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Weekly Preppers' Thread
11/9/12 | Kartographer

Posted on 11/09/2012 6:37:04 AM PST by Kartographer

Weekly Preppers'Thread to post progress, good buys, DIY projects, advice and ideas.


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First up MRE Depot has Yoders Canned bacon on sale $139.95 when you use PROMO CODE: 2PLUSBACON

Meat candy for all!

1 posted on 11/09/2012 6:37:08 AM PST by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

How many pounds is that?


2 posted on 11/09/2012 6:38:59 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

http://www.mredepot.com/servlet/the-364/Yoder%E2%80%99s-Celebrity-Canned-Bacon/Detail

Each can is 9 ounces of fully cooked and drained bacon. Between 2-3/4 and 3-1/4 pounds of raw bacon go into each can. Each can is the highest quality fresh #1 bacon slices. Cured to our specifications, cooked and then hand wrapped, rolled and packed in the U.S.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 6:41:42 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

That’s over $20/lb!


4 posted on 11/09/2012 6:44:51 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Kartographer

B F L !


5 posted on 11/09/2012 6:45:48 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


6 posted on 11/09/2012 6:46:18 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


7 posted on 11/09/2012 6:47:02 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Folks, we got less than a year until the “shift”.
Time to stop messin’ around.

This is no longer a hobby.


8 posted on 11/09/2012 6:49:30 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: stuartcr

It’s pre-cooked:

Each can is 9 ounces of fully cooked and drained bacon. Between 2-3/4 and 3-1/4 pounds of raw bacon go into each can. Each can is the highest quality fresh #1 bacon slices. Cured to our specifications, cooked and then hand wrapped, rolled and packed in the U.S.


9 posted on 11/09/2012 6:49:47 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Sir, I am getting double pings on all of the Prepper Posts. Are there two lists? If so, maybe I could be on just one of them?

Blessings, and thanks for your help.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 6:53:15 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Kartographer

Sounds delicious and handy, but pretty pricey.


11 posted on 11/09/2012 6:54:05 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

Between 2-3/4 and 3-1/4 pounds of raw bacon go into each can.

2.75 lbs x 16 oz = 44 oz 9oz / 44 = 80% loss in cooking? Seems high

But it is bacon.

If it was really originally 2.75 lbs before cooking x 12 packages per case, it would originally have been 33 lbs of bacon before cooking. $140.00 before tax or $4.25 per lb.


12 posted on 11/09/2012 6:55:28 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea; All

Sorry about the double PINGS. I think there is still some glitch in FR that’s causing it. It’s happen to often to be me and I post from two different computers. Any computer geeks have any ideas??


13 posted on 11/09/2012 6:56:18 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: stuartcr

If you calculate at 2 3/4 lb. raw bacon per can it comes out to around $4.25 lb. That’s a bit more tolerable.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 6:58:36 AM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: listenhillary

Before cooking doesn’t really matter. 12 9oz cans of edible product for $140, is expensive to me.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 6:59:43 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

12 9oz cans = around 36 lbs. of raw bacon $139.99 divided by 36 = $3.90 a pound.


16 posted on 11/09/2012 6:59:53 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea; Kartographer

Ditto

Ditto


17 posted on 11/09/2012 7:00:36 AM PST by Obadiah (Americans lusted for Obama. Give them Obama! Everything he Constitutionally asks for.)
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To: stuartcr

Only if your other option is eating the raw bacon. That way you would get your moneys worth. ;)


18 posted on 11/09/2012 7:02:24 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

But you don’t get 2.75lb of raw bacon, you get 9oz of cooked bacon, and you don’t get the benefit of being able to use the renderings.

12x9=108...108/16=6/75...140/6.75=20.7


19 posted on 11/09/2012 7:04:16 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Kartographer

In case everyone didn’t know already, Wal-mart has by far the best deal I’ve found on the 15oz cans of pink salmon. Their Great Value brand is only about $2.34 if I recall correctly. I have about 40 cans already...they’re the ones that are dated five years out, currently like Sept 2017.

I’m pretty sure that’s cheaper than TUNA. I’ve noticed they’re out sometimes lately, so others are figuring it out to. Regardless, their price on DeMing’s (?) is the lowest too.


20 posted on 11/09/2012 7:05:55 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Mich Patriot

Sorry, “to” s/b “too”. Proofreading is my friend.


