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Posted on 11/08/2012 5:35:01 AM PST by expat1000
Good read!
It wouldn’t have made any difference who we ran against 0bama. The moochers and looters outnumber the producers and you can’t beat Santa Claus. The country we once knew is gone forever. Who knew that the movies “Idiocracy” would be so prophetic.
Its time for TEA Party Patriots to lead the GOP.
Look at the facts, we are outnumbered, pure and simple. Lincoln could not have won this election. Why is this so hard for people to grasp? Obama should have been HATED for what he has done, and what he plans to do. Instead he got about 53% of the vote.
Until we accept the simple cold truth, and re-adjust we are going to fail every time.
The takers outnumber the makers and we cannot win until this is reversed!
Wrong - Mitt is a RINO socialist. He is the grandfather of Obamacare. That is why we lost.
I cannot understand why you cannot understand it.
The blame lies 100% on the shoulders of Mitt Romney who is such a rotten politician, who ran such a smelly campaign, that even a discredited, disliked, failure beat him.
This post by Roger Magnuson on Powerline explains it 1000X better than I can:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/11/roger-magnuson-thoughts-on-the-debacle.php
John,
For what it’s worth, a few thoughts on the debacle.
As I mentioned in our intermittent club pub conversations on the subject of Moderate Mitt, I never thought he would have any real chance of beating the worst president imaginable. I never thought otherwise at any stage of the campaign.
While I respected your always incredibly informed political acumen, the simple truth for me is that wets never win. Never. Or as I mentioned to Herman Cain in LA a few months back, you never beat a demagogic vision with no vision.
Put another way, if I tried high profile cases using consultants like Stuart Stevens, I would spend boatloads of my clients’ money, and end up lamenting that it seemed impossible to lose because we had such great arguments, and ultimately blame the stupid fact finders and the demographics of the jury and their “baggage.” We’ve both seen our share of big firm litigators in that mode, haven’t we, thankfully usually on the other side.
I only know one way to win these arguments: by putting overwhelming intellectual, moral and affective pressure on the other side until my metaphors imprison and prevail. Get the theory and attack and define relentlessly, albeit of course with charm. :)
My almost visceral reaction to a relatively smart and decent guy was his manifest propensity to lose the unlosable.
Demographics? They haven’t changed much since the 2010 shellacking of the Democrats, ditto the so-called tipping point or 47 per cent.
What happened is in my view less complicated.
1) Romney let himself get defined early in the same brutal way we would define a litigation adversary early and often. The definition largely stuck and there was no early response, and no aggressive defining of an opponent who was a walking, talking incredibly rich target.
2) Romney organized a colorless and utterly insipid convention the point of which was to establish that he wasn’t as bad as the other side made him out to be and he really loved and some of his best friends were women.
3) Romney’s campaign then stumbled forward on a benign, six basic metrics referendum on the economy tack, leaving a treasure trove laden rich armory of munitions undeployed. Obamacare, the explosive issue of 2010 ignored. Social issues tied to huge avenues of attack on Obama viewed as too controversial, foreign policy neutered, Dukakis competence thought able to carry the day, all from the conventional Tory playbook, without sharp edges or ideological vision.
4) When he finally showed a pulse in the first debate and acted like he could almost be a decent trial lawyer, he got an immediate bump in the polls, and, immediately, lapsed back into a play it safe, sit on a lead, be nice and bipartisan mode. He couldn’t even do the Benghazi battle.
5) His everybody loves this country, reach across the aisle close was the final insipid wetness.
I hated to be Nate Silver but Mittens never had a chance against a terrible President with the silliest of demagogic campaigns.
So John, if we’re ever on opposite sides of major litigation again, please retain consultants like Stevens. It might be my only chance…
Love that Power Line!
It's hope - not a lot - but hope. If Romney had won we'd be stuck with 'LiberalLite' and we'd be hard pressed not to go along with it... Greenfield's right on this...
There is only 3 1/2 short years until the next RINO is nominated with the predictable associated abandonment of principles by 90% of Freepers.
In the meantime, let's just all gather and pretend conservatives have a voice.
12M jobs
And people think Obama's constantly blaming Bush is wrong. We all gotta have a scapegoat don't we?
If people who think that is why we lost the last election are in charge of the 2016 campaign ... be prepared to lose again.
Maybe, once your Mitt Romney Derangement Syndrome MRDS© subsides a bit, you can look at the facts and see what the real cause is.
Just because YOU hate him does not mean everyone does.
You jack asses are the ones looking for scape goats. We don’t need a scape goat. Romney turned out to be a failure. End of story.
But from "Boehner and Crew" we'll hear "resist we much"!!
What we lost in this election was not a chance for better leadership, but a chance to remove a bad leader. But what we gained was an end to complicity in the actions and policies of this administration. What we gained was a chance to use this defeat to launch a movement that can actually win an election by confronting the issues.
Nails it, as usual. However, he is more optimistic than I am about the future.
You started the name calling pal.
We are now the Secular Socialist States of America.
I agree. I do not have the answers, but I do know that, barring a total economic collapse, it will continue for decades to come. Eventually the party will end, but unless something major happens before that, this country will be in so much debt that we will collapse.
It's coming and we sit here bickering about whether Romney was conservative enough instead of facing the facts. Rush said it best, these people are NOT going to vote Santa Clause out of office as long as we, the elves, continue to make free toys.
I don't care if Lincoln, Reagan, and Jefferson got all rolled into one candidate, he will not win in this "entitlement" culture.
The socialists are winning.
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