Skip to comments.DO NOTHING
Posted on 11/10/2012 12:02:09 PM PST by A'elian' nation
Post election musings.
I am sick. Sick that this country has sunk so low. Ronald Reagan could not win today against slick Santa. At least he could not win in a presidential year election. There is too much at stake now for the takers in a land of bread and circuses.
There are two electorates today: a Presidential electorate and an off-year electorate. The takers are too lazy to come out and vote in the off years. Or they dont understand its importance. Thats when we win seats in Congress.
So I say to Boehner, DO NOTHING. Hey, there was nothing we could do the first two years of this hateful presidents administration, and look what happened in 2010. The Marxists policies cannot succeed, and Bush bashing just isnt going to work anymore. If republicans just lie low for 2 years, they cant be blamed for being obstructionists, and the media will have no choice but to slowly turn on the Marxist.
Let them raise taxes. Let them stop pumping oil and digging for coal. Let gas prices and regulations rise. It wont be just the rich that feels it. Obamacare doesnt go into effect until 2014 which should also play into the off-year elections. The only place I would hold firm is in Supreme Court appointments, and I suspect that the Marxist will find it difficult to hold all his democrat senators in line for his appointees. The man is not respected or loved even in his own party, and there are many out to succeed him. Democrats will now be out devouring their own.
There is always a second term curse. The Marxist will get his. There are too many scandals in his administration: Benghazi, CIA, Fast & Furious, vote tampering, crony capitalism, government waste, Muslims and communists in the administration, not to mention another recession and monetary downgrades, etc. etc.
And once Hillary resigns, Obama will truly know what revenge is.
The Marxist will leave office disgraced and discredited just like Clinton. His will be a failed presidency, because he cannot lead much less govern. But of course he will still be beloved by his minions and idolators and idiots just like Clinton continues to be.
I no longer believe that conservatism wins every time. When we lose Catholics, women, the young voters; I dont know where we get the votes. At least not in presidential voting years.
I am sad for Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan. They are good people; decent people. Too good for what this country has become.
People voted for obammys skin color....nothing more.
The majority of young people will not vote for a conservative candidate. They have been brought up by parents who have given them everything they wanted from the cradle with no consequence. Obama is just an extension of this thinking. Women with children out of marriage also like this santa claus environment. Forget about the Catholics, they are no longer listening to their church leaders - do as I want but forgetting about their souls.
That was the case in 2008. All the democrats have to do is put up any Santa sock puppet promising free stuff, and they will win.
Until the money runs out.
This post hits home with me. The day after the election this is what I put on my Facebook page, I got several ‘likes’ and a few comments. It disappointed me at the ones who chose to ignore my post....tells me a lot about them.
This is my post:
I just realized how I was feeling since Tuesday. I am in mourning, my heart is broken just as it was 46 years ago when my dad suddenly died. I am grieving for my kids, grandkids, gr/grandkids, nephews, and nieces....they will not get to grow up in the wonderful country that we had to grow up in, with so much hope & promises for the future.......I am SO mad at the ignorant millions who voted for this impostor just for a stinking cell phone!!
No there is more than that.
People voted against Chinese manufacturing.
People voted against Romney’s religion.
It was overall sort of close. If Romney were not a Mormon, he would have won.
Running a Mormon was a huge mistake.
Sure Mormons are patriotic and self-sufficient: both things we as a country need more of.
But they are also insular and that turned a lot of voters away.
Don’t make that mistake again.
We need to run our finest next time.
Not our “B” team, which after Palin stood down, we ended up with this year.
You know that’s not a bad thought. If it’s possible, Boehner should do the same thing Reid is doing.
If the GOP does nothing, they will lose in 2014.
That’s just recognizing fact.
This is going to be a tough two / four years. The media is on the Dems’ side.
What the GOP should do I do not know yet, but nothing, is probably a way out of office next election.
The majority of Catholics that voted for Obama were not church-going Catholics, but Catholics in name only, according to ETWN.
I sympathize with your hurting heart, GrannyK. It is sad beyond words.
As for those who think doing nothing won’t work, how do you explain 2010 ? It wasn’t because of republicans in Congress.
It was the Tea Party, and it wasn’t a presidential voting year.
There are two electorates that show up every two and four years. We have the advantage in the off-years, because their side is too stupid or lethargic.
I think it's a bargaining chip that Zero intends to trade away at the last minute, in exchange for a carbon tax or some other Marxist agenda item. If Boehner agrees to let him try the tax hike on the 'rich' for a limited time, 12-18 months or so, then Zero will own the next recession. He could just have the House GOP vote 'present'.
Wouldn't you have to run a conservative to prove that?
The tide will turn, the next group of conservatives looks good, until then adjust accordingly.
It may be that doing nothing is a good strategy. I’m not sure that it’s the best strategy and I think the Republican party needs to take a disciplined look at how they are doing.
Surely you don’t believe that Gingrich or Santorum could have won ? What choice did we have that wouldn’t have been destroyed by the media and the democrat hatchet men? Santorum wouldn’t get 25% of the women vote based on the war against women campaign.