21 posted on 11/09/2012 7:07:31 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: stuartcr

“you don’t get the benefit of being able to use the renderings.”

That is a good point.

But... it’s BACON. Bacon often trumps logic.


22 posted on 11/09/2012 7:08:02 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary

I think I’ll stick to canned hams and lard...won’t go broke rotating your stock.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 7:16:13 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

Just wait until the 3rd year after the Zombies attack.

By then you will pay an enormous amount for one piece of bacon, if you can remember what bacon tastes like.

;-)

cheers


24 posted on 11/09/2012 7:22:36 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: stuartcr

Fully cooked a TEN year shelf-life, sorry I don’t see the down side.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 7:23:12 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: thackney

By the 3rd year of the zombie attack, I’ll probably have run out of ammunition and will be a zombie anyway.


26 posted on 11/09/2012 7:30:13 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

If you had bacon to offer, you could hire guards with their own ammunition...


27 posted on 11/09/2012 7:31:37 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: stuartcr
HOW TO HOME CAN BACON IN A PRESSURE CANNER

You can preserve bacon yourself at home in a pressure canner..

There are a lot of videos on YouTube showing the method of canning bacon yourself.
Just search on YouTube for terms like "canned bacon", "Pressure Canning Bacon", etc.

Here is one video that does a good job of showing the process:

Pressure Canning Bacon

Here is a list of videos showing how to can a variety of meats and other foods:

Home Canning


28 posted on 11/09/2012 7:37:18 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then." -- Philip K. Dick)
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To: Kartographer

OK, I guess if you rotate your stock every 10 yrs, it’s a good deal. I imagine the cost is factored in to the individuals rotation cycle. I just think a lot of prepper suppliers and their products, are overpriced, especially food items and storage devices. Seems like you could prepare and can your own bacon. Has anyone tried it?


29 posted on 11/09/2012 7:40:57 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Kartographer

Prepper money saving idea:

When eating out and your server has that lib “look” that is
obvious. You know... tats and kinda hipster looking, just
put this in the tip line

“Sorry.. new taxes took all my tip funds. None left for you”

Then spend that savings on prepper supplies.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 7:58:00 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: Mich Patriot

Walgreens and Bimart will have national brand salmon on sale occassionally at $2.50 or less....


31 posted on 11/09/2012 8:10:49 AM PST by cherry
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To: Kartographer

have you tried this ?....how’s it taste?


32 posted on 11/09/2012 8:12:54 AM PST by cherry
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To: Iron Munro

I’ve done it. Works like a charm. Used bacon ends and pieces. Canned everything but fish.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 8:15:47 AM PST by Stentor
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To: Kartographer; blam; The Duke; WakeUpAndVote; JRandomFreeper; Bride Of Old Sarge; ChocChipCookie; ...

Greetings, Folks!

I wanted to share with y’all what’s been happening here at The Bunker in the way of preparedness - especially in the Anything Can Happen Department.

As most everyone knows from the recent nuptials, Sarge and the Bride have two girls, Brainiac and Jailbait, who live with us. The son, Maniac, was living with his family in El Paso.

Was.

It seems that Maniac, his wife Mocha, and their girl Little Diva, were staying with family while they built themselves a nest egg. HER family (Holder’s People) threw them out with barely any prior warning (the words “white boy” were used repeatedly). So after a kitchen-table conference, Sarge and The Bride got them moved here to The Bunker. It took a four-day trek across five states, two packed vehicles with one limping all the way, but they bugged out successfully and we got them here safe and sound.

Now, we have a new situation. Five adults, an emo teen, a toddler, two cats and a dog are now under one roof. And the activity level has quadrupled. Furniture has been relocated; The Bunker has been GI’ed; appliances and storage space reorganized; food and menus replanned; and future ops discussed.

It REALLY helps if your new tribe members enjoy handyman chores, fixing and building things, creative cooking, campfires in the backyard, and socializing as a group. Maniac and Mocha are also EAGER to learn everything Sarge can teach them about weapons and marksmanship. Mocha now wants her own handgun; this chick is a rare treat.

