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EPA Finalizes Yet Another Expensive Mandate
ATR ^ | 2012-10-15 | Christopher Prandoni

Posted on 10/15/2012 12:56:00 PM PDT by 92nina

Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) codified their war on American drivers by finalizing new car mileage mandates, otherwise known as CAFÉ standards. Increasing the cost of new cars by thousands of dollars, new CAFÉ rules will require cars built in 2025 to get at least 54.5 miles per gallon. With current 2011 cars averaging 28.6 miles per gallon, the EPA is going to require automotive manufacturers to nearly double fuel economy standards in a little more than a decade.

While the Obama administration has made the 2009 Auto-Bailout one of the center-pieces of their re-election campaign, the reality is that these new rules will affect and cost consumers more money. Emily Wismer, Policy Analyst for Independent Women’s Forum writes:

While it sounds fantastic to drive twice as far on each tank of gas, this extra efficiency comes at a large, up-front cost to consumers: New cars are expected to cost about $2000 more because of this mandate. As a result, many potential new car buyers will be priced out of the market. The effects of higher new car costs will ripple into the used car market, as fewer families will be able to trade in old vehicles for a new car. That means less supply and more demand for used cars, and higher prices for used cars as well.

Ms. Wismer’s $2,000 figure might actually understate the actually cost of complying with the EPA’s newest mandate. Bill Underriner, chairman of the National Automobile Dealers Association, estimates that the new regulations could increase the cost of new cars by $3,000 which would “shut almost 7 million people out of the new car market entirely and prevent many millions more from being able to afford new vehicles that meet their needs."

The Obama Administration hails new CAFÉ rules as a necessity to save consumers money at the pump. If higher mileage standards are inherently such a good deal, one has to wonder why the government must ratchet up CAFÉ rules. Consumers are more than capable of deciding what car they would like to drive and what they fill their car up with. Next time you hear about a government mandate coming to save you money, make sure to hold on to your wallet.

Read more: http://atr.org/epa-finalizes-yet-another-expensive-mandate-a7249#ixzz29OoJiskx


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Reference; Travel
KEYWORDS: cafestandards; carmileage; epa; epaoutofcontrol; gasmileage; govtabuse; kenyanbornmuzzie; obama; opec; tyranny
New CAFÉ standards will increase the cost of buying a new car by $3,000
1 posted on 10/15/2012 12:56:10 PM PDT by 92nina
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To: 92nina
The feral government should only be allowed to purchase the highest MPG vehicles available.

Ubama should be chauffeured around in a bullet-proof Civic.

2 posted on 10/15/2012 12:59:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: 92nina

And they wonder why the auto industry is bankrupt.

Pray for America


3 posted on 10/15/2012 1:02:19 PM PDT by bray (Islam- A billion medieval savages can't be wrong!)
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To: 92nina
New CAFÉ standards will increase the cost of buying a new car by $3,000

I wonder if these standards are even feasible or physically possible without forcing the great majority of future cars to be like motorized roller skates, like the "Smart Car".

4 posted on 10/15/2012 1:07:13 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I don't think its possible. Lighten that load and you'll be all over the place....perfect for our northern winters....yeh right.

Government is stuck on stupid.

5 posted on 10/15/2012 1:16:17 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“I wonder if these standards are even feasible or physically possible without forcing the great majority of future cars to be like motorized roller skates, like the “Smart Car””

I recall something Chief Engineer Scotty told Captain Kirk:
“Cap’n, ah cannot change the laws of physics!”

Apparently the EPA believes such changes can be made at its diktat.

One of the first things President Romney should do when he reaches office is to request Congressional legislation striking down these new EPA regulations, with the promise that he’ll sign same as soon at it reaches his desk.


6 posted on 10/15/2012 1:18:54 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: 92nina
"The Obama Administration hails new CAFÉ rules as a necessity to save consumers money at the pump."

I'm going to go broke with the goobermint trying to help me save money. If they'd just let the markets work without screwing with it all the time.

7 posted on 10/15/2012 1:19:25 PM PDT by BipolarBob (G Orwell was an optimist it seems.)
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To: 92nina
New CAFÉ standards will increase the cost of buying a new car by $3,000

It will be more than that. My motorcycle doesn't get 50 mpg.

8 posted on 10/15/2012 1:27:00 PM PDT by zeugma (Rid the world of those savages. - Dorothy Woods, widow of a Navy Seal, AMEN!)
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To: Road Glide

I recall something Chief Engineer Scotty told Captain Kirk:
“Cap’n, ah cannot change the laws of physics!”

Reminds me of a study I read re CAFE standards many years ago.

Higher CAFE standards = lighter cars = more deaths

Pure physics.


9 posted on 10/15/2012 1:29:39 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The only way they are feasible is by downsizing. I have a 67 Camaro (which is admittedly a gas hog) so I have been trying every trick to get mileage up. The Camaros drag coefficient is actually pretty good, and modern cars have close to maxed out on mileage gains there. Changing the transmission helps a lot, but Chevy already has a 6 speed automatic so they’ve gotten the gains there. Electronic fuel injection and computer metering have already been standard.

So, you are really left with downsizing in weight and cross section. I don’t think people will be happy, they will all keep their old cars.


10 posted on 10/15/2012 1:40:00 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: bray
And they wonder why the auto industry is bankrupt.

Are you kidding? This will be the next big thing in the auto industry. It's a virtual blank check, written our of all of our checking acounts.

I'd surprised Obama & Co. didn't trot this out any sooner. "It's not a tax. It's not a bailout. It's - it's ...(wait for it, wait...wait for it...here it comes...) it's for the children.

11 posted on 10/15/2012 2:16:21 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (A half-truth masquerading as the whole truth becomes a complete untruth. (J.I. Packer)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The long bed version is only 5 feet long bumper to bumper.


