The Edwardian values were discredited as was the aristocracy to a degree as the realization sank in that the elite classes had conducted the country into a catastrophe. Communism, Fascism, National Socialism emerged out of the blood and rubble. The war launched the world into its bloodiest century.

One of the most poignant and prophetic scenes must be that of the observation of Lord Edward Gray, knowing the Germans would receive Britain's ultimatum making war nearly inevitable, he looked out on the gas lights of London being lit at dusk and was heard to say, "The lamps are going out all over Europe. I fear we shall not see them lit again in our lifetime."

We honor our men and now our women who served and sacrificed in that war and in America's wars.

Where I live here in Bavaria the landscape is dotted with charming villages, ("Dörfer"), and in virtually every town square somewhere near the Catholic Church one will see a "Denkmal" (Monument) with a list of names of the fallen from that village. Relative to the diminutive size of the village the list is appallingly long. The list is longer for World War II. Yet the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month will go largely unremarked here in Germany.

World War I had other consequences. Lessons were drawn from that war which were to shape how we see the world even to this date. Few are aware of the character of the war as it evolved in 1918. Almost everyone of reasonable education has been informed that World War I was a static war in which the defensive deployment of artillery and machine guns situated in trenches prevailed against human bodies attacking over open ground.

The French and English drew tactical lessons which were that the offensive was no longer a viable war tactic, rather the casualty count had proved that it was madness to assault fixed positions and therefore the Army should be structured around a defensive posture. The English especially forgot the lesson that they taught the world, not excluding the Germans, of the shattering impact of tanks against forces arrayed on the defensive. The Germans went to school on those battles in places like Cambrai and learned that lesson only to use what they had learned to school in another war the British who had forgotten their own invention.

After the war the French drew back behind their Maginot Line and the English drew back behind their channel. Worse, the French extrapolated an even more faulty lesson beyond favoring the defensive, they became defeatist.

By early 1918 at least the Germans had learned another equally important lesson. They had found the key to breaking through the defense which had frustrated both sides at the cost of millions of lives for nearly 4 years. Strategists had attempted to break through static lines with concentration of force preceded by earth shattering bombardment. In the main the bombardment had served only to warn the adversary of the impending attack and to so furrow the ground that made it virtually impassable for attacking troops. The Germans went the other way, they abbreviated the bombardment and broke up the attacking force into elite commando type squads thoroughly trained and disciplined to infiltrate and avoid strong points. They could do this because of the extraordinary training, unit cohesion, and staff support, especially of their veterans.

Ludendorff very nearly won with this tactic but simply did not have the reserves required, even throwing into the battle 1 million troops arrived from the Russian front. The attempt, although unsuccessful in winning the war before the Americans could be brought to bear, nevertheless demonstrated the possibility of aggressive, offensive warfare.

Combine these tactics with the concentrated use of tanks, add air and coordinate all three by communications and staff work, and you have blitzkrieg.

The Germans, principally Gudarian, took one set of lessons from World War I and the Allies, with few exceptions like Charles de Gaulle, took a whole different set of lessons from that war. The French especially but even the English reacted emotionally to the carnage. The English forgot the lessons they had taught the world about the use of tanks. The French who had thought that élan would win the day now went to the other extreme and became defeatist.

Understandable as these emotional reactions were in view of the ghastliness of the World War I battlefields, succumbing to these emotions at the cost of rational evaluation only cost millions more lives.

This lengthy discourse on Veterans Day is meant to make a point about our catastrophic election loss. It is vital that we take the right lessons from this campaign and not draw feel good emotional conclusions.

We lost this war, let us not lose the next.


12 posted on 11/12/2012 6:52:18 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: grey_whiskers

ping for reference


16 posted on 06/25/2013 4:29:48 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: grey_whiskers

Wonderful.

“Now, clear your minds. It knows what scares you. It has since the beginning.”


17 posted on 06/25/2013 4:38:42 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: grey_whiskers
Excellent summary of 2012. Probably what destoyed the GOP the most was the incessant amount of early MSM left leaning led debates which ended up being circular firing squads, and the game of "Got cha". What emerged ended up being Obama lite. The MSM were hellbent keeping a conservative out of the general election, and they succeeded.

In 2016, if the GOP has any hope of doing better, a good strong conservative needs to be nominated. To get there, the RNC needs to singularly sponor these, and define the debate under their own terms. Let MSNBC pound sand.

19 posted on 06/25/2013 4:55:51 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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