Posted on 11/06/2012 9:39:50 PM PST by Mr. K
"Reince" Prebus- RESIGN NOW
You people are CLUELESS
During the primaries it was obvious that 7 out of 10 GOP voters WANTED SOMEONE MORE CONSERVATIVE than Romney, you forced him on us
YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR THIS LOSS and the continuation of this Obamanation on The Republic
Did Ronald Reagan "reach across the aisle" or did he win with strong conservativ eagenda?
WE LOST TO A COMMUNIST BOOB
When we are offered Democrap or Democrap Lite WE ALL LOSE
Ooooooooh I would like to give someone there a good ass beating
Damn straight!!!! TODD AKIN FOR PRESIDENT!!!!2016!!!!
If it had been Newt Ginrich or Rick Santorum the same crap would have happened. The bottom line is Obama won because he was black
They gave conservatives a crap sandwich, and then the imbecile brigade on FR pissed on anyone who criticized Mittens because he was allegedly the better alternative. Well, on policy he would have been a f@@king disaster, and he wasn’t electable, although we must always support “moderates” because twe are told they are electable.
If your premise is correct, then Romney's vote totals and share of the popular vote would have been considerably less than McCain's. That wasn't the case.
The truth is, this election pretty much became irrelevant once you had Romney and Ryan running around criticizing ObamaCare's massive Medicare cuts. Just think about that one for a second, folks -- especially in the context of the massive entitlement spending we saw in the Bush administration.
Let's use the next few days or weeks, to drill down to the ACTUAL results, sorted, cross-tabbed, broken down by gender, age, employment status (or even Union / govt. worker vs. private sector), religion, and so on.
THEN we can figure out, did Romney not get enough votes, or was he swamped by the 47% + whatever hangers-on + fraud?
One must diagnose the issue correctly to maximize the chance to solve it.
And continue to pray for God's guidance and mercy...
g_w
Romney performed poorly in the last two debates, meaning he should have mopped the floor with the pathetic likes of Obama, but didn't.
A truly conservative candidate WOULD HAVE WON.
Personally, I don’t think Gingrich or Santorum would have done better and no one else was running.
Folks, it was not the candidate that cost us the election.
No, it was our fellow Americans who chose to be takers and suckle from the government teat that cost us this election. Half of our nation wants the government to take from the providers to support them.
On the other hand, Romney won Missouri, while Akins the good conservative lost. And he won Indiana, while Mourdock the good conservative lost.
And you won’t have to worry about Romney anymore. He’s finished. Should have been in 2008.
The democrats have learned something the republicans have not. Half the voting-age population doesn’t vote, because they don’t care. So they have spent years becoming the party of the big city. Now, they simply pick some stupid small issue, like contraceptives, and use it to scare people. They then run around and register all those people, who could otherwise care less about anything, and hand them ballots, and those people vote democrat.
It doesn’t matter how fired up your base is, when the other side has numbers on their side, not people who would answer poll questions, but people who will, when asked, take 2 minutes to fill out an absentee ballot.
We could do the same, but it’s like trick-or-treating in a rural area vs an apartment complex. The guy in the apartment is getting all the candy, and you are getting a good workout.
BTW, I don’t disagree that we failed to give people enough reasons to turn out. But we also failed to find those small ideas that would allow us to register new voters.
Also, the only reason I think this works for democrats is that the media allows it. Media could have easily pointed out the absurdity of the contraceptive argument, instead of treating it like a real issue. Media could have also not lied about Obama to cover for him in the debates.
Rick or Newt would probably have won. Voters weren’t fooled with the fantasy that Mitt was more conservative than he was as governor of Massachusetts. But hey, the lies deluded some here.
Look what the GOP Establishment got us ? Another 4 year term with BHO. How would have things turned out if Ron Paul, Santorum or Herman Cain got the nomination instead of Romney ? The next thing that should be done is to get rid of the GOP Establishment and get people who run on principles based on freedom, rolling back socialism instead of capitulating to it. We need another person who is the same caliber as the late great Ronald Reagan.
Getting rid of the GOP Establishment, we need to start on the ground level and get people who will go against it and work from the ground level to the top. We need to purge the establishment folks out.
Yep and makes one suspicious if BHO was the true source for getting Herman Cain out of the primary out of fear that Cain would take voters from his base.
Nope... You can’t beat liberalism with liberalism-lite.