12 posted on 10/15/2012 2:45:11 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

CAFE has work arounds like giving away electric cars with diesel engine cars. Or classifying golf carts as electric cars to meet the quota.
Only little bitty and dangerous cars meet this standard, and I’m including the current hybrids in that category.
This may just be an effort to end car production, forcing everyone to walk, use public transit, ride bikes or own a small electric car with limited range.


13 posted on 10/15/2012 2:48:51 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: 92nina

Just where is the Republican party members of Congress on this EPA writing law issue?? Nowhere to be found.


14 posted on 10/15/2012 2:50:26 PM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: 92nina

And decrease safety.....


15 posted on 10/15/2012 2:53:46 PM PDT by rxtn41
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To: zeugma

My motorcycle gets about 48mpg, but the heater, air conditioner and windshield wipers don’t work.

And the cost of tires negates any fuel savings.


16 posted on 10/15/2012 3:08:53 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: 92nina
Let's take a step back.

What's the alternative to the new CAFE standards?

How about buying a quality car, probably foreign made, and then keeping it running for decades instead of buying a new one as soon as you pay off this one?

I can easily foresee a future where the most important inheritance will be a well maintained antique car because it will be worth more than the grandparent's house. The CAFE standards WILL depress the auto market and they WILL increase unemployment numbers (but not for the EPA bureaucrats).

17 posted on 10/15/2012 3:10:02 PM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: CodeToad

EPA rulings, recess appointments ,amnesty, permits for oil drilling, you name it.

Reopublicans are quiet.


18 posted on 10/15/2012 3:11:51 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: DaxtonBrown

As a fellow 67 owner, I’m surprised you’d drive it enough miles to even worry about the fuel economy.


19 posted on 10/15/2012 4:14:49 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Venturer
And the cost of tires negates any fuel savings.

No doubt. Still more fun than a cage.

20 posted on 10/15/2012 4:44:07 PM PDT by zeugma (Rid the world of those savages. - Dorothy Woods, widow of a Navy Seal, AMEN!)
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To: Venturer
>>EPA rulings, recess appointments ,amnesty, permits for oil drilling, you name it.
>
Reopublicans are quiet.

I think it is because most are Statists: there is nothing that their god [the state] cannot do.
Maybe a legal assumption applies: Silence implies consent.

21 posted on 10/15/2012 7:34:36 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 92nina

By what stretch of the imagination does an American government set any automobile mileage standards?

Where is this power found in the Constitution?

What’s Congress’ role in all this?

When was there a vote and who introduced the bill?

Which Amendment allows the executive branch to make law?


22 posted on 10/16/2012 3:55:37 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: DaxtonBrown

That’s the economics of government intervention. Make it costly to do what you want and people will find a work around.

Bastiat was right.


23 posted on 10/16/2012 4:03:44 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Road Glide

How about letting Congress pass laws and the EPA can simply suggest them? The executive branch cannot, by our Constitution, make law.


24 posted on 10/16/2012 4:16:21 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Nip

“I can easily foresee a future where the most important inheritance will be a well maintained antique car “

That’s why I own a 57 Bel Air and a 67 Camaro which I am restoring to bulletproof condition (stainless steel bolts, rustproofing, etc). They will go to my young niece, she can drive them to eternity. The Bel Air especially is built like a tank.

I’ve run the numbers, even with poor mileage you still come out ahead because of much lower upkeep, interest, etc. You get a non-depreciating car that’s top of the line if you just do quality maintenance and a few upgrades.


25 posted on 10/16/2012 12:02:25 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Nip

“I can easily foresee a future where the most important inheritance will be a well maintained antique car “

That’s why I own a 57 Bel Air and a 67 Camaro which I am restoring to bulletproof condition (stainless steel bolts, rustproofing, etc). They will go to my young niece, she can drive them to eternity. The Bel Air especially is built like a tank.

I’ve run the numbers, even with poor mileage you still come out ahead because of much lower upkeep, interest, etc. You get a non-depreciating car that’s top of the line if you just do quality maintenance and a few upgrades.


26 posted on 10/16/2012 12:02:47 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: 92nina

Why don’t they just mandate we all travel on magic carpets? They don’t usr any resources just magic.


27 posted on 10/16/2012 12:09:09 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: DaxtonBrown

Sounds promising, I have a 67 Camaro myself as a fun car.

But the feds will drive all these off the roads via legislation, most likely via tailpipe emission testing.

It’s possible you might get a 1000 mile / yr historiacal exemption or something similar, but no way they’re gonna let you dodge the bullets they’re firing.


28 posted on 10/16/2012 12:11:58 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: 92nina
Don't forget the people who are going die because they'll have to make these magic high-milage cars out of aluminium foil and Styrofoam.
29 posted on 10/16/2012 12:15:42 PM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray

And after the accidents skyrocket, expect the government to demand speed limits only faster than a snail’s velocity.


30 posted on 10/16/2012 12:48:34 PM PDT by 92nina
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To: nascarnation

I am aware of the risks as you are. But if things get that bad, we may be in Thunderdome territory anyway, in which case enviro laws will be broken by everyone.


31 posted on 10/16/2012 2:16:36 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
You're all missing the point. This is less to do about getting higher MPG and more to do with pricing people OUT of automobiles and consequently, suburban American life and back to major metropoitan area's where they can be more easily centrally managed and controlled.

It's another piece of Obama's "war on the suburbs" disguised as an EPA/high mileage requirement. Of course they know millions and millions of people won't be able to afford new (or used) vehicles when this goes into effect. That's exactly what they're counting on.

32 posted on 10/16/2012 2:28:25 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 92nina.


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