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NBC's Savannah Guthrie Unintentionally Proves Obama Birth Certificate Tampered With (pencil marks)
BirtherReport.com ^ | May 23, 2012 | Mark Gillar

Posted on 05/23/2012 12:55:05 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

After downloading the file from whitehouse.gov and importing it into Adobe Illustrator, one need only to release the clipping mask in order to see two pieces of vital statistics coding not present on the original Ms. Guthrie photographed. A clipping mask that hides information is in and of itself a clear sign of document tampering, but we'll save that for another day.

Since it is impossible to scan a document and have additional information show up on the computer file that was not on the original, one must conclude that the electronic file Obama released has been tampered with and that the computer file might be the parent of the certified paper copy instead of the other way around. It also opens the possibility that yet another electronic file constructed on computer is the parent of both the certified copy Ms. Guthrie photographed and the electronic file posted on whitehouse.gov. Regardless of the exact cause of this anomaly, one this is for certain: The certified copy of Obama's birth certificate photographed by Ms. Guthrie cannot be the parent of the electronic scan posted for download at whitehouse.gov.

(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Brown Deer

Have you looked in the mirror yet ? I know it is probably a hard thing for you to face.


41 posted on 05/23/2012 7:46:43 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: Miss Behave

Here’s the thing, you don’t need advanced knowledge of imaging to understand how acrobat creates layers. So when someone who claims they have advanced expertise doesn’t understand the basics, it makes me doubt their credibility.


42 posted on 05/23/2012 7:51:25 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: MrShoop
Here’s the thing, you don’t need advanced knowledge of imaging to understand how acrobat creates layers.

There you go again, talking about something which you know absolutely nothing about.
43 posted on 05/23/2012 7:59:52 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: MrShoop

and you need to do a lot of homework before you talk about credibility:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2885601/posts?page=72#72

try that one for starters.


44 posted on 05/23/2012 8:16:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: FlyVet
"Without having any knowledge of the situation, that image looks strange. My B.C. copy fills up the whole page, and who has a copy of their B.C. that doesn’t? Is that normal?"

For some reason I never had my birth certificate, so when time for Social Security came I had to send to the State where I was born and ask for it. I could tell it was a card filled out mostly in my mothers writing, then there was some typed in things, and a doctors signature. This ORIGINAL card was then copied onto that same type of green paper as Obama's.

When my grandchildren were born I filled out all the paper work, but when the Certified Copy came it was all typed up and it filled out the whole page. It was no longer in my orginal writing. Their's is on a pale blue basquet weave paper.

45 posted on 05/23/2012 8:19:50 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: RegulatorCountry

but they’re not stupid and they’re not willing to put themselves in personal legal jeopardy.

see fast and furious and get back to me...


46 posted on 05/23/2012 8:47:01 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Miss Behave; MrShoop; Mr. K; Brown Deer; Fantasywriter; TigersEye
"If you really wrote imaging software you should understand how weak most of the accusations are."

If you can spare seven minutes of your life, check this out and see whether you consider the author's presentation "weak" or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

47 posted on 05/23/2012 9:05:57 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Fantasywriter

Yes, the radio guy. I had forgotten about that.


48 posted on 05/23/2012 9:24:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: MrShoop

The only question is whether you are a volunteer or hired.


49 posted on 05/23/2012 9:27:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; MrShoop

{{{Crickets chirping}}}


50 posted on 05/23/2012 10:25:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: MrShoop
I had to go out; I was already late and couldn't wait any longer. I'm back now but limited for time so I'll make this brief.

Check my posting history. I have never called the monstrosity Obama digitally displayed a “forgery”, nor have I ever alluded to a “conspiracy”. What I have said, repeatedly, is that Obama released an “abstract”, which is what in fact he did release. This does not involve criminality on HI’s part. [Though they did obviously participate in making this particular abstract look like something it isn't. That, however, is not a criminal act—just a very deceptive one.] It only makes them an accessory to Obama’s ugly eligibility shell game.

The info on the abstract probably represents what Obama’s record currently looks like, following at least two adoptions. From that perspective, HI can cover their butt by alluding to the COLB, which also reflects the results of Obama’s adoptive machinations. Obama is the real deceiver here. He has released one thing and called it something else. In that sense, Sheriff Joe has him dead to rights, and I hope he nails Obama’s hide figuratively to the wall.

If you've spent half an hour reading over the various anomalies and other issues w the abstract, you would know there's no way it is the original LF BC. Plus, as I said, it doesn't look like the description of the ‘birth record’. As you noted, Fukino said it was half handwritten. That doesn't refer to a fully typed form that has been signed. It refers to a document that is partially typed and partially handwritten.

Here's what Abercrombie said: “It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down.”