They pulled out every stop possible to get this win, but there are two things they aren't considering.
1) It is quite likely they *lost* the popular vote. Let the Dem states who want the "popular vote compact" take heed!
2) Obama now owns the economy. He ran it the last four years.
Kyrie eleison!
They pulled out every stop possible to get this win, but there are two things they aren't considering.
1) It is quite likely they *lost* the popular vote. Let the Dem states who want the "popular vote compact" take heed!
2) Obama now owns the economy. He ran it the last four years.
Kyrie eleison!
Correct. The country has simply slipped past the tipping point. It isn't the same nation of mostly independent minded, rugged individualists it once was. We are now a European welfare state. It may not be possible for a solid conservative platform to win any more on a national level. Romney actually became a pretty good candidate and his version of squishy, milquetoast conservatism may even be too much for what passes as the American public these days.
The GOP is finished! Its as Dead as the Whigs of old! We need to put it out of its misery and start a new party!
I really don't thin that was the case; it seems to me that the reason the GOP lost was they ran some one who was very similar to their opponent (disregarding rhetoric); in short, they were pushing someone who stood for "mostly the same."
If it had been Ron Paul (very different finance stance), or Gingrich (very different judiciary stance) they could have easily won -- instead they pursued 'electability', and as my elders said "when you try to please everyone, you [end up] pleas[ing] no-one."
Or, as CS Lewis put it: “When first things are put first, second things are not suppressed but increased.”
You have half the country on some sort of federal assistance and they have family members..Add to this that a large number of the employed work for the government in some capacity.The Obama campaign was able to convince those people that Republicans would stop their checks and their free food...Or cut back on their government jobs and pensions
They voted their pockets...They felt endangered by what the left likes to call “austerity”.
The inmates are now running the asylum..
The receiver's now control the host. The tipping point has been reached and there is no stopping it until the host is can no longer support them.
Then they will burn everything to the ground and there is nothing we can do to stop it.
Exactly. After he did well in the first debate, he decided not to upset the applecart and try to cruise through the next two debates. And to think they shoved this guy down our throats because they said he could win.
“The GOP needs to be an unapologetically conservative party. Our goal should not be to fool moderates into thinking we’re moderate, but to convert moderates and liberals into conservatives.”
I think I’ve heard this before. Oh, yeah. Right after McLame lost. The GOP is a dead, stinking and rotten corpse.
I just went John Galt.
Bull poop, this was far more about the people doing the voting than the Republican candidate.
Romeny ran a good campaign.
He spoke well.
He made great points and offered sound solutions.
He worked his butt off.
There is no perfect candidate, but I think Romney left everything he had out there in the campaign.
The people let the country down, not Romney.
If the republicans really believe that the economy will not get better and will go over a cliff, I think it is time to let the think collapse. The republicans should approve everything the Dems want, and step back and watch.
After all, that’s pretty much what is happening now, anyway.
Let them own it.
like the American Jews who sat idly by while Hitler killed millions of Jews, I blame Freepers and other so called patriots who plotted to destroy Mitt for months now...
Congratulations ...you wanted bammey...now you OWN him....
If it had been Newt his past would have come up a distraction the whole election process. As for Ron Paul first of all his age would have been an issue and Obama would have really been able to play the Bin Ladin card against someone who said it was a mistake to take Osama out
If the over 60% of the country who are supposedly conservative allowed a communist idiot (Obama) to march back into office, then many of those 60% have sh!t for brains don’t they?
I thought the nomination of Romney in the primaries was proof of that (and all the pre-primary anointing the GOP-E did totally screwed over other candidates-- that's saying nothing of that "bus didn't let delegates out" story).
It is time for a new GOP, if that is not possible, a new party.
The GOP is lost.
We cannot build anything, by sending American manufacturing abroad.
Build it in America. Buy it in America.
Yeah, conservatives need to look at the mirror. Romney being the nominee was not because of his campaign’s success. It’s conservatives’ failure to come up with one candidate. The RINOs is part of the party, and will always be. But they are only about 30-35% of the members. So, that Romney won, it says something about conservatives’ inability to organize themselves to convince the 65% of members, not about the RINOs.
ROTFL, yes, some of us thought so.
Hahaha! You truly think that one of your nuts would have done better? Come on.
Four years ago in the primaries, the cry here was “no Rudy McRomney”.
