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Values, Not Demographics, Won the Election (He's serious!)
The New York Times ^ | November 7, 2012 | Joel Benenson

Posted on 11/08/2012 1:05:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

MUCH of the coverage of Tuesday’s results has focused on the strength of Barack Obama’s coalition — minorities, women and young voters. But that analysis misses the real point. The contours of the 2012 presidential race were shaped less by the country’s changing demographics than by the underlying attitudes and values of American voters, who are always far more complex than they appear to pollsters.

The president’s victory was a triumph of vision, not of demographics. He won because he articulated a set of values that define an America that the majority of us wish to live in: A nation that makes the investments we need to strengthen and grow the middle class. A nation with a fair tax system, and affordable and excellent education for all its citizens. A nation that believes that we’re most prosperous when we recognize that we are all in it together.

From the 2012 campaign’s earliest days, analysts focused on historic economic and political metrics to explain the steep uphill climb Mr. Obama faced in his re-election bid: no sitting president had been re-elected with unemployment higher than 7.2 percent; or the Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index below 78 percent; or the “right track” rating for the country as low as it was.

Such conventional indicators failed to capture the mind-set of the American people who always had a broader view of the nation’s economic situation and what had happened to their lives...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: dnctalkingpoints; economy; garbageingarbageout; nyslimes; obama; romney; thebiglie; unemployment
I'm speechless.
1 posted on 11/08/2012 1:05:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; pookie18
FORWARD 2016
2 posted on 11/08/2012 1:08:06 PM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Marxists have values.

They’re just different than ours.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 1:09:25 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL Vision? Misguided is more like it. Which way is he going? Forward to the fiscal cliff?


4 posted on 11/08/2012 1:09:32 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why? All he is saying is that Obama sold a bill of goods to the imbecile class, a very inclusive class at that.
5 posted on 11/08/2012 1:10:22 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
only 18 percent strongly agree that “the middle class always does well when big corporations do well.”

It's hard to be optimistic when the people are so ignorant.

6 posted on 11/08/2012 1:11:41 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually, he’s right, Vet. However, the values that one are the “progressive, immoral” values of the left—not the freedom loving, responsibility ones of the right. I deleted someone form my facebook account who said the right needed to give up their values and “go with the flow.” Check out the bible passages that speak of the endtimes coming when (such as) women hate their children (abortion) and right is wrong. So many people in this country who believe they are Christians are REALLY going to be surprised, and I believe that time is getting very close.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 1:11:58 PM PST by DallasDeb
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Free Stuff from Santa Claus has value. Multiple stuff would then have values.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 1:12:04 PM PST by Paladin2 (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It wasn’t till a few weeks left before the election that the teleprompter bosses printed a skimpy pamphlet for 0bama to wave at the fools.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 1:14:18 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Gluttons for punishment.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The kind of “values” my mother told us to avoid like the plague when they tried to offer us free school lunches.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 1:15:30 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Which is why Bill Clinton was out there scampaigning for this douche saying “voters want a man that they can TRUST!”

War on women, my arse.


11 posted on 11/08/2012 1:16:13 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STPostUCK ON STUPID)
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To: DallasDeb

I unfollowed some fool on Twitter who said same.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 1:16:57 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Gluttons for punishment.)
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To: mjp

So less than 18% work for or have 401k retirement money in big corporations?


13 posted on 11/08/2012 1:17:55 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STPostUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

So less than 18% work for or have 401k retirement money in big corporations?

Which will soon be confiscated by the feds for redistribution under the guise of “protecting” our investments.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 1:26:38 PM PST by Catmom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Values, Not Demographics, Won the Election (He’s serious!)
I’m speechless.”

I’m sure he’s serious... and I’m sure he’s right.

When you think of “values” you think of YOUR values, which are also shared by most freepers.

What he’s talking about are HIS values, which he describes as...

