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Barack Obama's war on America's fresh water supply: China is buying up Lake Michigan!
Coach is Right ^ | 8/7/2012 | Suzanne Eovaldi

Posted on 09/07/2012 9:12:24 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Barack Obama is keeping his promise to lower the sea levels, and he’s starting with the drought plagued Midwest where Lake Michigan water is being shipped by the boat loads over to China!

By using a little known loophole in the 2006 Great Lakes Compact, Obama minions are allowing Nestle Company to export precious fresh water out of Lake Michigan to the tune of an estimated $500,000 million to $1.8 million per day profit.

By draining the precious jewel of the Great Lakes in the middle of America, our federal water managers are allowing the export of our water out of our country across thousands of miles of oceans into the Asian basin plagued by huge population centers who are suffering from their constant lack of fresh water. How’s that for cutting America down to size?

The water is being sold at a “240 times markup,” that is, well over 240 times its production costs. (2) In 2006, then President George W. Bush signed into law a...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: barackobama; chinabuysuswater; chinawater; georgebush; greatlakes; lakemichigan; michigan; nestle; water
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To: cripplecreek

Sound more like environMENTAL crap, rather than holding all the water for the Chinese. As an aside, how can some environMENTAList think y’all’s puny wells can suck all the water out of Lake Michigan?


61 posted on 09/07/2012 11:54:49 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Nestle is owned by its shareholders; the water is drawn from its own property (in Stanwood, Michigan, by the way; 50 miles from Lake Michigan).

So back to my question: what other resources rights should the government confiscate from private owners? How about those nasty lime stone quarries at Rogers City? The copper up in the Keweenaw? The iron in Ipsheming? The oil and gas in Isabella County? The fish that the Chippewa pull out of Lake Huron at St. Ignace?

62 posted on 09/07/2012 11:55:50 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: hedgetrimmer
In the mean time China funds eco nuts to sue to prevent water resources from being developed in this country, hence the reason most of the west is on water rationing in the summer time.

That is really my biggest concern. I don't believe they're hauling massive bladders of water to China but they are more than happy to drive increasing restrictions here. There has been an ongoing fight up north over private wells involving Nestle where the company complained that the people were taking for free what they paid for and it was interfering with their ability to make money. After all, the the interstate commerce clause began with a similar situation with a farmer making his own bread.
63 posted on 09/07/2012 11:56:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Mr. Lucky

They are not drawing water from their property. They are drawing water from presumably federal jurisdiction.

What water rights are associated from the property they own on the lake front? Do they have federal water rights or federal use permits? If they are withdrawing water where multiple water use permits are granted, if their withdrawal affects others with water use permits then they must provide remedy to the others or stop.

Remember, a corporation is not a person.


64 posted on 09/07/2012 11:59:50 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Unfortunately the environmentalists do get involved and further cloud a real issue (Which isn’t China buying huge amounts of water)

That doesn’t mean that Obama and friends aren’t doing all they can to screw us bitter clingers.


65 posted on 09/07/2012 12:05:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: hedgetrimmer

The point is that the Great Lakes has 6.9 QUADRILLION Gallons of Water. It’s not possible to measurably change their water level by selling bottled water taken from them and transported in boxes by containership.

Buying bottled water is imbecilic for anyone, of course, so to me it’s a huge win to rip off foreign countries buying bottled water at a huge markup.

The posted article is so impossibly idiotic it’s tough to cover all of them, but another is yet another effort to blame Obama for something that 1) Can’t possibly have ever reached his level for decision and 2) started during the Bush administration, anyway.


66 posted on 09/07/2012 12:08:30 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: hedgetrimmer
Nestle's plant is in Mecosta County which isn't any where near Lake Michigan. Mecosta County is in the watershed of Lakes Michigan and Huron, but then again virtually the entire State of Michigan is in the watershed of one of the four upper Great Lakes.

If the federal government owns the right to confiscate the mineral rights on property owned by Nestle, it holds the right to confiscate the property of each of us.

67 posted on 09/07/2012 12:09:05 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: geologist

“They most assuredly are America’s land...”

Your problem, as I see it, is that that the means of production is privately owned. All of that food is owned by someone and the owner’s are free to do with the fruits of their labor and capital as they see fit. How do you propose to keep all this food in America? Are you going to limit property rights?

“Many are the ones that would sell it all for money.”

So you propose to give the food away? I guess you also know the correct price for selling food and just how much is needed and by whom.

Your system goes by the name of Communism.


68 posted on 09/07/2012 12:26:56 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: cripplecreek

I think I have more water in my stock tank than is at issue here.


69 posted on 09/07/2012 2:34:37 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle; Strategerist

Nestle better be careful. Selling to the Chinese will come back to bite them- soon the market will literally be flooded with cheap knock-offs...


70 posted on 09/07/2012 2:39:01 PM PDT by philled (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: Mr. Lucky

You of course, don’t know if the corporation owns mineral or water rights to the property.

You of course do know that if someone is taking water from a state or federal body of water, that is different than drilling a well on a property with water rights in the deed.


71 posted on 09/07/2012 3:29:09 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: FreedomNotSafety

A corporation is not ‘some one’. A corporation is not a person.

A corporation is a collective. The problem we are discussion is in fact global communism, as the globalists only recognize corporations as their constituents instead of individuals who in the past were the sovereigns with respect to our government.

Please get over the false claim that ‘someone’s’ rights are being violated. Corporations are not persons! They are business collectives that exist because the sovereign citizens grant them their existence.


72 posted on 09/07/2012 3:41:25 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Strategerist
The point is that the Great Lakes has 6.9 QUADRILLION Gallons of Water.

The POINT is national sovereignty, actually. We are not a sovereign nation when free traitors take over our natural resources to profit themselves and harm sovereign citizens. They have broken down the rights of citizens one by one with their global communist programs of 'free trade' and agenda 21. When a citizen is barred from using a state or federal body of water, but a corporation can, that is the problem. It is corruption and vile global communism.
73 posted on 09/07/2012 3:44:53 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Mr. Lucky
The fish that the Chippewa pull out of Lake Huron

Ha ha. Funny you should bring up the unconstitutional 'state within a state' the federal government grants the indian tribes to make a point about unalienable rights for corporations. Ha ha.
74 posted on 09/07/2012 3:48:32 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: cripplecreek

Great points.

Too bad these globalists can put a logical thought together to understand what is happening in the country.


75 posted on 09/07/2012 3:49:51 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
The real value is under the lakes in the vast Antrim gas field but our congress in all its wisdom declared it to be off limits to even slant drilling from shore.

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76 posted on 09/07/2012 3:55:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Apparently they are pulling water out of the aquifer that is affecting the lives and properties of downstream landowners whose property used to have streams running through them and/or wells.

People here are arguing that global corporations have more ‘rights’ than citizens with long standing use of state waters downstream from their operations.


77 posted on 09/07/2012 3:56:55 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Mr. Lucky
So back to my question: what other resources rights should the government confiscate from private owners?

Nestle is a 'private' owner now? I thought you said it had shareholders and shares were traded on the stock exchange. Nestle is a business collective, not a person.
78 posted on 09/07/2012 3:58:49 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Oldpuppymax
That makes me so mad! I remember reading at the beginning of her pResidency that he had assigned a Great Lakes czar. Now I know why. I think there was something else he was trying to do with the Great Lakes to our detriment, but I have forgotten.
79 posted on 09/07/2012 3:59:38 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: cripplecreek

Those chinese funded environmentalists again?


80 posted on 09/07/2012 4:00:11 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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