Well, the GOP-E didn’t listen to us twice, and we got eight years of Obama because of it. I shudder to think about 2016. Rudy is still left.
I don’t believe the Republican Party has the desire to change. Which is why its base needs to form a real third party and leave the Republicans to scrap with the Democrats for moderate voters.
It’ll take time to build but given the calculus the current party leadership seems to want, the Republicans won’t win national elections anyway.
Romney won 49% of the popular vote, and was 1% from winning the presidency. He got 95% of the Republican vote.
Now, you tell me, which Tea Party candidates won swing-state Senate races?
“When we are offered Democrap or Democrap Lite WE ALL LOSE”
And when we offered Akin, Mourdock, George Allen, Josh Mandel and Smith in PA ... they lose TOO.
So where are these magical uber-conservative candidates who will sweep 60% of the voters off their feet and win the races we need won?
THE PROBLEM IS BIGGER AND MORE OMINOUS THAN YOU THINK.
Are you really trying to draw a moral equivalence between opposition to a liberal Republican and enabling the Holocaust?
That's sick. And I mean S-I-C-K.
That's complete crap. You are just making up stats now. The more recent gallup poll has it roughly 40% self identified conservative, 40% moderate and 20%. The truth of the matter is a lot of those "moderates" are really liberal.
Conservatism is the right path forward. Problem is, as government dependency grows there is less and less of an appetite for it - even amongst people that would have otherwise been with us. Once Obamacare if fully in place, it will be even harder to win over the public with positions that call for slashing government programs and spending. This is exactly what has happened in Europe. So no, moderates don't automatically lose elections. And as this country drifts further left, the kind of conservatives we on Free Republic prefer may not be able to get elected on state or national levels for much longer.
No, this is what you get when the people are brain washed. Oh and give them freebies, lie, lie, lie, commit voter fraud, don’t allow voter identification, lie some more, intimidate people so they are afraid to put up yard signs for the more conservative candidate due to the vandalism that has been done to those who did, take Glenn Beck off the air, produce a forged birth certificate, yet have the majority of media look the other way; Also this is what a country gets when it covers up for murder and blames the killings on a video so as to advance the muslim agenda. This is what a country gets when people such as Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Eric Holder, Feenstein (the list goes on and on) hold powerful offices. This is what one gets when the “one nation under God” inhabitants allow its babies to be murdered, allow pornographic material to be shown on TV, even at early hours to pollute the innocent children, and shun God, shun prayer, and shun giving with a cheerful heart to God and His causes.
Because He said, “If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
Sorry to all you patriots who have faithfully fought this battle. Our enemy roams around as a prowling lion seeking who he may devour. Don’t give up! Resist the enemy and he will flee from you. If you are in Christ, greater is He that is in you, then he that is in the world.
I hope Saint Rick doesn’t get another chance because it is his “turn”. He is another loser.
Listen dumb ass, no Republican candidate was moral or decent or seasoned enough. At least Romney knew how to keep his pecker in his pants.
Look no adulterer will ever be good enough. We needed someone exactly like Romney. The voters were stupid and lazy and immoral and the Democrats ran for the second time someone who does not qualify.
Who did you want?
The person we should really be blaming is that bastard Chris Christie
Hah hah hah!
That was funny...
Ed
No need to drill down. The proximate causes of the loss are demographics, takers, corrupt MSm and certain womens irrational concern with their vaginas.
I think Newt could articulate a good defense of his past; people do make mistakes and, hopefully, learn from them... Romney showed nothing in the way of reforming to [in writing we call it developing character] the conservative side, it was facade and I think people knew it.
As for Ron Paul, yes he's getting up there in years... but he may have been "righter than wronger" on the Osama Bin Ladin issue: the "speedy 'cleanup'" [sea burial] was mighty suspicious, and it would have been more old-style justice [and considering the part of the world, may have been more respected] to lay the body out for public viewing. (IIRC Paul advocated using letters of marque and reprisal rather than the war on terror, and I think that may have been a better idea.) But bringing up the issue would go badly for Obama: he didn't issue the 'go' order.
In your mind no Republican could have defeated, the second Jimmy Carter?
How loyal are you to this failed Massachusetts Governor that has won a single election in 20 years of running (with less than 50%), and was forced out of that office with 34% approval?
” How would have things turned out if Ron Paul, Santorum or Herman Cain got the nomination instead of Romney ? “
They all would have lost by even more. 6 point losses instead of squeakers.
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