Posted on 11/07/2012 7:46:24 AM PST by jilliane
4. With overall voter turnout down, shockingly Romney got 2 million less votes than McCain! If Romney got as many votes as McCain, 59.6 million, he could have won.
The story of this election is voter turnout!
State - McCain '08 - Obama '12
NH - 317k - 355K
WI - 1,262K - 1,600K
FL - 4,046K - 4,129K
PA - 2,656K - 2,894K
Yes, some he may have picked up: IA, Ohio probably others.
This is not a complete list, but illistrates the point. No way Romney can win, if he does not take Florida.
BTW: Ohio is 2,674K vs. 2,672K, that is a .07% difference.
Long time experienced political operators, common joe voters, all claiming that that the turnout was the biggest they had ever seen and yet the numbers were down.
WERE THEY ALL JUST IMAGINING THAT?
Something just does not smell right!!!
Not quite, there are still millions of uncounted votes (mail ballots) in CA, WA and OR, also provisionals in other states.
At the end, it will be Obama 62.5 mil, Romney 59.5 mil or close to that. Still, this is under McCain’s 60 million votes, or W’s 62 mil in 2004.
Demographically (starting with W’s numbers), there were 66-67 million GOP votes available for Romney. He did not get the base to the polls, and he should be judged as the weakest GOP candidate in recent memory (weaker than McCain, who actually performed admirably in hopeless conditions).
Will head doctors be covered under obamacare?
Don’t blame me, I voted for Romney. But that doesn’t change the fact that he was a poor candidate, like McLame.
When I talk to Democrats, the majority are just like us, but they identify with Democrats because the republican’s have been painted as anti anti anti anti and not for anything.
Democrats offer free stuff, till this country hits the wall, we are on a course to watch this continue.
Romney did what he needed to do. The GOP party is organized by a bunch of old country club farts planning elections over martinis. Been the problem with the GOP for years. They fight the Republican base and are inept at running campaigns.
See if the GOP House gets a spine....NOT.
All GOP convictions go out the door the day after the election. They will move left or sit on their hands in effort to hang onto their seats and declining power base.
Maybe. I saw it as follows:
Socialist RINO versus Communist Democrat = Continued expansion of the Federal Welfare Entitlement Plantation.
IOW, whoever won, we would still be working for “The Man” in the “Big (White) House” at 1600 Plantation Avenue.
And Virginia by 100K.
So much for Scott Rasmussen's "data" that showed a 5.8% party ID advantage for the GOP.
This cycle, pundits were full of more sh*t than a Christmas goose.
>> Long time experienced political operators, common joe voters, all claiming that that the turnout was the biggest they had ever seen and yet the numbers were down. WERE THEY ALL JUST IMAGINING THAT?
Yes, there were imagining that. People see what they want to see, especially the political operators, who are paid to spin and pretend. The Dems saw the great signs in 2004, the GOP was spinning in 2012.
Perhaps Kerry-Romney can run a join loser ticket in 2016? But who is on the top of the ticket, and who is on the bottom?
Sorry to say this, but Republicans who did not show up to vote have to shoulder some of the blame of Obama getting re-elected.
Sitting around like bullheaded fools with a “I’ll show them” attitude and not voting for Romney. As a result, due to less turnout, their non vote was a default vote for obama. Sorry, but it really does come down to the math. Which is why they do the counts.
Just as with them not showing up for McCain, the only point they proved is they were too foolish to have even the slightest bit of foresight and see how bad obama hurts this nation.
Sorry, but I love my country too much. Romney was the only option to protect my nation from obama in the general election.
Also, all the tea party guys we got into the House in 2010. They have not been the conservatives they claimed to be (mainly by sticking Tea Party on a sign and having folks follow them like blind sheep). But they are still better than the alternative. So not voting for someone who may not be a tea party person, when the other option is obama, shows an inability to see the big picture.
People can flame me all they want, but last night proves me right. At some point people need to use some common sense.
GOP dropped the ball. Need to invest in ground game. Early voting has radically changed elections in America.
We are running TV blast the masses campaigns and we need to laser focus on our hip pocket voters.
Those margins were all doable. RNC dropped the ball.
“Yeah. That is why Obama carried the Bible Belt so handily.”
I would beg to differ - he barely won NC, lost VA,(home of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell) and Ohio, which has a huge evangelical population in southern part of the state. I am an evangelical, and I had argued with many here in Ohio that a mormon would be better than the alternative, but many said there was “no difference.” I had hoped when Billy Graham gave his blessing that we would all turnout, but I don’t think we did.
I don’t get Florida at all. Not at all.
The margin of victory in VA is a shock too.
I wonder how many disillusioned Republicans voted Libertarian, Constitution or something else.
My wife and I were both unhappy (to put it mildly) with Romney. We finally voted for Romney after listening to Obama and his minions. I suspect others didn’t and just stayed home. The political fabric is irreparably torn and the progressives hold both parties. In the short term, there is no hope.
Hate of Obama prompted us to vote for Romney.
GOP-e and you guys would have trashed her to the point of distraction if she'd run this year.
Now that your approach to running against Democrats is totally discredited, she has an open highway ahead of her.
Here is my theory.
After watching the Obamanation on the boob tube for a couple of years, watching giant spending measures, trillions added to the debt, passage of Obamacare, the downgrade of the USA, class warfare, the administration telling one lie after another with a straight face and no one calling them out, nothing but praise for the magic negro...
Many conservatives started tuning out. They started turning off their television sets and started taking their kids to the zoo, playing fetch with the dog, watching old movies, reading classic works of literature, camping, ANYTHING but watching the vomit-inducing scenes played out nightly before them on all things politic.
Those became much better alternatives than having to sadly sit and watch their country fade away or loudly curse at the talking heads.
They never tuned back in. Even when the presidential election rolled around, they paid no notice. Election day came and once civic-minded conservatives just shrugged and whistled a happy little tune as they went to work and thought about their upcoming fishing trip at the lake.
My goodness. Stop worshiping her!
SHE DID NOT RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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