Posted on 11/09/2012 1:44:23 PM PST by GlockThe Vote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFruN-PDAzY
She warned the GOP back in August many times not to ignore Ron Paul or his supporters or some of the issues he advocated.
Looks like Sarah was right.
Between what they did to her and ron paul - looks like the republican party screwed the pooch.
Correct - WE DO NOT HAVE THE NUMBERS ANY MORE!
You think we will win in 2016 running another generic repub like mccain romney dole bush?
I don’t agree with his views on nat’l security, not seeing the Islamist radicals for what they are. He is pro life and his view on immigration is that if we don’t give them freebies and hire them most of them would go home. I agree with him that we can’t just keep printing money.
Absolutely not. and if people stopped living in fear in the primaries and castigating conservatism and conservatism (that is not the libertarian population) the Republicans are done.
The cowards need to elect a conservative and stop the endless whining “he is the only guy who can win” BS.
The core group of Republicans are opposed to everything on the Libertarian Party platform?
http://www.lp.org/platform
“...those who hate Paul only cite the drug thing...”
His lack of support for Israel comes to mind. So does the fact that an anti-Semitic fringe found refuge in his ‘08 and ‘12 campaigns. Paul refused to repudiate them.
His campaign reminds me very much of Henry Wallace’s in 1948. When asked to repudiate pro-Soviet Communists who were supporting Wallace’s campaign, he refused to do so.
The years may change - but kooky fringe candidates essentially remain the same.
I used to think he is pro-life however he voted in favor of transportation of minors over state lines without parental notification.
He voted in favor of the morning after pill.
Screw the Republicans. Where are the republicans?
I bet she was blocked out. Should she fight the GOP-e to support their candidate? Or, maybe she couldn't bring herself to go along with them.
I don’t know about that particular vote but I know he even voted against some bills he sponsored after they added amendments he didn’t agree with. When looking at the voting record, you need to look at the amendments sometimes they are a breaker.
BFL
We marginalized a fringe nutball who wants to legalize pot and deal with terrorism abroad with a “its not our problem” philosophy. The Paulistas aren’t conservative backers, there mostly dumb, confused children who think it’d be cool to piss off their liberal parents by voting for a Republican.
The last thing we need to do post-2012 is go in that crazy direction.
Dear RLC Supporter:
Thank you all for your efforts during this challenging election season. Republican Liberty Caucus members played leading roles on every front in 2012 - running for office, working on campaigns, donating unprecedented amounts of money to our federal PAC, helping to promote and fundraise for candidates and serving as delegates to state conventions and ultimately the national convention in Tampa where we were witnesses to the beginnings of the events which culminated in this week's historic defeat for the Republican Party establishment. You worked hard with little respect or reward for a cause whose victory sometimes seemed distant and in peril.
There are many who are claiming that this election was a massive defeat for the Republican Party, but after studying the results for two days I'm surprised to be able to report what looks like some major victories for the liberty movement within the party. Yes, the party took it on Mitt Romney's chiseled chin, but the party's losses are not necessarily our losses and while I certainly would have liked to have done better, in comparison to the party as a whole our candidates and our issues fared remarkably well.
Perhaps the most significant victory is a sign of change to come While the party lost seats in both houses of Congress, the balance of power shifted and liberty candidates gained seats while the party was losing them. Our endorsees and other sympathetic candidates now control a larger number of seats in both houses of Congress than ever before. We lost only one incumbent House member and gained at least two solid seats in the Senate while the party lost 3 and gained more seats in the House than the party as a whole lost, effectively doubling the significance of our wins. The failure of the party leadership and the Romney campaign did suppress turnout and that flowed down to races at lower levels, costing some of our most promising candidates wins they might have had in better years. Yet 2014 is just around the corner and I expect many of those same candidates to run again and in an off year election we c an anticipate the same kind of strong results we had in 2010 and more.
