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Benghazi. A view from Turkey (the Iskanderun port & Ali Sait Akin)
In-Extremis | Katechon

Posted on 11/08/2012 9:33:42 AM PST by Katechon

The Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar (The Victory) was on the port of Malta on Ausgust 27 2012.

According to a Fox News investigation, shipping records confirmed that the Al Entisar docked at the Turkish port of Iskenderun on September 6. Iskanderun, or 'Alexandrette' on the map below is quite close to Idlib (where the Syrian revolution is raging now). [source]

Fox News reported that, according to a report by the Times of London (September 14, 2012), the Al Entisar was carrying 400 tons of cargo when it dock in Iskanderun.

Some of it was humanitarian, but also reportedly weapons, described by the report as the largest consignment of weapons headed for Syria's rebels on the frontlines.

The cargo reportedly included surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles, rocket-propelled grenades and shoulder-launched missiles.

According to Fox News, the ship's Libyan captain told the Times of London that "It was reported there was a FIGHT about the weapons and who got what between the Free Syrian Army and the Muslim Brotherhood."

Back to Benghazi

According to a briefing of the State Department, Ambassador Christopher Stevens held his last meeting of the day on September 11 with Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin from 7:30pm to 8:30pm. At that point, the briefing said, “Everything is calm at 8:30 p.m. There’s nothing unusual.”

But the AP witnesses said that, “[the] neighbors all described the militants setting up checkpoints around the compound at about 8 p.m.” The checkpoints were described as being manned by bearded jihadis in pickup trucks mounted with machine guns and bearing the logo of Ansar al-Shariah, which is an al-Qaeda Front.

So the Turk had to pass out through the blockade as he departed the American compound and left the area. Did he phone a warning to Ambassador Stevens? Nope, he didn't.

And how did the Turkish Consul General get through the newly-established terrorist checkpoint? -- since “no one could get out or in,” (according to a neighbor interviewed by AP.

This point to the Turkish diplomat being complicit with the al-Qaeda-linked terrorists.

Could the discussion between Stevens and Akin has been related to the fight between the Free Syrian Army and the Muslim Brotherhood in the Al Entisar? How is al-Qaeda related to the Muslim Brotherhood? The group accused of operating the Al Entisar is the Foundation for Human Rights, and Freedoms and Humanitarian Relief (IHH), “an islamic Turkish NGO.” IHH was behind the “Free Gaza Movement.” It is a registered charity based in Cyprus, and banned by Israel in 2008. According to the Jewish Chronicle Online, FSA commanders have indeed told The Times that “a boat containing weapons,” [probably the Al-Entisar] that docked in Syria the week of September 14, 2012, was “registered to members of the IHH.” “IHH,” wrote the BBC, “raises some of its money from Islamic religious groups and has strong sympathy among Turkey’s Islamist-rooted ruling party.”

According to the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, the islamic Turkish organization is an overt supporter of Hamas, which is an islamic militant group (founded by the Muslim Brotherhood) that seized power in Gaza in 2007. According to the BBC, “The ITIC says it also has evidence the IHH has helped provide weapons and funds for ‘Islamic terrorist elements in the Middle East‘.” The ITIC has reliable information indicating that in the past IHH had links with global jihad and Islamic terrorist elements in the Middle East. Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Daniel Ayalon said, “The organisers are well-known for their ties with global Jihad, al-Qaeda and Hamas. They have a history of arms smuggling and deadly terror.”

So we shall speculate tat the IHH has been involved in the gun-running from Libya to Syria on behalf of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Samar Srewel, reportedly an FSA activist who had helped to organise the naval consignment, reportedly told The Times:

The Muslim Brotherhood, through its ties in Turkey, was seizing control of this ship and the cargo. This is what they do. They buy influence with their money and guns.

So let's speculate from those elements... The U.S. mission in Benghazi was participative in running weapons from Libya to Syria via Turkey. Then something went wrong at delivery, Free Syrian Army members fought elements of the Muslim Brotherhoo over the cargo.

This fight between the FSA and the Muslim Brotherhood is reported to the Istanbul Control Room. The Room then command the Turkish diplomat to help set up the assassination of Ambassador Stevens, and the subsequent looting of the CIA annex, which was full of weapons and cash. ====================

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1 posted on 11/08/2012 9:33:46 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

Very interesting. The other narrative that I heard was that Iran/Russia arranged the trap because of their hatred of US efforts to bring down Assad and Syria. each of these narratives would be somewhat exclusive of the other, though.

Could you please explain in detail the sources for your article? Is it from one overall web site, or many?


