Skip to comments.Whatever Happens this November Will Change our Nation.
Posted on 08/05/2012 3:14:09 PM PDT by DanMiller
Regardless of the electoral outcome, the possibility of civil unrest should not be discounted.
Our societal divide has become a widening and deepening chasm to the point that regardless of who wins the presidential election civil unrest seems increasingly likely.
I wrote here about the Civil War of 1861 - 65 and here about the constitutional implications and causes of that war. Should violence follow the November election, the conflagration and its context will be very different. It will have less to do with North versus South or with our few remaining States' rights. It may be influenced by the increasing misery brought on by persistent and worsening economic conditions and the tendency of governmental efforts "unexpectedly" to exacerbate rather than to ameliorate them.
There may be no discernible focus at all. Big riots can easily spring from circumstances ignited by minor displeasures, celebrations or for no apparent reason. "Flash robs" assemble to rob stores of luxury goods or just for the Hell of it. An unfortunate incident can be turned into a cause celebre by race or other agitators abetted by sensationalist media pleased to invent what they then report as facts. A White candidate defeating an incumbent Black President -- who has himself been historically effective in fomenting racial, economic and social hatred -- might easily be the catalyst for an already unstable chemical mixture to explode. If the race is too close to call on election day, the chances are probably greater. Conversely, a victory by President Obama could be transformed from a celebration into demands for revenge against perceived perpetrators of perceived past wrongs. In either event, individual and apparently unrelated mobs seem likely to expand, multiply and coalesce as focused leaders take charge and shape mob positions to suit their own ambitions. Violence and threats of more can be useful tools for shaping revolutions. They also provide great opportunities for attacks by terrorists and other external enemies to become quite troublesome. The ultimate consequences are now difficult to imagine; in three months it may be easier to figure out at least the direction(s) in which things are heading.
My guess is that in the event of a major coalescing conflagration the ultimate focus will be on the form the Dependency Plantation is to take as it evolves and expands before entering a death spiral, as it ultimately will: such a plantation can not remain viable indefinitely as fewer and fewer do the work and pay the taxes for the benefit of more and more.
I very much hope that we, as a nation, don't have to experience such turmoil. We may, and if we do it may become more bloody and deadly than during the earlier Civil War; our means of killing and maiming each other have improved greatly since then.
There seems to be official recognition that civil unrest is possible. There have been reports of substantial Federal purchases of riot gear to deal with civil unrest, possibly at the Republican and Democrat conventions and thereafter. Displeasure with our current economic travails coupled with hatred on all sides directed against those on other sides may well find outlets in violence.
The conditions are certainly ripe for civil unrest in this country. A multitude of recent polls and surveys have shown that Americans are angrier and more frustrated than ever. Sadly, we are taking a lot of that anger and frustration out on each other. America is more divided today than at any other time since the Civil War era. The left absolutely hates Mitt Romney the Republicans, and the right absolutely hates Barack Obama and the Democrats. If you doubt this, just surf political blogs for a few hours and read the comments that people leave. This country is a boiling cauldron of hatred and anger and all it is going to take is just the right spark to cause all of this hatred and anger to absolutely explode. This upcoming election season is likely to be one of the most heated and divisive election seasons in U.S. history, and if there is not a clear winner on election night there is the potential that chaos could be unleashed that would be far, far worse than anything we saw during the Bush/Gore debacle of 2000. (Emphasis in original.)Many such articles have appeared in the "right-wing-nut media," few in the "principled" media. I wonder why -- is it because there is nothing factual of significance behind the stories, or because there is? We should know after the election whether there's anything worthy of concern. If unpleasant events occur, the "principled" media are likely to report as they did when big White bully George Zimmerman killed sweet little Black child Trayvon Martin -- thereby making the situation far more volatile and dangerous.
In the meantime, this from the August 4th issue of Power Line:
What collection of WSC greatest hits would be complete without the passage from The Grand Alliance (volume 3 of his World War II memoirs) about the character of the United States:Silly peopleand there are many, not only in enemy countriesmight discount the force of the United States. Some said they were soft, others that they would never be united. They would fool around at a distance. They would never come to grips. They would never stand the blood-letting. Their democracy and system of recurrent elections would paralyze their war effort. They would be just a vague blur on the horizon to friend or foe. Now we should see the weakness of this numerous but remote, wealthy, and talkative people. But I had studied the American Civil War, fought out to the last desperate inch. American blood flowed in my veins. I thought of a remark which Edward Grey had made to me more than thirty years beforethat the United States is like a gigantic boiler. Once the fire is ignited under it there is no limit to the power it can generate.