We now hold weekly Tribal Councils to discuss ways and means, and upcoming events. All vehicles are combat-parked, fuel topped off, and necessary maintenance completed. All pleasure trips, cruising at the mall, and non-essential errands are curtailed, pending on how the tactical situation develops. Purchases are now done after a voice vote. Physical improvements to The Bunker are discussed, then carried out with all hands on deck (and that includes Jailbait, after much whining, protesting, and wall-to-wall counseling).

Maniac and his detachment report that El Paso, and San Antonio, are pretty much hostile territory. There is no sustainability for long-term survival. Local municipal gun laws are restrictive; Maniac was shocked to realize how relaxed the gun laws are here in the Sunshine State. And the race-relations climate in El Paso is a suitcase full of ugly.

We are adjusting fire on a whole list of preps very shortly. One big thing is the food stocks. Preps for four now have to stretch for seven, including Little Diva’s needs. Milk is now a rationed item. Consumables are being revised; the biggest being tobacco products.

But the biggest challenge of all, is behavior modification. The family before Sarge’s arrival had a “just-in-time” mindset. Nightly trips to the stores for cigarettes and Red Bulls. Less than two days’ stores and supplies. The hurricane box was badly depleted. Thankfully the Bunker is off the grid for water, with a well-pump and a septic tank; but the family couldn’t spell “water conservation”, let alone practice it.

This has been Sarge’s greatest achievement. Food storage has tripled. Water issues are improving. Redundant systems are all over the place. Locks repaired, security lights installed, vehicles secured, and blackout curtains over vulnerable windows.

We’re now, just like you, watching the drama unfold, with our plans in place and our powder dry. Here’s hoping you do the same.

SARGE


34 posted on 11/09/2012 8:20:23 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Iron Munro

Have you tried it yet?


35 posted on 11/09/2012 8:25:23 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Kartographer

bookmark


36 posted on 11/09/2012 8:28:18 AM PST by mom3boys (I want to Go Galt.)
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To: Kartographer
For those stocking up OTC meds for what's coming, I discovered our local Walmart (if you aren't boycotting it) has a discount shelf where all OTC meds are 88 cents!

One item to check out is their anti-diarrheal (under the "Quality Plus" brand). For 88 cents you get 12 caplets that contain the SAME medicine as Immodium (Loperamide HCL 2 mg!

This is a must have medicine at one tenth the price.

37 posted on 11/09/2012 8:35:57 AM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Old Sarge
Prayers up for you and yours, especially with a teen in the house. Sheesh. Chains and basement come to mind.

On food costs... having specialized in feeding large numbers of hungry airmen... bulk pasta is about the cheapest meal that Americans will eat and enjoy.

Poverty cooking is a specialized art.

If you need help with meal planning, ping me in freepmail. I will do whatever I can to help.

/johnny

38 posted on 11/09/2012 8:43:14 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JDoutrider
Amen. You can die of diarrhea. Not to mention, being combat ineffective.

I have Immodium in all my first aid kits.

/johnny

39 posted on 11/09/2012 8:48:11 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Old Sarge

I’m really enjoying these updates. What does ‘combat parked’ mean?


40 posted on 11/09/2012 8:52:13 AM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: Kartographer

Would you (or other Freepers) recommend any books of instruction in basic life skills without modern tools/appliances similar to the Foxfire series?

http://www.foxfire.org/thefoxfirebooks.aspx

For those unfamiliar with FoxFire, Volume 1:

The Foxfire Book

Price: $19.95
This volume, the original anthology, celebrates the home life and creative history of Appalachia, featuring sections on hog dressing, log cabin building, soap making, basket weaving, planting by the signs, preserving foods, making butter, snake lore, hunting tales, faith healing, and moonshining.

Table of Contents:

“This is the way I was raised up”
Aunt Arie
Wood
Tools and Skills
Building a Log Cabin
Chimney Building
White Oak Splits
Making a Hamper out of White Oak Splits
Making a Basket out of White Oak Splits
An Old Chair Maker Shows How
Rope, Straw, and Feathers are to Sleep on
A Quilt is Something Human
Soapmaking
Cooking on a Fireplace, Dutch Oven, and Wood Stove
Daniel Manous
Mountain Recipes
Preserving Vegetables
Preserving Fruit
Churning Your Own Butter
Slaughtering Hogs
Curing and Smoking Hog
Recipes for Hog
Weather Signs
Planting by the Signs
The Buzzard and the Dog
Home Remedies
Hunting
Dressing and Cooking Wild Animal Foods
Hunting Tales
Snake Lore
Moonshining as a Fine Art
Faith Healing
Hillard Green


41 posted on 11/09/2012 8:58:21 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Cookie, “combat parking” means backing into a parking space, or parking the car with the nose out. That way, you just stuff the car in forward and gas it.