2 posted on 11/08/2012 9:45:50 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Katechon

I read in the Canada Free Press that their reporters had contacts in the area that claimed the whole event was a response from Russia for the American attempt to create a false flag WMD chemical attack in Syria. The attempt was intended to create a precedent for UN intervention and eventual overthrow of Assad. The article mentioned that Russian sat photos caught the transaction in the Turkish port. The Russians instructed Iran to hire three teams to attack the Benghazi mission. (Excerpt follows)

It is reasonable to suspect that these activities were more dire than just your average “gun running” operation. Since the overthrow of Qaddafi, it is estimated that upwards of 40 million tons of weapons and arms were shipped out of Libya to Syria. But it was also known inside intelligence circles that Qaddafi possessed chemical weapons in addition to numerous surface-to-air missiles. Could it be that Russia obtained unmistakable surveillance footage of the anti-Assad “rebels” being shown how to load chemical payloads onto missiles inside Turkey near the border of Syria? Weapons, of course, that were shipped from Libya by the CIA in conjunction with various Muslim Brotherhood rebel groups. If so, such weapons could be used as a “false flag” type of operation—one that would be implemented to “set-up” Assad by making it appear that he was using these weapons on forces dedicated to his overthrow.

The blowback by the international community would be swift and punishing, and the entirety of the civilized world would be demanding his overthrow. NATO would then be used to expedite his ouster, and Russia’s moral position within the international community would be weakened. Was the meeting held to show Stevens that the operation was compromised and that they had to stop?


3 posted on 11/08/2012 10:37:26 AM PST by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: Fractal Trader
Very interesting. The other narrative that I heard was that Iran/Russia arranged the trap because of their hatred of US efforts to bring down Assad and Syria. each of these narratives would be somewhat exclusive of the other, though.

The cooperation between an AQ affiliate and Turkey is a bit disconcerting, as the US was supposedly supporting Muslim Brotherhood operations in Syria via Turkey where the MB operates as an AQ rival. One hypothesis that explains it is that Putin put his foot down about the operation in Benghazi as a "red line in the sand," Zero blinked, and the Turks were allowed to deliver the "We were caught, you're dead now, sorry," message to Stevens before AQ did the deed.

Could you please explain in detail the sources for your article? Is it from one overall web site, or many?

There were scads of links in the article. Did you avail yourself of them?

4 posted on 11/08/2012 10:41:14 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Katechon; Nachum; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Candor7; Dave Mellon; ...

ping to a thread of interest


5 posted on 11/08/2012 11:21:17 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: 7thOF7th
Since the overthrow of Qaddafi, it is estimated that upwards of 40 million tons of weapons and arms were shipped out of Libya to Syria.

If that 40 million tons of weapons were all MANPADs that would be 2 billion MANPADs. Only a half million have ever been made worldwide.

6 posted on 11/08/2012 11:30:41 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: 7thOF7th; TigersEye

was the author of an article read at CFP by a Mr. Hagman (sp?)


7 posted on 11/08/2012 12:05:32 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: 7thOF7th
Interesting angles- both you and the author. My theory is that the attack was "a drug deal gone bad". Steven and his "security" team (which we now know are CIA operatives) were collecting arms and SA from Libyan miltias with the promise they would go to "brother rebels" in Syria. The elements in both countries were Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda affiliates. Turkey is aware of the operation and is on board, acting as the go between.

The Russians find out about the operation and have evidence of SA in rebel hand, satellite and other intel. Russia threatens to expose the operation unless the US ceased and decease. Imagine- Obama caught supplying a sworn enemy of the US.

At this point the US backs out of the arrangement, or as the author suggests, promises the arms now to the Syrian Free Army. Either way, the Libyans know they have been had and seek revenge and/or re-secured arms that are in or believe to be at the compound. In a last ditch effort, Akin (Turkish Consul General), gets involved to stop the attack. He is the neutral "Godfather" trying to get the warring gangs to make peace. He asks Steven to reconsider the decision at which point a deal can not be made. Akin Kisses Steven on the forehead (figuratively speaking), and leaves the compound in his car. He approaches the roadblock, rolls down his window, shakes his head no, the road block opens and he leave the scene. Shortly after, the attack begins.

8 posted on 11/08/2012 12:06:05 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Probably. To put some more perspective on that figure; if all 40 million tons was comprised of Abrams tanks that would be 591,716 Abrams tanks.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 12:10:37 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

LOL....somebody lost a decimal point.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 12:19:24 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Fractal Trader; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; onyx
In-Extremis

Is a website....with a number of articles ....I found this ONE very interesting:

The Istanbul Control Room

***************************************EXCERPT*************************************

Substantial swaths of northern Syria are now “free” zone. Especially in the province of Idlib.

I will focus on the “free” zone, especially the territory that is still called ‘Idlib.’

But who’s on the ground withstooding the Assad regime army’s, and even repelling it?

Where do the guns come from? Who buys them?

Journalists and academics categorize the fighters by naming an organization, and by assuming that in a hot war the old boundaries still stand. They don’t. It moves and changes. That’s why we need a dynamic way of informing the data.

