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BATF Seeks Ban on “Military” Shotguns: Over 5 Rounds
The Tea Party Economist ^ | May 28, 2012 | Gary North

Posted on 05/28/2012 2:58:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is inviting public comments on its new rule regarding shotguns. It plans to ban them.

There will be a ban on imports. (Note: watch prices rise on those already in the USA.)

The basis of this ban will be the guns’ semi-automatic status. It the magazine has more than five rounds, the weapon will be banned.

Why? Because the BATF designates these as “military.”

Somehow, I cannot see Sergeant York with a 7-round shotgun taking on the Germans.

Gen. George Patton wore ivory-handled revolvers. I wonder if these are scheduled for a ban.

The guns must be used in sport, only.

Yet there are shooting competitions involving held by national shooting clubs.

Dudley Brown, Executive Director of Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, said if the ATF succeeds with the banning of tactical shotguns it “will be the most dangerous interpretation of the 1968 Gun Control Act ever envisioned and will outlaw thousands of perfectly legitimate home defense shotguns.”

If you want to comment on the proposed ban, send an email to shotgunstudy@atf.gov


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; batf; batfeisajoke; bloodoftyrants; bootthebatfe; donttreadonme; obama; rapeofliberty; romney; shotguns; tyranny; waronliberty
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The guns must be used in sport, only.”

Clarification: OLD sports. “Three gun” shotguns don’t count.

“Sporting purpose” is whatever sport the BATFE purposes.


41 posted on 05/28/2012 6:19:21 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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42 posted on 05/28/2012 6:20:14 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: cayuga

It’s making the rounds again. Might be a different new version, as the wording is a bit different this time.


43 posted on 05/28/2012 6:20:38 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Who sells them, and weight?


44 posted on 05/28/2012 8:24:26 PM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: MindBender26

More info here on it.
http://www.berettausa.com/products/a391-xtrema2/

The price listed is $1,450.00 but I have seen them used for as low as $900 or so.

Any gun dealer who has an FFL should be able to order it for you.


45 posted on 05/28/2012 8:41:42 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Watches the video1

Sa... weet!


46 posted on 05/28/2012 8:56:27 PM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: wastedyears
With the BATF it won't be voted on, they can just make up regulations as they wish.

The only solution is to eliminate the BATF, every stinking tyrannical bit of it.

47 posted on 05/29/2012 1:40:39 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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Come and Take it, in Japanese!

48 posted on 05/29/2012 5:07:23 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Army Air Corps

Why did you use a sarcasm tag?


49 posted on 05/29/2012 5:55:48 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: tacticalogic

Excellent question!


50 posted on 05/29/2012 5:59:54 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Touche.


51 posted on 05/29/2012 6:17:39 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Because the BATF designates these as “military.”

You can't have a "well regulated militia" with weapons that aren't suitable for military use. This violates both the letter and the spirit of the Second Amendment.

52 posted on 05/29/2012 6:28:13 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Somehow, I cannot see Sergeant York with a 7-round shotgun taking on the Germans.

Indeed. That would have been Sergeant Fred Lloyd with the 12-gage trench broom; York was a Tennessee born and bred rifle marksman:

The Winchester Model 97 -- firing a modern 12-gauge shell -- with pump action; six-round magazine capacity; and short, 18-inch barrel was brought over by American military police and infantrymen and soon became known as the "trench sweeper." An infantryman breaking into a trench could sweep both sides of it (to the depth of a passageway) with multiple buckshot rounds. Once leaders understood the 50-meter range of this weapon, it was employed with skill. A soldier with a shotgun, fast to pump and fire, could quickly suppress German trench assaults and clear dugouts with devastating effectiveness. Out of the trenches, the Model 97 cleared Germans out of farmhouses and buildings in French villages with equal effectiveness. On 27 September 1918, Sergeant Fred Lloyd, using a Model 97, advanced alone into a German-held village and began methodically clearing it, pumping and firing the shotgun as he moved. He finally collapsed with exhaustion after routing thirty German soldiers. The combat shotgun had earned its place as an Army secondary weapon.

53 posted on 05/30/2012 4:52:10 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: preacher
AA-12. World's deadliest shotgun!

Clearly you've never seen what the 120mm smoothbore main gun of an Abrams tank loaded with an XM1028 APERS round can do.


54 posted on 05/30/2012 4:58:30 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t this *precisely* the sort of arm protected by the second amendment?


55 posted on 06/01/2012 2:45:38 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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