Nose-in parking can get you trapped by enterprising looters with a vehicle that parks you in...


42 posted on 11/09/2012 9:00:48 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Old Sarge

This is also useful when several cars are trying to quickly leave at the same time. I’ve worked at some oil/gas facilities where this was required as a safety issue.


43 posted on 11/09/2012 9:05:24 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Carla Emery started writing The Encyclopedia of Country Living in 1969 during the back-to-the-land movement of that time. She continued to add content and refine the information over the years, and the book went from a self-published mimeographed document to a book of 928 pages. This 40th Anniversary Edition reflects the most up-to-date resource information and the most personal version of the book that became Carla Emery’s life work. It is the original manual of basic country skills that have proved essential and necessary for people living in the country, the city, and everywhere in between.

The practical advice in this exhaustive reference tool includes how to cultivate a garden, buy land, bake bread, raise farm animals, make sausage, can peaches, milk a goat, grow herbs, churn butter, build a chicken coop, catch a pig, cook on a wood stove, and much, much more.

This is the essential resource for country living, modern homesteading, growing and preserving foods, and cooking from scratch. Carla Emery’s The Encyclopedia of Country Living contains 1,000,000 words, 2,000+ recipes, and 1,500+ mail-order sources (for everything she tells you how to do, she also tells you where to get the supplies to do it).

This book is so basic, so thorough, so reliable, that it deserves a place in every home.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1570618402/


44 posted on 11/09/2012 9:07:16 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary

Thank you. I added that to my purchases today.


45 posted on 11/09/2012 9:11:23 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: stuartcr; thackney

“By the 3rd year of the zombie attack, I’ll probably have run out of ammunition and will be a zombie anyway.”

“If you had bacon to offer, you could hire guards with their own ammunition…”

You could even be prepared for Muslim zombies, by using the bacon as ammunition :)


46 posted on 11/09/2012 9:12:41 AM PST by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: Iron Munro

Bookmarked the canned bacon link. Thanks.

This week’s preps - a neighbor was clearing out a shed and gave me a ton of flower pots and a nearly new electric lawnmower. Hey, use the electric mower now and save wear and tear my gas one. I’m not into container gardening but it may come to that if we’re forced to bring such activities inside. I tried to talk to the neighbor into keeping useful things what with the direction the country is headed but as usual it went over his head.


47 posted on 11/09/2012 9:27:01 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: cherry

I have tried the Yoder’s Bacon. It is good. I cook it in a non stick pan and there is enough grease (though not much) left to cook eggs and give some flavor. It is very thinly sliced so there are many pieces in the can and I have to freeze some of the can to preserve it.


48 posted on 11/09/2012 9:33:14 AM PST by goosie
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To: Old Sarge

LOL I call that, “Man-style parking”. My husband does that all the time. I suppose I should work on getting better at backing into parking spaces.


49 posted on 11/09/2012 9:51:27 AM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: JDoutrider; JRandomFreeper
One item to check out is their anti-diarrheal (under the "Quality Plus" brand). For 88 cents you get 12 caplets that contain the SAME medicine as Immodium (Loperamide HCL 2 mg!

Thanks for the tip.

BTW I would also recommend a product similar to Kaopectate.

IIRC Loperamide (Immodium) works by reducing bowel contractions. Thus, if your diarrhea is caused by food poisoning (and the body is trying to rid itself of toxins), the diarrhea may return, after the Immodium wears off. (I've experienced this.)

Koapectate bonds with the stool, thickening it. While it isn't as fast acting as Immodium, the chance of possibly prolonging the diarrhea is much less.

Which is why I keep both in stock.

Also, in a pinch, apple vinegar can help reduce the symptoms of diarrhea. (As I learned, when I once had the runs, was out of immodium/kaopectate, and didn't DARE risk going to the store.)

50 posted on 11/09/2012 9:59:41 AM PST by holymoly (Since Hollywood leftists support higher taxes, let them lead by example. 99% on all of them.)
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