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More than 6 million self-described “evangelicals” voted for Obama
wordpress.com ^ | Joel Rosenberg

Posted on 11/09/2012 4:58:17 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2

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To: stillonaroll
Very good points stillonaroll.

The fically convervative but social liberal types have been in denial for decades that the social conservative's warnings have been right all along (all the while being smeared and demonized for telling the truth).

Now that the social liberal utopia is upon us, the same liberals(RINOS and many libertarians) that were wrong before are now suggesting that conservatives turn their backs on four hundered years of American civilization and concede to becoming a European cesspool clone.

141 posted on 11/09/2012 9:34:48 PM PST by OriginalIntent (undo all judicial activism and its results)
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To: stillonaroll

Pro-abortion? Of course not. But realistically, arguing that abortion should be categorically banned under any circumstances isn’t going to win them elections.

Gay marriage? No, they don’t need to favor it—certainly not at a Federal level. If people wanted to be more clever in arguments against gay marriage, they could take the stance that gay marriage is discriminatory against unmarried people, etc.

Overall, you may not like it, but I think the GOP is in a better position to let these things go and assert them as states’ rights issues. The culture war isn’t ‘winnable’ on a national scale, it’s something better engaged on local levels.

Support for Israel under pretext of mutual national security interests would be palatable. Supporting Israel under pretext of Christian-Jewish friendship or something of this nature, wouldn’t be.


142 posted on 11/09/2012 9:34:55 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: TigersEye

What does “fervently pro-life” imply?


143 posted on 11/09/2012 9:39:55 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Look at post 127, the GOP doesn’t do much in the way of trying to appeal to full conservatives, they give a little lip service, do some gun stuff, wave the flag a little, but then they do like post 127.

There is no pool of voters out there in the democrat party that are eager to become republicans for conservative economic theory and Ayn Rand, but they can be appealed to on the eternal issues of family friendly, culture friendly, society friendly, social issues.


144 posted on 11/09/2012 9:41:18 PM PST by ansel12
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To: The Wizard

Bull shite.
The fraud was a liberal Republican


145 posted on 11/09/2012 9:41:37 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: TigerClaws

What a flapping moron.
There has never been an anti-mormon post on FR, there have been many anti-mormonISM threads in the religion forum.
But I really do not expect people who are Romney lap dogs to understand the difference.


146 posted on 11/09/2012 9:43:55 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: 'smith

Are you God?


147 posted on 11/09/2012 9:44:35 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

You have been using the word ‘fervently’ over and over on this thread so I can only assume you have no idea what ‘pro-life’ means. Pro-life means anti-abortion for starters.


148 posted on 11/09/2012 9:45:31 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: RginTN

Good lord that is a stupid comment


149 posted on 11/09/2012 9:45:40 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: ansel12

Correct, I tend to vote Republican, albeit not enthusiastically. I certainly won’t vote Democrat.

My political outlooks largely revolve around wanting to see statism defeated and rolled back in all its forms—fiscally and socially. I’m not particularly convinced that it’s possible to legislate people into being moral.


150 posted on 11/09/2012 9:46:57 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: ansel12

Democrat voters in the main aren’t going to switch away, because many are convinced that liberty comes through government instead of through themselves.

But there’s plenty of largely unaffiliated folks and true independents who don’t believe that, yet also don’t like the perceived moralistic bent of the GOP.


151 posted on 11/09/2012 9:51:45 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: ravager

Nice back peddle...


152 posted on 11/09/2012 9:52:22 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Utmost Certainty
yet also don’t like the perceived moralistic bent of the GOP.

IOWs they want the right to kill babies. Don't worry I don't expect an honest or direct answer from you. In my 12+ years here I have never seen more trollish posting than what you're doing here.

153 posted on 11/09/2012 9:53:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: ansel12
That's only if you consider percentages. In absolute numbers that %21 Evangelical is probably much larger in absolutely number then the people of color/other religion. And then there are 8 million that didn't vote, they stayed home and passively voted Obama. Obama could not have simply won with minority votes in CO,NM,NV,OH,VA,FL.
154 posted on 11/09/2012 9:56:48 PM PST by ravager
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To: ravager
That's only if you consider percentages.

If you're going to compare one group to another and lay judgments on them, which is what you've been doing, then percentages are the only thing that matters. You are amazingly bigoted.

155 posted on 11/09/2012 9:58:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

Not trolling. Like I said, I’ve been here too long for that. I’m only sharing an opinion, comprising what I’ve observed from spending time among many different political circles out of curiosity to see how they think and why. And from what I can tell, the Republican Party loses heaps of potential voters due to categorical stances on certain social issues.


156 posted on 11/09/2012 9:59:56 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: ejonesie22
You still chokin’?
157 posted on 11/09/2012 10:00:04 PM PST by ravager
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Very interesting article. Thanks for posting it.


158 posted on 11/09/2012 10:00:41 PM PST by bd476
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To: TigersEye

Boy, you are trying hard to get some attention aren’t you?


159 posted on 11/09/2012 10:02:03 PM PST by ravager
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To: Utmost Certainty

Posters who bait a thread with accusations and unsupported statements and then refuse to answer direct questions are trolls. That is the definition of trolling. Anyone who has been here since ‘02 and claims they don’t know what the pro-life platform of the Republican Party is is lying and a troll.


160 posted on 11/09/2012 10:03:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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