11 posted on 11/08/2012 12:25:27 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: All
Google interactive map of Syria centered on Province of Idlib:

Click here

12 posted on 11/08/2012 12:33:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Unless you have a half a million Abrams tanks.

13 posted on 11/08/2012 12:46:30 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: 7thOF7th; 11th Commandment; TigersEye; Carry_Okie
The article at CFP by author Doug Hagmann with embedded links to three earlier articles with regard to the Russian connection to the Benghazi hit.....

Articles by Mr. Hagmann are NOT welcome on FreeRepublic ....no aware of the precise reason.

Maybe too much speculation as you will see when reading the totality of his articles.

14 posted on 11/08/2012 12:50:52 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Fractal Trader
Link to article posted earlier by the poster Katechon here:

Network of Evil. Mapping the Islamic Brigades from Benghazi to Syria.

Source In-Extremis |website.

15 posted on 11/08/2012 12:57:39 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: All; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle
Link enbedded in the article linked just above ....post #15.

What was Ambassador Stevens’ Role in the Gun Running?

16 posted on 11/08/2012 1:08:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: FARS; Alamo-Girl; PGalt; American Constitutionalist; WestCoastGal; milford421; GOPJ; JudgemAll; ...

Major ping here.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 1:27:31 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Not at:

http://www.inextremis.com/

Not at:

http://inextremisleadership.com/


18 posted on 11/08/2012 1:40:49 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader; Ernest_at_the_Beach; penelopesire; maggief

Thanks very much.

Important thread.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 2:26:05 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; TigersEye
Some rather interesting analysis to be considered.
As for the quote of some forty million tons of weapons being transferred out of Libya. Even forty tons of the type weapon transfers would seem rather dubious at best.
Perhaps four tons would be one hell of a lot considering the mix often described. Whatever.
But at least we continue to get incoming information to perhaps finalize the whole puzzle, in due time.
20 posted on 11/08/2012 2:38:56 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Fractal Trader

http://goldandguns.wordpress.com/

Home URL


21 posted on 11/08/2012 3:33:31 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ernest.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 4:54:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: onyx

Thank you for the ping. Trying to catch up tonight.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 6:08:54 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: TigersEye; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks TigersEye.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 7:07:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Tailgunner Joe

I scanned the entire page for a mention of “Russia” or “Putin” and got zero hits. I have heard reference made that the plot to kill the Americans was instigated by Putin and Iran as a response to the US taking a position against their client state, Syria.

Certainly, in terms of motive, this is highly plausible. I would like someone to sort the wheat from the chaff to look at possible Russian interference in this incident. I, personally, do not have knowledge enough to answer this question, but I hope that some dedicated researchers will explore thi.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 8:34:52 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: SunkenCiv

You’re welcome, SunkenCiv. Gotta drag you out of those dusty tombs once in a while! ;-)


26 posted on 11/08/2012 8:51:03 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the ping!


27 posted on 11/08/2012 8:51:31 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Just mythoughts

bttt


28 posted on 11/08/2012 9:01:54 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Fractal Trader

That was in one of the four articles by Hagmann....don’t remember which one....or whether he qualified in some way.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 10:13:56 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Katechon; Cindy
Speaking of IHH:

And IHH has had operations in the United States. According to a Turkish news article, IHH spent up to 10 weeks delivering relief supplies in Louisiana after Hurricane Katrina struck in 2005. In doing so, Yildirim was harshly critical of the U.S. In a news release by IHH,..." -----------IHH's Deep, Longstanding Terror Ties , INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT.org - IPT News ^ | June 8, 2010 | n/a Posted on 06/10/2010 3:22:46 AM PDT by Cindy

I suspect they were up to more than just trying to win hearts and minds. Training, perhaps?

30 posted on 11/08/2012 10:20:59 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: SunkenCiv; TigersEye
dusty tombs

ROFL!

I was reading an article last night in the April 2012 Smithsonian Mag regarding the Titanoboa....a gigantic snake.... 40 foot long swamp dweller that could take out the gigantic crocs of the swamps 50+ million years ago.

Major videos on the giant critter out or coming soon to your TV,

31 posted on 11/08/2012 10:22:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv
If not in dusty tombs SunkenCiv might be thousands of light years out there in the frozen darkness of space taking pics of twinkly little multi-colored lights. Don't expect him to answer a knock on the door if you just drop by. lol

I think I saw something on that Titanoboa. I know I did on a gigantic ancient croc. They made a life-size model of it. Just to scare themselves I guess. It was big enough to eat a cow in two or three bites.

32 posted on 11/08/2012 10:59:21 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: piasa

Nah, don’t be cynical (LOL)...they were probably just another bunch of kind hearts who care.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 2:06:18 AM PST by Cindy
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