The gentlemanly principles that many revered back in 1861 have vanished with few remaining vestiges.
Here's a link.
Perhaps it may eventually be necessary to decide with whose principles one's own are the most closely aligned. For me, the necessity to make a choice under such circumstances will be painful and therefore difficult; should it have to be made, however, making it will be easy.
Here's a link. Wouldn't something like this be better?
Having already begun my seventy-second year on Earth I probably won't see it. It would, however, be the high point of my life could I do so.
No change may even be more worser.
Won’t change a thing except the speed at which we’re headed to hell. If Obama wins, its full speed ahead; if its Romney, we apply some brakes. Turning around is going to take something else altogether, including the capacity to absorb a lot of pain.
Barry and the ‘RATS have divided this country beyond repair. I agree that we’ll probably see another civil war. It’s going to get ugly. The communists want America and it’s riches and Americans don’t want to give them up. This has been the DemocRATS’ plan all along. Electing Obama was one of the biggest mistakes that this country ever made and skin tone has NOTHING to do with it.
Good Lord NO!
Blogs suck, they are written by the lowest of society.
Never will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Any smacktard homeless guy who can find a public library can write a blog.
Disliking the MSM is one thing, embracing blogs is another.
It's like disliking cold day-old beans. Yep, they're bad.
But that's no reason to prefer a dog-poop sandwich instead.
Whatever Happens this November Will Change our Nation.
***We suffered a death blow to the republic in 2008 when the SCOTUS refused to do their job and investigate the eligibility of the POTUS-elect per the 20th amendment. What we are witnessing is just the death throes of the republic.
It’s like a potatoe worm that’s been sliced in half. It keeps squirming and fighting, but it is already dead.
it will be this:
and whites caught in blue zones will suffer for it
And the dark side recognizes the possibility of insurrection. Those 455 million rounds of ammunition ordered by Homeland “Security,” along with 30,000 drones soon to be in this country skies are not an accident. Hellfire missiles could eventually be raining down on American neighborhoods. It will be ugly and many will die.
If we could first know where we are and whither we are tending, we could better judge what to do and how to do it. We are now far into the fifth [decade] since a policy was initiated with the avowed object and confident promise of [tolerating Marxist-Alinsky] agitation. Under the operation of that policy, that agitation has not only not ceased but has constantly augmented [to where it is arguable "the Establishment."]. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. "A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half [Marxist-Alinsky campus radicals (psycho spoiled brats actually)] and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other. Either the opponents of [statism] will arrest the further spread of it and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction, or its advocates will push it forward till it shall become alike lawful in all the states, old as well as new, North as well as South.
Remember, blogs are the new form of journalism.
I have been predicting a second American revolution.
I am seriously considering going down to my father-in-law’s home in Florida for the election. He and my brother-in-law have lots of guns and ammo. Seriously, our cities may not be safe.
Like it or not, the MSM as we know of is no more.
Talk radio and blogs are the way to go.
Look for more blue areas to go red or at least “purple”.
In the same way that open sewers were the new form of plumbing.
Having a blog does not make you a journalist.
Pimping your crap on legitimate websites does not make you a journalist.
I'll say it again:
Disliking the MSM does not mean one must embrace putrid stolen garbage as an alternative.
Your opinion, not mine.
Deal with it.
Plus I would rather read what a blogger has to say than someone in the old MSM world who simply is touting the same old, same old smoke and mirrors.
That's odd, since you rip off their material and re-word it (badly)
and present it as "original" material. You're a thief, plain and simple.
Hell, you don't even steal the GOOD stuff.
You rip off an MSM story and flog-a-blog about it, tell me you don't.
Where is your research staff? Who do you have "in the field"?
Have you any assets that can be sued against should you "report" total crap?
Bloggers are nothing, any fool can "blog" any idiotic thing he wants with no repercussions.
Maybe Godzilla landed on Uranus! Blog about it, who's to stop you?
That's freedom. Freedom to be total fiction and opinion.
Have fun, write stuff, Just don't expect anyone to believe it.
And take care, Godzilla could really tear up Uranus.
An honest question — given the unreliability if not outright perfidy of the MSN (if they say “X” I assume “anti-X” is true as a default position), ditto the gubmint, and blogs often little more than personal observations or opinions thoughtful or crackpot (pretty much also a description of FR), from where do you gather information?
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