Two RLC candidates won new seats for liberty in the Senate, Ted Cruz (TX) and past endorsee Jeff Flake (AZ). Four new liberty candidates took seats in the House, including RLC endorsees Steve Stockman (TX-36), Kerry Bentivolio (MI-11), Thomas Massie (KY-4) and Ted Yoho (FL-3) who was overlooked for endorsement. Many previously endorsed candidates won reelection in the House, including Justin Amash, Tom McClintock, Walter Jones, Jim Jordan, Mick Mulvaney and others. Perhaps most significantly hundreds of our endorsees won or held onto seats in state government, giving us a very deep bench to run for higher office going into the 2014 election. Many other great candidates ran strong campaigns and came awfully close to winning, but the weakness of the national campaign and lack of support from state and national party organizations were challenges they couldn't overcome. With more indepe ndent funding and resources we expect them to do much better in 2014.
We also saw victories on key issues in several states. Marijuana was legalized in Colorado and Washington and decriminalized in Massachusetts, which is likely to lead to a very important showdown over state sovereignty as the Obama administration and the DEA crack down on those states attempt to form independent drug policy. In addition, Washington, Maryland and Maine voted to legalize same-sex marriage, a clear challenge to the unconstitutional federal Defense of Marriage Act, and while we prefer a non-governmental solution to the marriage issue, the passage of these propositions was at least a politically achievable step towards greater liberty for more people. Less publicized but possibly equally important, Alabama, Montana and Wyoming voted on initiatives to nullify aspects of Obamacare within their borders, another development likely to provoke a constitutional showdown with the Obama administration. It's not going to be a n easy four years for the president or his unconstitutional abuses of power.
Finally, after the attacks on the grassroots of the party launched by the Romney campaign, party leaders and special interests, in many ways a Romney defeat is a victory for Liberty Republicans. In the long term it may benefit us more than defeating Obama would have. The party establishment and the special interests which back them placed all their bets on Romney and his failure was their failure as well. They have lost credibility with all the grassroots groups in the party and they are saddled with the blame for the abuses of power and bad choices which led to this debacle. Now everyone knows what we have known for years. If the Republican Party is to survive it needs a substantive change of leadership and a return to principles which can win elections.
After this election it is much more likely that our next presidential nominee will have strong liberty principles and Rand Paul's stock as a presidential contender is way up. We should also expect to see the party distance itself from single issue voters on the religious right and a deemphasis of divisive social issues. This might well be the jolt the party needs to become the fiscally conservative and socially tolerant party which it needs to be in order to win and if it doesn't happen quickly, we're here to give change a push.
While this may not be the time for open celebration, this election has created many opportunities to expand the liberty movement within the Republican Party and our voices will be stronger and our opponents weaker than every before as we start a new political cycle. We have more members with substantial campaign experience, we have better campaign funding channels and we have more experienced candidates. Plus the Obama administration will supply us with plenty of opportunities for issue activism which can raise the profile of RLC leaders and our pro-liberty, small government agenda.
I'm looking forward to two years of great opportunities for growing liberty and winning key victories in the ongoing campaign to reclaim the Republican Party and make it the vehicle for the restoration of the Republic.
For liberty in our time,
Dave Nalle, National Chairman
There’s no point in even a polite discussion about Obama vs. Romney at this point. I just pointed out how that meme was perpetuated on social media and had an effect.
A good op-ed on Tuesdays outcome and the GOP.
Deja Vu All Over Again- Another “can’t lose” moderate...loses
“...Lord insists we need more “New Reagans” — people of all backgrounds, all races, all religions — who are well-versed in conservatism.
And where did Marco Rubio, now hailed by the Republican establishment as a 2016 favorite, come from? Not from the RINO establishment. It backed Charlie “Tan-in-a-Can” Crist and fought Rubio tooth and nail. It was the Tea Party and Constitutional Conservative movement that gave birth to Rubio, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, etc.
There are flawed candidates, to be sure, among those backed by the conservative wing of the Republican Party. RINOs point to Sharon Angle and Richard Mourdock, for example, forgetting that no one wins 100 percent of their slate. Until the afternoon of election day, when the unions started busing in voters from places unknown, Angle was in fact leading Harry Reid handily.
And one inappropriate and/or misconstrued remark by Mourdock (and a crackpot third-party candidate) helped cook his campaign.
