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Muslim Medical Students Refusing to Learn How to Treat Female Patients
frontpagemag.com/the-point ^ | Oct 9, 2012 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 10/09/2012 8:17:40 AM PDT by expat1000

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1 posted on 10/09/2012 8:17:50 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

>>, says that she is always overbooked and that most of her patients are Muslim.<<

If you are stupid enough to stay muslim you are stupid enough to suffer the consequences.


2 posted on 10/09/2012 8:20:20 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: justiceseeker93

{Ping!}

The worst infant mortality rates in the world are in Afghanistan. Even Saudi Arabia, which is wallowing in wealth, has an infant mortality rate that is worse than the Israeli West Bank, which has access to Israeli medical services. As is life expectancy for women in Saudi Arabia.


3 posted on 10/09/2012 8:20:47 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Simple answer is to FAIL them and don’t allow them to become doctors.


4 posted on 10/09/2012 8:21:10 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: expat1000
A recent article published in the Journal of Medical Ethics grappled with that question in the context of male Muslim medical students refusing to learn how to examine females because they believe it is wrong to touch women to whom they are not married or related.

Should review their web search history.

5 posted on 10/09/2012 8:21:21 AM PDT by fso301
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To: expat1000

Refusal to learn to treat female patients should be cause for instant expulsion from Western medical schools. The slots in these schools are far too valuable to allow this behavior.

It is long past time to quit accommodating these savages.


6 posted on 10/09/2012 8:21:58 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: expat1000

If it happens here, fail them and ship them back to whatever islamorectum that spawned them.


7 posted on 10/09/2012 8:22:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: expat1000

New rules for Muslims only.

1) There are no rules.


8 posted on 10/09/2012 8:23:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: expat1000

In medical school (at least medical schools in civilized countries) one is expected to gain at least a basic knowledge of every major specialty of medicine...if not the “minor” ones as well.Everything from Anesthesiology to Vascular Surgery and many in between.In civilized countries Obstetrics and Gynecology is most assuredly considered to be a major specialty.So,no OB/GYN...no diploma.In civilized countries,at least.And we shouldn’t recognize any diplomas from *un* civilized countries.Pakistan,for example.


9 posted on 10/09/2012 8:27:46 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: expat1000

Wait a sec here....do you realize that this will lower the number of abortions?


10 posted on 10/09/2012 8:27:54 AM PDT by ken5050 (Barack Obama: An empty suit sitting in an empty chair...)
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To: expat1000

The real war on women. And yet millions of American liberal women will vote for the guy who announced that if the winds blow in an ugly direction that he stands with the Muslims.


11 posted on 10/09/2012 8:28:59 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: expat1000

There is no depth below which a Muslim will not go.

We’re gonna go to war with these slime sooner or later.


12 posted on 10/09/2012 8:29:16 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: expat1000

Guess they flunk out of med school then.


13 posted on 10/09/2012 8:29:24 AM PDT by sniper63 (If Obama pats himself on the back anymore, his shoulder will dislocate.....)
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To: expat1000

I fear for the future of women. There truly is a war on women but the feminists - as always - are looking in the wrong direction.


14 posted on 10/09/2012 8:32:53 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: sniper63

>>Guess they flunk out of med school then.

Not really.

There’s a lot of double-speak and it’s not clear to me exactly what happened with these students, but there is a provision for ‘conscientious objectors’ to be taught by alternate means, other than ‘hands on’.

What’s completely bizarre about that, of course, is they may end up with the required theoretical knowledge, but will never use it!


15 posted on 10/09/2012 8:37:15 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: sniper63
Guess they flunk out of med school then.

Islamophobe!

16 posted on 10/09/2012 8:38:15 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: expat1000

No problem. Just examine them and then send them out to be stoned to death for the sluts they are. /sarcasm


17 posted on 10/09/2012 8:42:12 AM PDT by Ignatz (Winner of a prestigious 1960 Y-chromosome award!)
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To: expat1000

So long as a license to practice medicine is based upon demonstrated competence in ALL areas of medicine I say go for it. If muslim students want to waste four years of study and then voluntarily choose to flunk their internships, fine with me. Send them home.


18 posted on 10/09/2012 8:42:50 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: expat1000

Seems reasonable.

Perhaps we here in America should elect a muslim president and let him lecture us about the republican war on women har har durr!


19 posted on 10/09/2012 8:44:41 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
not at all, if you can't pass the required curriculum you fail. plain and simple.
20 posted on 10/09/2012 8:47:33 AM PDT by sniper63 (If Obama pats himself on the back anymore, his shoulder will dislocate.....)
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To: muir_redwoods
Maybe they could arrange a transfer of their credits to the Medical University of Islamabad.

