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Did Obamacare Ruling Overturn Roe v. Wade?
Reason's Thought, a blog of Townhall ^ | August 23, 2012 | reasonmclucus

Posted on 08/25/2012 7:17:41 PM PDT by kathsua

Those arguing over the constitutionality of Obamacare have consistently ignored the fact that Obamacare conflicts with the Supreme Court's ruling in Roe v. Wade. The Court's decision to uphold Obamacare may provide statements that could be used to justify regulating and possibly even prohibiting abortion.

The Court wouldn't need to refer to Roe v. Wade to in effect overturn it. The justices could inadvertently overturn Roe v. Wade by making statements that conflict with it. Attorneys could use such conflicts to argue that Roe v. Wade is no longer consistent with the Court's interpretation of the Constitution.

I'm going to leave the tedious process of examining specific comments by the Justices to those who get paid to do such things. I'm more interested in the general theory involved.

There is a certain absurdity to the Roe v. Wade ruling. The ruling is based on a philosophy of limited government that is closer to the normal views of those called "conservatives" than to the views of those called "liberals". However, the conservatives have traditionally opposed the decision and the liberals have supported it.

The two groups also reverse their normal positions on regulation of abortion providers. Conservatives, who normally try to limit government regulations, favor strict regulation of abortion providers. Liberals, who normally favor strict regulation of health care providers, believe women who seek abortions don't deserve the same protective regulations of health care providers that protect those who visit facilities that treat both men and women.

The philosophy of Roe v. Wade is that health care decisions like abortion are a private matter and government has only limited authority to intervene in private health care decisions. Obamacare is based on a philosophy that there is no right to privacy in health care. Government can control what health care people can obtain by forcing them to purchase insurance that may not cover the type of health care they want or need.

For example, consider the case of a young transsexual who wants to save money he budgets for health care until he has enough money to pay for surgery to transform him into a woman. He might be unable to save his money for the operation if he had to first pay for insurance that would not cover the cost of the operation. Or, consider the case of a young woman who wants to fix what she considers flaws in her appearance, including paying for breast enhancement. Insurance companies wouldn't cover such procedures.

Congress can require people to purchase insurance that only covers conventional treatments that don't help them.. If they benefit from "experimental" treatments instead they must first pay for the type treatment that doesn't help them before they pay for the treatment that works.

Under Obamacare, wealthy members of Congress decide whether or not individuals can afford health insurance regardless of the needs and priorities of specific individuals. Under Obamacare there is no right to privacy in determining spending priorities. Government dictates what they must spend on the health care the government decides they can have.

The people who voted in Obamacare ignore the fact that a Republican president and Congress could make different decisions about health care than a Democratic president and Congress. For example, a Republican president might be able to sharply limit the medical procedures associated with abortion.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: abortion; obamacare; overturn; roevwade
I hope some attorneys will consider what the writer is suggesting. It would be great if Obama and Democrats would be responsible for eliminating abortion.
1 posted on 08/25/2012 7:17:51 PM PDT by kathsua
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To: kathsua
It would be great if Obama and Democrats would be responsible for eliminating abortion.

I doubt that. They revere their machinery of racial extermination. They are not about to let such a thing happen.

2 posted on 08/25/2012 7:25:19 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: kathsua
I have been thinking along this line for quite some time.

Once you accept that the Government can dictate which medical procedures are allowed or not under the terms of insurance, what is to prevent a future Administration from deciding that abortion is inimicable to the health of women (or merely elective in most cases)?

Liberals are too f&^king stupid to see this of course.

3 posted on 08/25/2012 7:25:34 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: kathsua
The ruling is based on a philosophy of limited government that is closer to the normal views of those called "conservatives" than to the views of those called "liberals".

Huh ? Wade was Dallas County District Attorney Henry Wade, representing the State of Texas - as in a States rights issue. Not even close at all.
4 posted on 08/25/2012 7:25:55 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama -> Ransom "Rance" Stoddard)
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To: kathsua

The source is NOT Townhall.


5 posted on 08/25/2012 8:02:53 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Chosing Ryan = a choice between two dramatically divergent views of government spending & taxes.)
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To: kathsua

For example, a Republican president might be able to sharply limit the medical procedures associated with abortion.
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Well that wont be Willard Romney...

He signed the RomneyCare legislation in MASS that included $50 abortions...

He swore he would not overturn Roe V Wade

He swore to “protect a woman’s right to an abortion”

He said that if parents wouldnt give theuir permission for their under age daughters to have an abortion he would get the judges to overrule parental authority...


6 posted on 08/25/2012 8:19:57 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Well that wont be Willard Romney... He signed the RomneyCare legislation in MASS that included $50 abortions... He swore he would not overturn Roe V Wade He swore to “protect a woman’s right to an abortion” He said that if parents wouldnt give theuir permission for their under age daughters to have an abortion he would get the judges to overrule parental authority...

you need to pay closer attention to situations as they progress. When Romney was faced with making a direct decision concerning abortion, he decided against it and thereafter reviewed his own feelings on the subject. After examining his conscience (as we all should do) he decided in faver of a pro-life stance. Is that flip-flopping....nope, it is awakening to truth, realizing the previous error of ones ways....like we all do. I give him a lot of credit for his change of heart.

7 posted on 08/25/2012 9:02:29 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: kathsua
I'm going to leave the tedious process of examining specific comments by the Justices to those who get paid to do such things. I'm more interested in the general theory involved.

Those "tedious specifics" are derived from the general theory involved. And in the case of the Roberts decision, they specify that Obamacare is imposed only on corporations, not natural persons.

Some people call that tedium. Some people call it freedom.

But most people remain silent, and hold their breath.

How Chief Justice Roberts Saved America

8 posted on 08/25/2012 9:11:10 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Please, Roberts just demonstrated how this court will rule on an issue like this.


9 posted on 08/25/2012 11:15:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: kathsua

The author uses a lot of words, yet misses the most basic point. Obamacare requires that all medical files be submitted and maintained in a federal database. This one requirement eliminates the supposed “privacy” established by Roe.

Yes, Obamacare legislatively overturned Roe. When I point this out to libtards, their heads explode.


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To: NoLibZone

It IS a “Blog of Townhall.”


12 posted on 08/26/2012 6:14:53 AM PDT by PghBaldy (http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/08/22/missouri-voters-chose-akin-not-so-much/)
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