He is referring to a notation or a listing, obviously not the standard form typed BC that was released. Unless you are deep in the tank for Obama, you can plainly see that the description of the ‘birth record’ in no way matches the mongrel form that was released. [Mongrel, because it was clearly pasted together from several other documents.]

The abstract is the reason HI gets the vapors when someone like Bennett asks for simple info. HI is walking a tightwire. They have to finagle a way to affirm the info on the COLB w’out referring to the most recently released form as an original LF BC. This explains why it took them three mos to answer Bennett's straightforward and reasonable questions.

Obama is lying like no POTUS has ever lied. You do yourself and no one else any favors by not digging in and informing yourself of the various inconsistencies and issues involved in Obama’s documents. W the MSM and the corrupt HI officials in his corner, Obama has very little to worry about. (Hopefully Sherriff Joe will nail him; Joe's really our only hope right now.) One thing we don't need is to have people shilling for Obama who haven't bothered to educate themselves on his various deceptions. The sooner Obama is called out for his lies, the better it will be for us all.

51 posted on 05/23/2012 10:26:03 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fred Nerks
I did my homework, it is pretty clear that Hawaii has confirmed his birth, whether you believe it or not. If you think it is fake, then you;d have to believe all these people are part of a massive conspiracy...

Hawaii Health Department Grants President Obama's Request for Certified Copies of 'Long Form' Birth Certificate

On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama’s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.

President Obama authorized Ms. Corley to pick up the documents. On April 25, 2011, Ms. Corley appeared in person at the Hawai‘i State Department of Health building in Honolulu, paid the requisite fee, and was given the two certified copies, a response letter from Director Fuddy to President Obama, and a receipt for payment. (Letter from Director Fuddy is attached).

In June 2008, President Obama released his Certification of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “short form” birth certificate. Both documents are legally sufficient evidence of birth in the State of Hawai‘i, and both provide the same fundamental information: President Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawai‘i at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama.

So are all these people lying? The governor, the director of health, the state registrar?

52 posted on 05/23/2012 10:50:57 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; Miss Behave; Mr. K; Brown Deer; Fantasywriter; TigersEye
I find it very weak because he didn't go through the steps that many sites, including Nation Review, have outlined where you can get similar layered results as were seen in the PDF from the white house.

National Review:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding

Youtube Demo of how layers are created by adobe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcWQw2AAIho

53 posted on 05/23/2012 11:00:54 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: Fantasywriter
The short form released in the 2008 campaign was an abstract. It theoretically could have left out key details. However, the long form released last year can in no way be called an abstract. It is a copy of an original document from 1961. You can claim it is a forgery, but just based on the dates it would predate any adoption.

I know you haven't said there is a conspiracy, but the point I'm making is that for your theories to be true it necessitates a conspiracy because so many high ranking hawaiian officials are telling the same story.

54 posted on 05/23/2012 11:09:47 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: All

I’m sorry Freepers, I’ve been a Birther from day one. I was the first to put a video on Youtube questioning Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth. I believe that his long form Certificate of Live Birth is a total fraud. I do not believe Obama is a natural born citizen, and therefore he is not legally or Constitutionally eligible to be our President.

However, this article is total baloney. If you download a copy of the photo Savannah Guthrie posted of Obama’s long form Birth Certificate and then brighten the image, so you can see the security pattern and compare it to the “unmasked” image, presented in this article, you’ll see that Savannah’s photo shows a wider edge than the “unmasked” photo. How could that happen? Mark Gillar claims it’s not possible. Simple. Remember Obama got two copies of the document. He showed one of them to Savannah, and scanned the other, which may have gotten smudge marks on it.


55 posted on 05/23/2012 11:12:27 PM PDT by chatter4
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To: MrShoop

Based on your logic, Sun Yat-sen was born in HI. You really are an Obot. You ignore any info that conflicts w the Obot narrative and accept anything at face value that affirms your faith in Obama and his records. Well he said he was born in Kenya. Maybe for once he was telling the truth; have you considered that?


56 posted on 05/23/2012 11:13:51 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: MrShoop

So if you believe that zero is the son of the kenyan and the white teenager from Kansas, what are you doing here? You aught to be thrilled that the WON you voted for is where he is, and go back to sleep.


57 posted on 05/23/2012 11:14:46 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: MrShoop
ESAD you scumbag 0bot!
58 posted on 05/23/2012 11:22:45 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: MrShoop

The National Review explanation was just painfully and obviously stupid. The video demo was rather poor and lacked the obvious expertise that the demos linked in post #47 has.


59 posted on 05/23/2012 11:40:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Fantasywriter

Can you not differentiate the Sun Yat-sen story from over 100 years ago when Hawaii wasn’t even a state from a certified document signed by a doctor and filed within 2 days of the birth date? What’s your standard for validity in Hawaii - no certificates are real because of Sun Yat-sen?


60 posted on 05/24/2012 12:17:28 AM PDT by Wayne07
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