After all, didn't BO lecture us that Islam has always led the cutting edge of science?

21 posted on 10/09/2012 8:48:05 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: muir_redwoods

Something is not wired correctly in their heads. I’ve been trying to examine every Vagina that I could find since I was 5 years old.


22 posted on 10/09/2012 8:48:12 AM PDT by vwbug
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To: expat1000

Our children had a Muslim pediatrician for 3 years. He was a fine doctor if a little difficult for me to understand. I don’t think all Muslim doctors skip out on parts of medical school.


23 posted on 10/09/2012 8:51:06 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: vwbug
Something is not wired correctly in their heads. I’ve been trying to examine every Vagina that I could find since I was 5 years old.

Definitely something Freudian about that capital "V", FRiend!

24 posted on 10/09/2012 8:53:48 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: petitfour
Our children had a Muslim pediatrician for 3 years. He was a fine doctor if a little difficult for me to understand. I don’t think all Muslim doctors skip out on parts of medical school.

Oh man you just committed a cardinal sin on FR /sarc.

25 posted on 10/09/2012 8:54:47 AM PDT by chargers fan
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To: expat1000
More glories from the people who "invented medicine."

How long before this crap migrates here?

In what seems to be a case of blatant Muslim appeasement and show of utter disregard to basic hygiene and safety of patients the UK Department of Health has exempted female Muslim Doctors and Nurses from the basic prerequisite of washing their hands before performing medical procedures as this would mean baring the arm up to the elbow, an act that would supposedly compromise their modesty.

UK exempts Muslim docs and nurses from basic hygiene

26 posted on 10/09/2012 8:56:50 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: muir_redwoods
So long as a license to practice medicine is based upon demonstrated competence in ALL areas of medicine I say go for it.

I'm not a medical professional but I worked in hospital administration for 20 years,working shoulder to shoulder with physicians and nurses during most of that time.There's no way on God's green earth that one can master most of medicine's disciplines without laying hands upon patients.Regarding females,two that come quickly to my mind are OB/GYN and Pediatrics.I'll wager my last dollar that privately,at least,there's not a single faculty member of a single US medical school that would support giving any student a pass on this subject.Of course political correctness may well force the AMA to draw up some sort of exemption before long.In fact,knowing academic medicine as I do (the hospital where I worked is very famous and is affiliated with a very famous medical school) I can guarantee that it will happen eventually.

27 posted on 10/09/2012 8:57:07 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: expat1000

They don’t seem to have a problem touching them as they are raping them.


28 posted on 10/09/2012 9:03:57 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: chargers fan

LOL

Would it help if I said that our current pediatrician is Jewish? And that she sends us to the best doctors in town and that most of those doctors also happen to be Jewish? I have to say that I never would have chosen a Muslim pediatrician, but husband had known him for years. The man is still in practice based on a quick Internet search in the last few minutes. I will have to ask my husband why Doctor moved to the US and why he has stayed.


29 posted on 10/09/2012 9:13:32 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: petitfour
Our children had a Muslim pediatrician for 3 years. He was a fine doctor if a little difficult for me to understand

Difficult to understand is a huge reason to find another doctor. One misunderstanding or miscommunication could lead to something very bad. Wrong dosage. Wrong treatment. Wrong explaination of symptoms. That's not a risk I'd take for myself much less my kids. We took lil miss in to the ER one night and the only doctor on call was a foreigner who didn't speak English. It was all very scary. Thankfully, there was an American nurse who shoved him out of the way and did his job for him.

30 posted on 10/09/2012 9:18:24 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Gay State Conservative

I didn’t say anything about mastering all areas, I suggested a measure of competence. In an emergency. A psychiatrist better know how to set a broken bone or deliver a baby even if it’s not her area of expertise.

You know, a bit more happiness is available to people who dont try to take every word literally and pounce on a generalization.


31 posted on 10/09/2012 9:22:12 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: expat1000

So Muslim doctors should be able to let a woman die lest they sully themselves by touching one.

But Catholic doctors should be forced to rip a living baby from a woman even though they believe it’s murder.

Yeah, that sounds just about right in the Obamanation.


32 posted on 10/09/2012 9:31:01 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: expat1000

LOL


33 posted on 10/09/2012 9:31:19 AM PDT by vwbug
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To: muir_redwoods
I didn’t say anything about mastering all areas..

Yes,my use of "mastering" was unwise."A clear familiarity" might have been a better way to put it.

34 posted on 10/09/2012 9:33:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: expat1000
male Muslim medical students refusing to learn how to examine females because they believe it is wrong to touch women to whom they are not married or related.

