Savannah Guthrie Photographed Two Different Birth Certificates

Youtube ^ | June 20, 2012 | Chatter4

[chatter4]

Savannah Guthrie posted two pictures she took of Obama's long form Birth Certificate, but, it can be clearly seen that she photographed two different documents.

[chatter4]

Great video. It can clearly be seen that the text of one certificate is different than that released by the Whitehouse. http://youtu.be/xgqlaco9OHY

[alstewartfan]

Whichever document Obama presents is the real document, I believe. Unless he presents BOTH, in which case I will believe that there are two of them. Bob

[InterceptPoint]

Ping for later.

[KarlInOhio]

It would be nice to have the actual images rather than videos of the images. One looked like a very low resolution copy and a lot of strange things can happen to the edges of characters and solid blocks if you change the resolution between high and low res a couple of times. If the stretching of that "S" in Hussein was multiple pixels in the low res image then I consider it far more important than if it was only a single pixel.

[muawiyah]

Things happen below the unaugmented optical range of the human eye ~ every single time. That’s why photoshop is so much fun.

[Joe 6-pack]

Obama’s intellect is so massive it required two deliveries.

[chatter4]

Well Bob, to date, Obama has presented at least three different versions of his “original” long form Birth Certificate, and they are all different. He presented Xerox copies to those present at the press conference, one of which was scanned by the AP; one was presented to the public in Pdf form on the White house servers, and two were photographed by Savannah Guthrie. One of her photos, closely matches the text of the first two documents, and the 2nd photo shows that it is entirely different than the first two versions in a number of ways.

[chatter4]

“It would be nice to have the actual images rather than videos of the images.” Links to those images were provided in the info below the video.

[bluecat6]

Look at the ‘ty’ in University in box 12b.

Compare ABCs blue background scan to the ‘official’ pdf.

Note that ABCs version has much better detail on the curling tails.

The ‘ABC’ version is definitely different than the ‘official’ version.

[spawn44]

The guys a complete ANTI AMERICAN FRAUD. He can’t produce anything except SMOKE SCREENS. DECEPTION is his only way forward. And the LAPDOG whimps infested in the MSM are still kissing his royal heinie. It doesn’t get any more pathetic than that.

[FLAMING DEATH]

I messed with this a little. First, I got screen captures of the two different images.

Then, I overlaid one atop the other and did a video of the transition between the two. Pay attention to the first "a" in the words "East Africa" and the first "S" in "Hussein".

Why do several elements of the foreground appear to be moving independently of the background in that animation? Notice on the right, the numbers 9, 12b, and 14 appear to move to the left, independent of the background. Definitely weird. I agree that strange things can happen, but I've never seen whole letters move up and down a page like this, nor foreground elements ever move across a "safety paper" background. Notice also the dot below the "S" in the David A. Sinclair picture. The last name in the signature moves in relation to the dot, but the first name/MI stay put. WHY?

[GeorgeWashingtonsGhost]

WRONG. I have overlapped these two images in Photoshop and they are without question, IDENTICAL. Any visual differences are optical illusions because when they are stacked on top of each other in layers they match up perfectly.

The birth certificate is still forged but these two photos are of the same document, without any doubt.

[edge919]

The shrinking capital E on East Africa is hilarious.

BTW, can someone do a close-up of the raised seal on Savannah’s photos and compare it with the seal on the letter of verification sent to the Mississippie Democrat Excecutive Committee?? The latter is what an official raised seal looks like. The seal on Savannah’s, I’m pretty sure, looks nothing like that. It’s as clear a sign as any that the the LFBC is a sham.

[bolobaby]

Your animation is much more convincing than anything posted by chatter4. The fact that the numbering shifts so far to the left and the way the signatures realign is a bit strange.

[GeorgeWashingtonsGhost]

When you line two layers up in Photoshop, ONE LAYER MUST BE SCALED, SKEWED, OR DISTORTED TO MATCH THE OTHER IDENTICALLY due to differences in camera angles of the original photographs and here they are not lined up precisely. This accounts for the shifting in your animated gif.

[KarlInOhio]

I'm not worried about the safety paper background. It is not from the original BC but rather what the microfilm (or digital scan of the microfilm depending on how they store it now) is printed on. Tweak the printer and the letters can move around the background because of slight changes in the paper location, twist in the printer or zoom level when printed from two different printings of the same Hawaiian originals.

The most interesting parts are the shift of the 9, 12b and 14 relative to the vertical line next to it. I don't know if that shift is from sub-pixel scanning errors on the low resolution grayscale image or if it is real. I'm not willing to brush it off like I have a lot of other claims to proof of a forgery which were obvious image processing artifacts. Very interesting. Thanks.

[GeorgeWashingtonsGhost]

Here you go.. These are the two Savannah Guthrie photos, aligned and layered into an animated gif. The document is the same:

[FLAMING DEATH]

Perhaps so, but the real problem I have is with the letters in HUSSEIN and EAST rising mysteriously.

Also, when the image distorts, all elements within the image, especially those in close proximity, should move the same direction.

The last name in the DAVID A SINCLAIR signature appears to move INDEPENDENTLY of the elements above it and below it, especially the black dot below the S in SINCLAIR. If it was due to “skewing” of the image, that element would move also. It does not.

[GeorgeWashingtonsGhost]

My last comment on this.. Since color is not an issue in this analysis, it helps to convert both images to grayscale prior to comparing.

[skinkinthegrass]

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[GeorgeWashingtonsGhost]

This thread is about comparing Savannah Guthrie’s two photos of Obama’s bc that she took while at the White House. So, you are comparing the ‘blue’ and ‘green’ PDF files and not the two Guthrie photos?

[FLAMING DEATH]

I’d be interested in seeing that zoomed in more and a larger portion of the documents animated, including the 9, 12b and 14 at the right, as well as the entire Sinclair signature.

[GeorgeWashingtonsGhost]

The small square you see in my grayscale animated gif is the entire image area of one of the two Guthrie photos. The main photo is her other photo. These are the only photos she took that were published on the web. I also have a ‘blue’ vs. ‘green’ comparison animated gif and those bc’s are also the same. Don’t get caught in the minutia of comparing same documents when we know the issue really is, ‘Is the birth certificate TRUE and ACCURATE’? NO!

[edge919]

There’s differences in spacing between the lettering and the sizes of letters within the boxes that wouldn’t be accounted for by camera angles. Let’s not make unnecessary excuses for obvious anomalies.

[GregNH]

So it goes like this;

Forger: Here ya go boss, how does it look?

Boss: Great! I'll keep this one and you upload the file onto My website.

Forger: Ok Boss, I have just have a couple of small touch ups to make and I'll print out the final version as well.

Guthrie seeing two docs photo'd both.

[alstewartfan]

Well, I guess we have no choice now but to believe all three! And I also believe Eric Holder. *choke*

[thecodont]

Thanks for showing this! Sure is strange, isn’t it? The layer with the text isn’t matching up with the layer with the background.

[chatter4]

“WRONG. I have overlapped these two images in Photoshop and they are without question, IDENTICAL. Any visual differences are optical illusions because when they are stacked on top of each other in layers they match up perfectly.
The birth certificate is still forged but these two photos are of the same document, without any doubt.”

Nice try, but, when you can measure a difference between the heights of the letters on your monitor, it’s not an optical illusion.

[bitt]

I LIKE “HUWAII”.

I am completely convinced that the One was born in Huwaii, after seeing this document.

/s

[chatter4]

“I am completely convinced that the One was born in Huwaii, after seeing this document.”

I’ve found that “Huwai” is in Indonersia.