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McCain 2008 more votes than Obama 2012? WTH?
Drudge | 11/07/2012 | self

Posted on 11/07/2012 8:08:17 AM PST by GlockThe Vote

2012

OBAMA -- 59,651,236 ROMNEY -- 57,028,531

2008

OBAMA -- 69,456,897 MCCAIN -- 59,934,814

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WTF!!!!!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012analysis; 2012electionanalysis; 2012obamafraud; mccain; obama; romney
I'm speechless.
1 posted on 11/07/2012 8:08:22 AM PST by GlockThe Vote
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To: GlockThe Vote

There will be a few more million votes added up when all mail ballots and absentees are added, but overall turnout was low.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 8:11:11 AM PST by wastedpotential (No witty taglines now - in mourning for the death of the America I once knew)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I blame...
Vote Fraud
3rd party
Write-Ins
Takers overhwelm the makers
Ignorance overwhelms Common Sense
Corruption at ALL levels.
Money and Power overwhelm honor and decency.

I see no positive future for America.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 8:11:11 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: GlockThe Vote

When gas goes to 8.00 a gallon . . . I will smile.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 8:13:21 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Romney/Ryan 2012 The Future of Our Children and Their Children are at stake.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

The man only the republican establishment wanted was nominated. Conservatives supported literally everybody but him. And he lost. Could not even garner the same number of votes as the last loser they picked.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 8:14:21 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: GlockThe Vote

The idiots deserve everything they get. I am so depressed this morning. I can’t believe Romney got fewer votes than McCain.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 8:14:21 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Romney/Ryan 2012 The Future of Our Children and Their Children are at stake.)
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To: Lucky9teen

Exactly what you said.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 8:15:21 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Qwackertoo

yea they made that promise already


8 posted on 11/07/2012 8:15:51 AM PST by television is just wrong
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To: cotton1706

“Conservatives supported literally everybody but him”

Well they didn’t do a good job picking an alternative candidate and sticking with him. One week Perry, then Cain then Newt and finally Santorum. I’m surprised Michelle didn’t have her week though at least she’s back in the House.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 8:17:15 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: GlockThe Vote

Check those software voting machines.

For example, take one machine, check the final tally the machine put out. Then, and this will be the more strenuous part, go from voter to voter who voted on that particular machine. See what candidate they voted for, if they’re inclined to say.

If a machine says that only 200 voted for romney on it, and yet you have affidavits from 600 people who say they voted for romney on that particular machine, there’s a problem.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 8:18:32 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Qwackertoo

” I can’t believe Romney got fewer votes than McCain.”

And McCain didn’t even try. What a waste of money.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 8:19:31 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: cotton1706

bingo- this defeat should be laid squarely at the feet of the GOPe...a rudderless ship with a bunch of little girls at the helm....


12 posted on 11/07/2012 8:20:20 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: ari-freedom

It wouldn’t have mattered. They lined up all the governors and senators ahead of time and destroyed anybody that was a challenge to Romney. They created his base of support and maintained it at all cost.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 8:20:33 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Qwackertoo

Milk is more expensive than gas. If gas goes up to 8 a gallon, milk will hover around 9 a gallon.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 8:20:36 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: GlockThe Vote

In a June UPI poll, 10% of Republicans indicated they would not vote for a Mormon.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 8:24:44 AM PST by Joseph Harrolds (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss. --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Are those numbers final? If so, then apparently: Many Republicans who didn’t want Romney either didn’t vote for president at all, or voted third party. And many Democrats who didn’t want Obama must’ve done the same thing.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 8:27:37 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: GlockThe Vote

Oregon has a total of 3.4 million people. How come 5 million voted there.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 8:29:07 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: GlockThe Vote
After your first affirmative action vote for president,
the second time around is just not as exciting....
18 posted on 11/07/2012 8:32:26 AM PST by TheDon (In 2012, American voters chose European style big gov't.)
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To: Joseph Harrolds

In a June UPI poll, 10% of Republicans indicated they would not vote for a Mormon.

Idiotic, How about a marxist anti-christian anti-israel prez instead?


19 posted on 11/07/2012 8:35:23 AM PST by Augustinian monk (People ask me 'Why pray if God is sovereign?' Why pray if he isn't?- Michael Horton)
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To: TheDon

This whole thing is beyond aggravating. A bunch on mental patients taking this nation off the cliff.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 8:35:59 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Lucky9teen

Bring it on. The quicker we hit rock bottom the better.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 8:36:26 AM PST by erlayman
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To: GlockThe Vote

I just noticed this. This cannot be. Around here in La La Liberal land, I have never seen so many yard signs for the republican in my LIFE! A lot of people crossed over to vote mitt. So who didn’t vote mitt amongst republicans? Did they just not vote?


22 posted on 11/07/2012 8:38:49 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: lowbridge
Milk is more expensive than gas.

Not in California, I can buy milk for a dollar, to a $1.25 cheaper than gas.

23 posted on 11/07/2012 8:39:26 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: Augustinian monk
Idiotic, How about a marxist anti-christian anti-israel prez instead?

The fact that 10% (at least) of Republicans are idiots shouldn't come as a revelation...

24 posted on 11/07/2012 8:40:10 AM PST by Joseph Harrolds (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss. --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GlockThe Vote

3-4 million Republican Early Votes were discarded/destroyed. Period.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 8:44:26 AM PST by Falcon28 (Nobama 2012!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

It is very simple. Many of us were hoping that the “crawl through broken glass to vote against Obama” vote would be enough. It was not.