1. A nation with a “fair” tax system (which means the “filthy” rich pay 90% of the taxes and the bottom 50% none)

2. “Affordable” and excellent education for all its “citizens” (by affordable again he means the rich pay for it and by citizens he means inhabitants)

3. A nation that believes that we’re most prosperous when we recognize that we are “all in it together”. (this is a focus-group-tested variation of “from each according to their abilities and to each according to their needs”... by force if it need be.)

Unfortunately we’ve reached the tipping point where the majority has bought into this and are benefitting (temporarily) from it.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 1:33:13 PM PST by aquila48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Baby killers and Welfare Queens and Kings the Value voters.

Welcome to Obamaville.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 1:33:55 PM PST by funfan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This almost made me puke.

Every oerson that voted for Obama voted for something for themselves. Entitlements, Homos, women for abortion rights and free rubbers Black because Obama was black AND for entitlements.

NOT ONE VOTED for America.

Vision my ass, His only vision is on his Christmas trip to Hawaii.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 1:39:34 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Catmom

Right. Plus that wealth makes you rich even if you are only living off the interest. Those who draw taxpayer subsidized pensions are jealous of that stash of cash.

It needs to be shared amongst the “needy” did bought cable and concert tickets instead of saving for their future.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 1:51:47 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STPostUCK ON STUPID)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Your search skills are slipping ;-)

BETTER STORY HERE WITH COMMENTS:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/11/07/police-issue-community-alert-after-girl-abducted-raped-on-way-to-school/


19 posted on 11/08/2012 2:26:16 PM PST by wolficatZ ("We are no longer accepting comments on this article")
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To: wolficatZ

Ooops sorry wrong thread..thanks all the same ;-)


20 posted on 11/08/2012 2:39:03 PM PST by wolficatZ ("We are no longer accepting comments on this article")
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To: wolficatZ

Search hasn’t worked for me here since the third debate. Seriously.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 2:46:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Many Obama voters, but not all, have “values”. However, as Clinton used to say, “What do you mean by ‘is’?

Marxist values for many of the white elite; welfare addiction/plantation security values for many blacks; immigration and Mexican values for some Hispanics, plus dreams of taking back the SW; white guilt values for Jewish liberals; I don’t need no education values for too many black youth, because Obama will pay for their gas and rent, etc.

The old American value, which was color-blind, was that of hard work, patriotism, respect for the family, a belief in a greater being than man, and an appreciation of American exceptionalism.

I found this to be especially intrisic in many of the minority groups - Blacks, Asians, refugees from Fascism and Communism, those fleeing poverty and religious persecution, and in many individuals with a dream to success.

Today that “dream” is the “dream” in Obama’s fraudulent autobiography “Dreams from my Father”. His father was a hardcore communist, Soviet-style, who believed all that Marxist bullshit about economics and the need for an all dominant state, as well as being a racist. If it weren’t for the British in Kenya (and they were sometimes very oppressive, sometimes very essential for the establishment of an organized state), the Moslems would be killing the Christians or animists in the kind religious jihad that you see in Mali, Libya, Syria, Nigeria, Iran, etc.

The “American dream” has now become the “American Nightmare” to those who know what to look for now, and will soon be apparent to those who voted for it.

The nightmare’s opening shot starts January 1st with the next tax raises, though for many, job layoffs have already begun.

When the coal-fired energy plants shut down, and you don’t have electricity during a bad winter, just say “I voted for Obama and against CO2”. That’s their problem. My energy is from a nuclear power plant, that is, until Obama and his environmental wackos find a way to shut it down.

George Romero, Stephen King, Wes Craven and other horror story writers couldn’t have made up this coming disaster. Only a Marxist megalomaniac, posing as a liberal, could, aided and abetted by his marxist mentors/aides, self-deluding liberals, a professionally corrupt news media, ignorant racist minorities, and white liberals who have no idea what is going on in the real world, or will be coming at them in the future.

Sorry for the doom and gloom but right now, “American values” were voted down the toilet.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 2:56:43 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
greed of free things and laziness are values now???
23 posted on 11/08/2012 2:57:42 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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