Posted on 11/06/2012 8:42:40 AM PST by Seizethecarp
To find out more about Obama’s time in Indonesia, TheBlaze tracked down Father Bart Janssen. He’s the elderly founder of Santo Fransiskus Assisis who we found in a monastery in Den Bosch, The Netherlands. We asked him, through a Dutch translator, what he remembers of the young Barack Obama.
Janssen doesn’t remember who registered Obama, but he recalls that Obama’s mother didn’t speak Indonesian at the time, so he thinks that both the stepfather and the mother would have been there together to register their son. He also doesn’t think the details in Obama’s registration document should be considered official declarations of his faith or citizenship because it wasn’t a government form and people played loose with such facts at the time. For example, it was typical to register as Indonesian and Islamic just because you were living there, so the religion indicated may just be what his father put down because it was the normal thing to do.
An exit after one term from the White House could act as a catalyst for more information more quickly. An Obama win, on the other hand, would likely keep any information – at least from the president himself — sealed for at least four more years.
Voters on Tuesday, then, may be deciding more than just who the next president is – they could help decide how much more we know about the one we have now.
(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...
Yet, Barry remains "POTUS" and "CinC."
Where's the evidence to back up your claim of such "fact?"
Release it. Otherwise, what do you get out of repeating the same claim over and over for which you have no evidence? Seriously, what's the point?
Feel free to ignore me. I’ll reciprocate. Seriously, you’re embarassing yourself.
Wheres the proof Sven?
Where?
You’ve bought into theories published by sources interested in muddying the water and not enlightening the situation.
For example, the current administration proudly trumpets its policy guidance against the issuance of a Certificate of Loss of Nationality to minors. The fact is this policy is contrary to the policy of SoS Dean Rusk.
In the late 60’s, SoS Rusk issued Certificates of Loss of Nationality to minors. Some sued in U.S. Federal Court to recapture their U.S. Citizenship and most did not fight it. Of those that did not fight it, they were notified of their right to recapture their U.S. Citizenship until 6 months after their 18th birthday.
Obama had the opportunity to recover his U.S. Citizenship, but he chose not to. With the opportunity to recapture his U.S. Citizenship and natural born citizenship status past him, Obama chose to participate in the naturalization process when he was in his early 20’s. He naturalized as a U.S. Citizen in 1983.
All of these facts can be verified by examining his naturalization file at USCIS. Obama can fill out a one-page form and pay a small fee to make this file public, but chooses not to. Your anger is misdirected at me. Obama is lying to you. I’m telling you the truth.
why do you guess he chose NOT to recapture his citizenship ?
bttt
If Lolo adopted him then his legal name is actually Barack Hussein Obama Soetero, unless it has been legally changed since then.
Hmm, so he never gave up Indo citizenship? Which actually was not valid since BHO is not his actual name?
Sven....did you ever find when and how he changed his name
I wondered, too. He had different plans then?
PoAre you basing your information on post #18, or do you have other documents that you can scan in (in ONE layer ;) ) and POST here?
Please post em if you’ve got em :)
......” Obama had the opportunity to recover his U.S. Citizenship, but he chose not to. With the opportunity to recapture his U.S. Citizenship and natural born citizenship status past him, Obama chose to participate in the naturalization process when he was in his early 20’s. He naturalized as a U.S. Citizen in 1983.
All of these facts can be verified by examining his naturalization file at USCIS. Obama can fill out a one-page form and pay a small fee to make this file public, but chooses not to. Your anger is misdirected at me. Obama is lying to you. I’m telling you the truth.”
If i amwere not mistaken, This file cannot be obtained unless
A) the named person gives permission
or
B) there is a subpeona issued for it
Since a) is highly unlikely, then b) remains a possibility.
Unless somebody that works in the Records department at USCIS...
Peeked.
Post em if you’ve got em :)
Show the whole world you are correct.
It is a felony to solicit or conspire to illegally obtain documentation protected and secured in a U.S. Federal Government facility. Consequently, I’ll ignore your request and remind everyone Obama will be determined ineligible for the Office of POTUS once his Certificate of Naturalization is legally obtained.
There is no circumstance where a naturalized U.S. Citizen is eligible for the Office of POTUS or VP.
OK so if its a FELONY I take it you have NOTHING, and have NOT been in a position to see
Either one or both:
A) o’s certificate of loss of nationality
B) Certificate of naturalization
All that was needed at the beginning of your posts was to say “This is my THEORY”
Theory that catholic social services of Connecticut was involved so 0 had a ss# from there
Theory that the NUMIDENT file said he was an alien
Theory that dean rusk issued a Cert of Loss of Naturalization for 0
Etc.
Then I would have had NO problem.
seizethecarp, vanilla swirl, 4Zoltan, Fred Nerks, rxsid, Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America, advertising guy, little jeremiah
Pinging y’all to this post by Sven:
” It is a felony to solicit or conspire to illegally obtain documentation protected and secured in a U.S. Federal Government facility. Consequently, I’ll ignore your request and remind everyone Obama will be determined ineligible for the Office of POTUS once his Certificate of Naturalization is legally obtained.
There is no circumstance where a naturalized U.S. Citizen is eligible for the Office of POTUS or VP. “
Is this suggesting that CSS of Conn. was involved deliberately or unknowingly in using a SS number of a dead person? Or is the story of the other person without validity?
mark
In addition, in posts #17 and #25 you claim that it was a FACT that 0 has a CLN and Cert of Naturalization.
Then in post #34 you say its a felony to illegally obtain records, and “once they are legally obtained”.
Again my questions:
Have you SEEN these documents?
Has somebody ELSE obtained them LEGALLY and then you saw them?
We would love to believe your theory but until there is verifiable proof it is nothing but a wet dream.
We live in such an Alice in Wonderland world.....
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