No matter how bad an incumbent may be, to win an election against an incumbent you have to have a strong candidate that will draw voters to the polls. Romney was never that candidate.

We needed to actually change the minds of a lot of 2008 Obama voters or bring a lot of new voters to the polls. To do that, we needed more than “Obama is terrible.” We needed “Our candidate is someone you want to vote for.”

In 1994, the Republicans won a nationwide landslide in response to Clinton’s first two years in office. The Republicans took control of the House, the Senate, a majority of the governorships and a majority of the state legislatures. Basically, if you were running as a Democrat for any office in the U.S. that year you lost. If you were running as a Republican you won.

After the 1994 tidal wave, NO ONE believed that Clinton could get re-elected dog catcher in 1996. But then the Republicans nominated Bob Dole.

I liked Bob Dole. Bob Dole was a war hero. But Bob Dole had lost the Republican presidential primaries in 1980 and in 1988 and had not improved with age. He got the nomination because he had been campaigning continuously for it since 1988 and it was “his turn.”

Any of that sound familiar? 2010 was a re-play of 1994 and 2012 was a replay of 1996, with Mitt Romney playing the role of Bob Dole and Barry Obama playing the role of Bill Clinton.

The next four years are going to be disastrous. Our only hope is for the Republicans to take the Senate in 2014. At least then we can put some break on the Obamanation. But if we could not take the Senate in 2010 or 2012, then I am not at all hopeful about 2014.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 8:45:08 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Are we nearing the end of the Obamanation?)
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people were not really voting for McLame in 08, but for his vp pick, that is the difference.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 8:47:00 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: Joseph Harrolds

Nice to know that a muslim is better than a mormon.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 8:47:25 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Qwackertoo

In most states, the numbers are shaping up to be even lower than in 2004, said Curtis Gans, director of American University’s Center for the Study of the American Electorate.
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It’s hard to believe and something does seem gravely wrong with the election results. It truly makes no sense. Report after report from voting sites mentioned never before seen crowds or used adjectives like “massive.” Yet the turnout was down? NY and NJ, sure, but elsewhere? Logic requires that if the overall vote was down and Republican vote up (by anecdotal evidence), Democrat votes had to be down. Yet Obama wins even more states that expected?


29 posted on 11/07/2012 8:47:55 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: freekitty
Oregon has a total of 3.4 million people. How come 5 million voted there.

I think not. As of the current count,

Obama has 779,964 for 53.4%
While
Romney has 641,965 for 44.0%

Where do you get 5 million votes from?
30 posted on 11/07/2012 8:50:14 AM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: ari-freedom

Bachman got a week, she won the Iowa Straw Poll.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 8:50:18 AM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I’m speechless too, how did this happen?! I have 312 random Americans on my FB profile. Only 13 of them are Obama supporters, and liberal. How’s that for an unscientific poll?
All the polls had Romney ahead, the only people I saw with any enthusiasm for Obama were media figures.
There must have been a hell of a lot of dead people voting this time around.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 8:52:36 AM PST by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Maybe all the extra votes in 2008 are the fraudulent votes.
Maybe in 2012 not as many deceased people voted.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 8:53:07 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
Nice to know that a muslim is better than a mormon.

Gene Wilder described those who refused to vote foe Romney because of his religion perfectly in his role as The Waco Kid in Blazing Saddles:

"These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons. "

34 posted on 11/07/2012 8:56:40 AM PST by Joseph Harrolds (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss. --- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Lucky9teen

I was so hopeful yesterday with HUGE turnout reports. I’m shocked and sad.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 9:28:37 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Romney/Ryan 2012 The Future of Our Children and Their Children are at stake.)
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To: Lucky9teen

I was so hopeful yesterday with HUGE turnout reports. I’m shocked and sad.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 9:28:37 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Romney/Ryan 2012 The Future of Our Children and Their Children are at stake.)
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To: Lucky9teen

Obama/Biden - No Hope for America

No one to blame but the socialists.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 9:33:23 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: GlockThe Vote

This is no longer valid, Zero has 60,039,247 according to Fox News. Still quite a near-10mil dropoff from 2008.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 9:33:38 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Putting aside the possibility of massive voter fraud, which i don’t dismiss at all, i wonder if the disparity between 08 and 12 can be attributed to Sarah Palin. The consensus here seems to have been that we lost in 08 in part, at least, because while the base loved Palin they were lukewarm about McCain — so the enthusiasm for her didn’t always translate into votes for him. But now i wonder if Palin helped McCain far more than we suspected and what we saw last night was partially the effect of not having her (or someone like her) around to stimulate the evangelical vote.

We might also be seeing that a large number of evangelicals simply aren’t interested in voting republican unless an evangelical is on the ticket.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 10:14:05 AM PST by Humbug
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To: Qwackertoo
BOTH Omaba 2012 AND Romney 2012 got less votes than John McCain 2008.

Turnout was just way down, both on the Republican side and on the Democrat side. Tens of millions of eligible people of all descriptions (conservative, liberal, Evangelical, Catholic, black, white) simply did not vote.

Unfortunately a lot of sit-it-outs are folks who should'a voted for Romney/Ryan. They didn't for various reasons. Because Romney was squishy on social issues. Because Romney was a Mormon. Because Ryan was too much an Ayn Rand enthusiast. Or not enough of one. Or any other reason why.

40 posted on 11/07/2012 12:38:15 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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