Another example to the extreme irrationality of a cult of a primitve barbarian culture of the type that one would expect to find among savages that love force and violence and its acts of destruction and slaughter

35 posted on 10/09/2012 9:39:09 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: faucetman

“Simple answer is to FAIL them and don’t allow them to become doctors.”

Then they sue for religious discrimination and our fifth column court system will side with them and force the schools to comply.


36 posted on 10/09/2012 9:41:19 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Da Coyote

Sooner or later? They’ve been at war with the rest of us for over a thousand years.


37 posted on 10/09/2012 9:43:46 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: bgill

Yeah well, the RN at the time has known husband since before his birth, so I figured she would make sure we had all dosages correct. As for communicating with this particular physician, we never had any problems that required complicated treatment. If we had, I know that my husband would have communicated effectively with Doctor and that the two of them would have come up with the answer. My husband does a mean Muslim Indian impersonation as well as a few others. Heh

If we were in that town again and one of our children needed a physician, we would go to this doctor again. There is a trust that this physician would go well beyond his duty as a physician in order to give our children the best care.


38 posted on 10/09/2012 9:44:46 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: bgill
Difficult to understand is a huge reason to find another doctor. One misunderstanding or miscommunication could lead to something very bad.

Most people who don't work for the government today have health plans that limit which doctors you can see.Given that,my policy has always been..1)get the insurer's list of who you can see for a particular problem...2) research each one's professional profile (easy to do in most states thanks to the web)...2) check medical school attended (Harvard is better than the University of Guadalajara),check which hospitals he/she trained at (Bellview Hospital is better than Karachi General Hospital) and which hospitals he/she is currently affiliated with (Cook County Hospital is better than Mid State Community Hospital).Choose wisely and you're very likely to get someone who,at least,is fully competent...if not highly skilled.

39 posted on 10/09/2012 9:47:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: faucetman

> Simple answer is to FAIL them and don’t allow them to become doctors.

Couldn’t agree more.
If the student is unwilling to learn the lesson then he will not graduate. It’s as simple as that.


40 posted on 10/09/2012 10:56:53 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama loved the poor so much, he created millions more.)
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To: FreedomPoster; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; ...
Refusal to learn to treat female patients should be cause for instant expulsion from Western medical schools. The slots in these schools are far too valuable to allow this behavior.

It is long past time to quit accommodating these savages.

Well said, FreedomPoster!

Thanks to an anonymous FReeper FRiend for the heads up on this thread...

41 posted on 10/09/2012 11:17:08 AM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: faucetman

Expel them immediately!

Or, better yet, don’t allow ANY MOSLEM to enroll in medical school!

Going further, I’d prefer that no Moslem be allowed to enter the USA!

And, going even further, I’d prefer to give the Moslems who are in the USA a choice to either renounce Islam, or leave!

The sooner we get tough on Islam, the better off we will all be!

Islam is not a religion; it is a political movement masquerading as a religion. And, since it is a death cult (270 million deaths in 1400 years attributed to the spread of Islam!), it is the most successful political movement in the history of the world.

See http://www.politicalislam.com for more information.


42 posted on 10/09/2012 11:49:11 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: ken5050

Refusing pre-natal care to women lowers the abortion rate? I think you forgot your sarcasm tag.


43 posted on 10/09/2012 11:59:58 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: expat1000

Stupid should hurt.


44 posted on 10/09/2012 12:02:53 PM PDT by Monkey Face (If you didn't know how old you are, how old would you be?)
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To: expat1000
because they believe it is wrong to touch women to whom they are not married or related.

I'll confess, given the way so many of them behave, I don't particularly want to be touched by them, either.
45 posted on 10/09/2012 12:57:26 PM PDT by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: vwbug
Here ya go! Start examining!


46 posted on 10/09/2012 1:09:29 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

LOL! Now, that is funny!

HST, if I were a doctor, I would not touch any of those women, either!

In fact, I am not a doc, and I won’t touchem!


47 posted on 10/09/2012 3:03:50 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The gyno I was referred to is a Mooselimb. I had no choice but if I can find a non-Mooselimb I will switch.


48 posted on 10/09/2012 8:51:24 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Keep on keepin' on. And that ain't no jive. Stuck in the Seventies and loving it! 1976,baby!)
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To: expat1000

no muslim doctors for me....I’d take a gun in my purse to any appointment then refuse to let the pig touch this old body


49 posted on 10/09/2012 9:07:51 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: muir_redwoods

Now that we are in socialized medicine shortage territory, we can’t afford to waste the medical school slots on these foreign cave men.

This is what will happen. Muslims will eventually be forced to mess (and abuse) with the infidel women they hate in med school and the medical profession. Then the Federal communists will say - well if Muzzies have to see women, Christians have to kill babies and conduct euthanisa...


50 posted on 10/09/2012 9:35:08 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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