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How would C.S. Lewis vote in this election?
11/5/2012 | newheart

Posted on 11/05/2012 1:53:07 PM PST by newheart

Somehow, I almost always find my way back to C.S. Lewis when trying to understand the big issues—and some of the small ones as well. A friend of mine once said she thought Lewis could be added to the canon of scripture in another thousand years. Her view of scripture wasn't all that high, but if there were any modern writer I would include, he is the one, though I have no doubt he would be appalled.

Here are a couple of quotes of his that I think summarize what is at stake in this election. (From God in the Dock)

"In every age the men who want us under their thumb, if they have any sense, will put forward the particular pretension which the hopes and fears of that age render most potent. They `cash in'. It has been magic, it has been Christianity. Now it will certainly be science."

and

"Let us not be deceived by phrases about `Man taking charge of his own destiny'. All that can really happen is that some men will take charge of the destiny of the others."

The entire mindset of the Left can be described a belief in their superior ability to conduct the lives of others. It is pseudo-scientific (i.e. global warming?), highly moralistic and completely legalistic. It believes it is correct and that anyone who disagrees is both wrong and unenlightened. Therefore their mission in life is to enlighten others—by any means necessary. Certainly there are busybodies on the Right who fall into that trap as well, but the Left does it in the name of diversity, tolerance and "freedom." The reality is that they cannot allow freedom for others; they fight against diversity of thought; and their sense of tolerance is based in a paternalistic belief that their principles are so superior that they will only have to put up with the unenlightened masses until they see the light. Sadly what usually occurs with their agenda is that the masses never really get it and wind up dead. By the millions.

That is the inevitable result of the utopian dream of people like Barack Obama though there is no way in their smug, self-righteousness that they could see that. It is a blindness induced by allowing political ideology to become their religion of preference.

The biggest criticism that the Left seems to be able to make against Mitt Romney is that he is rich. And as they always seek to remind us, unless your name is Kennedy, Kerry, Soros, Beyonce, or Obama, you cannot get rich without stealing from the poor—ironically referred to in the language of this election cycle as "the middle class." So let's assume that is true. Let's stipulate that he is a rich, heartless individual with no core values, who is only concerned with getting richer and making his cronies wealthy, all on the backs of the other "99%." Lewis seems to suggest that if the choice is between the utopian idealist and the robber baron, go with the robber baron.

"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

Now I am not accusing Mitt Romney of being a robber baron. Frankly I think the evidence argues persuasively against that. My only real concern about him is that he has a little bit of that nanny-statist streak in him. And for that reason I still believe that the most important goal of this election is to elect a conservative Congress that will keep whoever wins the White House in check. But I know without a doubt, while Romney may have a little nanny in him, Obama is completely open about it, even proud. He can—and will, if given another term—oppress the people of this nation with a clear conscience. And that is why I will vote for Romney, pray that he wins, and pray that his feet are held to the fire.


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1 posted on 11/05/2012 1:53:10 PM PST by newheart
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To: newheart
We must show our Christian colors if we are to be true to Christ. We can't remain silent or concede everything away.

-CS Lewis
2 posted on 11/05/2012 2:01:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: newheart

THe choice is between a guaranteed four years ( or Lord knows how many more )years of a self proclaimed communist and his cronies who have already done much to destroy the last great hope of this earth or if one must holding your nose and voting for Romney and as many conservatives as you can. Then it is up to US to hold their feet to the fire.

The truth is that Lewis did not live in a federated republic. We do. He tended not to speak about politics and I think that is just as well. We are not voting for pastor in chief but commander in chief. I will take Romney any day of the week ( particularly with lots of conservatives in congress and an active electorate) over the yob in the WH now


3 posted on 11/05/2012 2:03:29 PM PST by Nifster
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To: newheart

He probably wouldn’t, he was an Irish citizen.


4 posted on 11/05/2012 2:05:33 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

I’m guessing he’s voting democrat this year. He’s dead now, right?


5 posted on 11/05/2012 2:10:55 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: newheart
For the purposes of this discussion, any reference to Shift shall be deemed racist...
6 posted on 11/05/2012 2:13:47 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: 21twelve

LOL! Great answer.


7 posted on 11/05/2012 2:21:55 PM PST by MNDude (OWS Movement RIP)
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To: Nifster
He tended not to speak about politics and I think that is just as well.

True, but when he did speak of politics he was extraordinarily clear. His essay, "Is Progress Possible? Willing Slaves of the Welfare State" (God in the Dock) from which the second quote above is taken, could be written today about the social planers in Obama's regime.

8 posted on 11/05/2012 2:25:04 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: svcw

British.


9 posted on 11/05/2012 2:25:27 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: cripplecreek

Like this alot. Good reminder that we can show our colors at the voting booth.


10 posted on 11/05/2012 2:25:27 PM PST by texaschick
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To: Joe 6-pack
For the purposes of this discussion, any reference to Shift shall be deemed racist...

LOL.

11 posted on 11/05/2012 2:25:55 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: cripplecreek
We must show our Christian colors if we are to be true to Christ. We can't remain silent or concede everything away.

Exactly what @CSLewisDaily tweeted a couple days ago.

12 posted on 11/05/2012 2:27:43 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Screwtape is probably racist too!


13 posted on 11/05/2012 2:28:22 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: 21twelve
I’m guessing he’s voting democrat this year. He’s dead now, right?

Good one. On the other hand he may not really be dead I get a couple tweets a day from him @CSLewisDaily.

14 posted on 11/05/2012 2:28:56 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: newheart

That’s where I got it.


15 posted on 11/05/2012 2:35:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: svcw
he was an Irish citizen.

no way! he was British...

16 posted on 11/05/2012 2:43:10 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: newheart

good thread!


17 posted on 11/05/2012 3:14:11 PM PST by Nevadan
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To: newheart

I think C.S. Lewis was not a US citizen. That means he would not vote in this election due to not being either a citizen OR a lying, cheating Democrat.


18 posted on 11/05/2012 3:40:27 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: latina4dubya

He was actually born in Belfast.


19 posted on 11/05/2012 3:52:39 PM PST by madmominct
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To: newheart

I just read again what you wrote. It was even better the second time around.


20 posted on 11/05/2012 5:50:06 PM PST by Nevadan
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To: newheart
"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

I have that quote prominently displayed above my desk at work for all to see.

21 posted on 11/05/2012 6:08:27 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Nevadan

Thanks.


22 posted on 11/05/2012 7:16:50 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

“I have that quote prominently displayed above my desk at work for all to see”

Outstanding!


23 posted on 11/05/2012 7:18:46 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: latina4dubya; sinsofsolarempirefan

Born on November 29, 1898 in Belfast Ireland,


24 posted on 11/05/2012 7:48:56 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: newheart

Agreed. and certainly the Screwtape Letters and even That Hideous Strength has enough about the nature of a man centered government to let everyone know the dangers of a government big enough to take everything you have.

I read Lewis often and have for years and years. His works are some of my favorite reads.


25 posted on 11/05/2012 10:13:03 PM PST by Nifster
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To: svcw

He certainly considered himself an Irishman and proud of it, but he was also an Ulster Unionist and proud to consider himself a British subject. He was not a citizen of the Republic of Ireland, thus he was an Irishman but not an ‘Irish Citizen’...


26 posted on 11/06/2012 12:43:54 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Got it


27 posted on 11/06/2012 1:32:50 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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