The Gingrich zingers would have pleased us, but he would be relegated as old news and against seniors. ( remember “withering on the vine” ?)
Rush thinks that Rick Perry could have won. Maybe, if he could think on his feet. I think Perry could have run the roughest race against the Marxist - giving as well as he got - but he had that problem of not coming off as smart enough.
I respectfully disagree with that. The thing about Reagan is that he believed in conservatism and explained it to people.
The problem, in my opinion, is that we have had no one to champion conservative ideas with the same heartfelt passion and actually have the balls to apply it. I bet we would win if we did.
And you know what? What harm would happen if we actually tried and lost? We would lose anyway, LOL? If that happened and we lost, then I could then honestly say to hell with it all and just let it all burn down. Government IS the problem and I don't know many people personally that would argue otherwise.
Those who hate Christ hold many high places in government, media, education and business. They have successfully turned the hearts of many Christians against the faith of their fathers. To God's enemies I say, there is no future in fighting against God's Son. One way or another America and His enemies will learn this lesson.
PSALM 2 - SPEAKS OF JESUS, HIS ENEMIES and HIS CHURCH
Why do the nations rage, And the people plot a vain thing? 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, And the rulers take counsel together, Against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying, 3 Let us break Their bonds in pieces And cast away Their cords from us.
4 He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; The Lord shall hold them in derision. 5 Then He shall speak to them in His wrath, And distress them in His deep displeasure: 6 Yet I have set My King On My holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree: The Lord has said to Me, You are My Son, Today I have begotten You. 8 Ask of Me, and I will give You The nations for Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth for Your possession. 9 You shall break[a] them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them to pieces like a potters vessel.
10 Now therefore, be wise, O kings; Be instructed, you judges of the earth. 11 Serve the Lord with fear, And rejoice with trembling. 12 Kiss the Son,[b] lest [c] He be angry, And you perish in the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him.
Gingrich could have kicked that little Marxist’s butt up and down the block.
You completely ignored my point and my question BTW. For obvious reasons.
I’m not saying the republican party should play dead. They should give the appearance of giving resistance, proclaiming conservative values, but admitting that they can’t get bills past the Senate.
Kind of like what they’ve been doing all along since 2010.
I sure wouldn’t act like Boehner and dance with Obama like Christie did. Give the appearance of the good fight, but let it be known you are impotent to stop the democrat programs.
If you take away the Marxist’s punching bag what is he going to do ?
Yep, just say the people voted for the Democrats, they own it now, and don’t come bitching to us when the crap hits the fan, we told you so.
I’m sorry. What didn’t I answer? First I don’t believe that Gingrich is all that conservative. His weakness to me has always been his need to be liked and respected for his ideas.
He had a revolt against his leadership in the House because he constantly caved to Clinton. And I don’t think he would have run as tough of a campaign as Perry could have. Gingrich is too intellectual for that, and he has this need to be liked thing.
You forget that in 2016 there will be millions of newly minted brown folks here for free stuff. They are not going to vote for a conservative or Sarah Palin. I doubt she would run. If she did, she better have already been meeting with the big ass money dudes and putting together the billion she would need. You can’t even think of a run without that, That is why so many knew she would not run.
Don’t forget that for those who stayed home, you will pay by losing the people that liked Romney. They will most likely return the favor.
If Romney would have won and help get things moving in our direction like improving the economy, we would have had a good set up down the road for a conservative.
I no longer believe that conservatism wins every time.
Wouldn't you have to run a conservative to prove that?
First I dont believe that Gingrich is all that conservative.
You brought Gingrich up not me. It's irrelevant to your statement about conservatism and to the point and question I asked you.
From Reuters: "Hispanic Catholics were far more likely to favor Obama - by 76 percent to 23 percent - than white Catholics, who favored Romney by 56 percent to 43 percent, according to the Reuters poll. Black Protestants favored Obama by 97 percent to 3 percent, while white Protestants favored Romney by 69 percent compared to 29 percent for Obama."
So, when it comes to counting the Catholic votes, you have to consider that there are many Catholics who are voting a completely different agenda than the Catholic agenda.
It was made clear from the pulpits across the nation that to vote for a candidate the supports abortion when there is choice not to, is a very serious sin.
Well, it goes to show that most Catholics put other agenda first.
I know many people who haven't been to church in years, who if asked at an exit poll, "What is your religion?", would answer, "Catholic." They are not Catholics. Real Catholics do not vote for abortion candidates. Unfortunately, I will see many people at church tomorrow who probably voted for Odmama. They too are not real Catholics.
Folks on the right need to get used to the idea that the majority of people vote FOR a candidate not AGAINST a candidate and will vote FOR officeholders who are perceived as doing something and AGAINST officeholders who are perceived as do-nothing obstructionists.
I remember the Reagan days even the folks that disagreed with him politically came around to supporting him because he was Doing something and Accomplishing something. If the GOP adopts a do nothing strategy they will lose their off year election advantage and never elect a President again...
That appears a little optimistic to me. The main stream media is dominated by closet Marxists.