It’s not the conservatives who need to go away. It’s the RINO establishment that should make themselves scarce. Once again, a mushy centrist — who supposedly would appeal to wide swaths of the electorate — lost in a race that should have been a slamdunk.
And in this existential showdown between liberty and tyranny, Mitt Romney could not even attract the same number of voters as... John McCain. Constitutional conservatives, Tea Party conservatives, and fiscal conservatives don’t need to retreat. The RINO country club set needs to cede control to the true heart of the party. And if they refuse to cede power, we will defeat them as we have time and time again.”
Article link: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2012/11/deja-vu-all-over-again-another-cant.html
Also remember how “unifying” the RINO country club set were in Indiana when Lugar lost in the primaries. Due to Lugar’s childish ego centric attacks on Mourdock, the GOP lost what should have been a win.
Lugar to me exemplifies why as the above op-ed states the RINO’s need to retire to the pasture. But they won’t. They, like many career politicians, are corrupted by power and only give lip service to love of country.
In closing I was chatting with a friend and she stated that Palin/Rubio would have beaten BHO, even when one includes the suspicious voting that we are witnessing post-election.
//Hilarious how the Gimmidats know enough...
That’s a keen observation. Elite GOP can’t even pretend to be nice people, most of them, unless they’re in front of a camera.
Look at the Dem coalition, blacks, and hispanics, Jews and Arabs, young single whites, single career women. If GOP were to lose next three elections and become less of a threat to the coalition, how long will blacks work with hispanics? More fun, how long will Jews work with Arabs? As the young get older, marry and have to pay taxes, how long will he support entitlements?
I agree, GOP mistreatment of Ron Paul supporters at the convention and state GOP replacing Ron Paul delegates won with establishment ones really pissed the Ron Paul supporters off. Main problem is the GOP have too much relationship with Wall Street bankers, Fed Reserve and etc. These guys were not going to let any anti Fed Reserve and Wall Street Bankers take root in any of the two major parties. The GOP complied with their demands and rather risk defeat then have a political movement that will disband the Fed Reserve or rein in Wall Street Bankers.
My only advice to retain sanity is to step back and look at the big picture. The US is a facist nation (big corporations working with big gov against Main Street America). If you are not part of high society (term from the Guilded Age) and worst if you represent a threat to their interests they will mobilize MSM, use ideological hostile political fractions against you. Like one person said, in America politics means you can run and have strangers come up to you and personally hate your guts.
I say it once and I will say it again. No matter who is POTUS, the Fed Reserve have decided that the US cannot pay down their debt (tipping point has been reached), and will inflate their way out at 5% a year. It means the middle class (Dems and GOP alike) will lose half of their buying power every 14 years assuming no unforeen event occurs that can cause the inflation rate to rocket. Or the Fed Reserve experts miscalculate the velocity of money due to money printing and ignite high inflation.
Either or, the future is clear, the US middle class will go the way of the Brazilian post WW2 middle class. Brazil after the war had the same percentage of middle class as US, but she over borrowed in the 1960’s. Excessive debt repaid by devaluation of the currency was how Brazil dealt with debt they could not repay. Today Brazil is debt free, and in position to re emerge. Problem is the middle class was decimated in the process.
The only hope the US has is export her natural resources of lumber, oil and natural gas, coal and food to new and emerging nations. That will mean the EPA must pull back and let miners, and drillers rip. Otherwise we go the way of Greece, Spain, Italy and France.
Demagogue and Pander
Romney could have pandered to the Libertarians by making a Fed Audit and cutting off money to foreign countries part of his platform. He should have learned some of Ron Pauls code words and used them. Same goes for Tea Party issues. Sarah should have been front and center. Romney was stupid not to use her. Dems always Pander to their base factions.
Pubbies also need to demagogue like the Dims. They should be front and center now, blaming Obama for the pain and suffering on Staten Island. They need to complain and blame Dims with every breath, even stuff Dims don't control.
The GOP needs to declare that the demos have War on Men and promise a free case of beer.
There ya go!
...and a box of ammo.
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