About conservatism - it depends on who is espousing it.
I was just going over the candidates we had to choose from.
Gingrich could well kick butt, as you say, in a gentleman’s debate club, but Obama has never been a member of such a club.
Who do you think was espousing the kind of conservative principles that could defeat the Marxist this year? Conservatism by itself can’t win. It has to have a vessel.
I’m not so sure we are a center right country anymore; at least not until the Marxist’s theories and programs have been shown to be a total failure; and he is held accountable. When he runs out of excuses, they will turn on him.
“The media is on the Dems’ side.”
THIS is NOT going to change . . EVER! So, we need leaders and regular people who will repudiate and shame their elitist, condescending, pseudo-intellectual, snotty actions and attitudes . . and . . turn off KATIE Couric and Diane Soryer, and Morley Safer, and Brian Williams, and Lester Holt, and George (Clinton) Stephanopolis, etc. and default to an alternative means of getting their news. - The idea of tolerating their constant attempts to MAKE the news instead of just reporting it, and then coddling “the first BLACK President” with their refusal to do honest JOURNALISM is our own fault. - They coddled the craven Clinton the same way; just do an end run around them. I wouldn’t trust them even IF they did suddenly have a “come to Jesus” moment; the commies have ruined this country with their so-called “intelligence”!
My point was that we didn't have a candidate espousing it so it's not logical to say that conservatism didn't or couldn't win. You say that Gingrich isn't conservative enough either and couldn't win. If I accept that characterization of Gingrich that just reinforces my point.
“If the GOP adopts a do nothing strategy they will lose their off year election advantage ...”
What did the GOP do between 2008 and 2010 ? What ?
The Tea Party put the republicans back in the game.
Romney was a strong candidate, but he was a weak candidate also. His base was (quite) strong, but he turned off many at the very same time.
That is not the way to win elections.
We need someone nice, and who genuinely inspires voters. Other qualities such as money can be worked on, but we need someone who is genuinely good and inspiring.
Romney wasn’t inspiring except to his core. A bunch of us supported him, but a bunch did not.
That was a big problem.
We have to protect the Second Amendment, and the whole Bill of Rights for that matter. Otherwise let ‘em try to bleed more money from this country. It’s running out fast anyway.
Why should the Republicans go out of their way to make 0bama’s communism work? F THE COMMUNISTS, let their policies teach America a lesson.. LET IT BURN!!!!!! Hey Boehner?? HANDS OFF!!!!!!!!!
Now it’s my turn to say that you didn’t answer my question.
Who was espousing the kind of conservatism this year that would have won? You can’t just say that conservatism wins every time. You sure can’t say it to Allen West or Mia Love.
I love conservatism. It still needs a standard bearer. I doubt if Maximus Decimus Meridius could combat this age of breads and circuses. The Marxist has to completely FAIL and disillusion his minions for things to change.
I realyl doubt she would get the support he did. You think he was demonized. It would be far worse with Palin. Far worse. So bad I wouldn’t even want to think about it.
Give it up.
Give it up?
I’m just getting started.
If Palin enters any race, I’ll be in and yelling.
Sadly the problem with Romney was that we didn’t humanize him.
Or he wasn’t comfortable with baring his soul and good deeds; just like the Bushes.
Romney was seen as competent, confident, and a leader, but that isn’t enough anymore like it was for Bush the Elder who reminds me of Romney. Again it shows how the country has changed for the worse. It’s why Bush II had to run as a compassionate conservative - a term we hated in its redundancy.
Presidential elections are popularity contests now like The Idol or The Voice. Romney was not comfortable on The View or late night shows, nor was he treated kindly. Those were the only places one saw the Marxist during the campaign. It was the strategy that won it for him.
Until we crack that social media, it’s going to be tough sledding in the age of the ignorant voter.
I would say a good portion of the negative change you are observing, has to do with America losing jobs to foreign competitors.
Enough is enough.
Close our markets, to the extent other markets are closed to ours.
You’ll have to stop deflecting and answer my question first.
I’m pretty sure all the Media Marxists are already out of the closet.
I thought they did all they could to re-package an inveterate lying flip-flopping, pro-choice, pro-gay, anti-gun, pro-big government liberal.
How anyone sees and warmth and humanity in the Marxist is beyond me ? I guess it’s good enough to just be hip and cool.
Whatever, do so
Boehner, tell that marxist if he wants his tax hikes, he gets them.. ALL of them. If one Bush-era tax cut expires, then they ALL expire! If Amerikans think they`re thinking they`re seeing stagnation now... they haven`t BEGUN to see the effects!
Americans showed they wanted this with Tuesday`s vote. So let `em have it... all of it.
And, oh by the way... let...no, DEMAND Obama keep his spending levels as they are or increase them.
Then, in a couple years, the rubes can get back with us with how they`re faring.
Like I said ... Amerika wanted this.
Let them choke on unicorn farts...
Giving Obama his tax hikes can scarcely be blamed on the GOP. They should give Obama every tax and spending hike he wants, then grab the popcorn and watch the fun.
Amerikans need a hard lesson.
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