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Have Republicans No Sympathy For the Jobless?
The Christian Diarist ^ | May 12, 2012 | JP

Posted on 05/12/2012 7:59:16 AM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

How’s this for satisfying our desire to help the “temporarily needy”? Let’s get government the f*** OUT of the way, allow business to thrive, allow charities to do their works, allow private individuals to keep more of the products of their own labors so that they can help family and friends more directly, allow invention and energy and economics ad entrepreneurship to steer the course of our nation’s path... rather than the sanctimonious morons who thrive on taking power and money and freedom and time and joy away from us every day.


41 posted on 05/12/2012 9:32:01 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Both parties are culprits. Actually the governor should post all the job vacancies in his State as should anyone else who claims this.

Republicans decry Government dependency but pass laws enhancing the exporting of jobs which creates government dependency. Job exporting companies have off-loaded American employee costs to the government to enhance profits.

Democrats thrive on government dependency and offer placebos like green jobs which they know is not going to solve the job problem.

We have to wait until things get worse, and they will, until another Ross Perot emerges who hears the job sucking sound from unbalanced trade agreements.


42 posted on 05/12/2012 9:32:37 AM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: RWGinger

Your title is really misleading.
You lump all republicans together for what one Gov said
and even further you lumped all unemployed with the ‘ able bodied” the Gov referenced.


You are right.
During the slump in the early 70s i met quite a few people from the eastern states who had lost their jobs and was out here in the west looking for work.

In Arizona there were lots of labor and farm jobs which i had worked at myself, but not many office jobs.

I told 2 or three people ( who sure looked able to me ) about where they could go to work the next day, they just looked down their nose at me, i could not help but thinking, to hell with them.


43 posted on 05/12/2012 9:34:30 AM PDT by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Conservatism IS Compassion!


44 posted on 05/12/2012 9:35:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Let us agree that government should not allow long-term welfare dependency. But should we deny govermment assistance to the temporarily needy?


I think we all should try to help the temporary needy, but it should be local or state, the fed Government has no authority to give any one anything.

Congress can only lay taxes to pay its dept, but of course we know that the fed has been giving millions in grants for years to about any one who knows how to fill out a form of some kind.

If some louse wants to be taken care of by the tax payers all he has to do to get a grant is to get some kind of certificate through some organization that will say he or she is a scientist or some other label.

I would just like to study frog tracks down in the jungles of South America or Archeology out in some beautiful dessert.

But i didn,t get far enough in school to know how to fill out the dam forms.


45 posted on 05/12/2012 10:02:35 AM PDT by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: Williams

Finding a job is a full time job. If you’ve done all the searching you can, then the remaining time should be filled with exercising your talents to make a job. If you’ve exhausted that, then spend the remaining time learning, training and practicing to improve your skills.

This “paid 99 week vacation” stuff has got to stop.

They’ve devalued “underemployment” to $0 by paying people to do nothing but a cursory wink-and-a-nod “search”. People should be working what they can and creating value, not loafing and consuming it.


46 posted on 05/12/2012 10:07:05 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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Finding a job is a full time job.

It's also easier to find a job when you already have one......bail out at the first sign of trouble, don't wait until the bitter end.

47 posted on 05/12/2012 10:08:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

“Have Republicans No Sympathy For the Jobless? “

“I expected more compassion from Gov. LePage, a professed Christian.”

BS. Sympathy is free. These folks don’t want sympathy, they want somebody elses money because, for whatever reason, they cannot make any of their own.

Let’s just baseline the discussion there. I have plenty of sympathy for the unemployed. Even when I’ve been unemployed myself, like I technically am right now.

I’ve never filed for unemployment, I’ve never whined about it, I’ve never expected anybody else to give me their money. I just took work where I could find it - and never stopped looking.

So, unemployed folks - why do you think you deserve other people’s money? You don’t deserve it, is the answer.

It doesn’t matter why you can’t work or whether you can or not. You either pay your way or you don’t - no excuses needed or accepted. You either do or you don’t.

Now, back to work on that proposal - for, you know, actual work that I’m hoping to get paid to do by someone who needs something done.


48 posted on 05/12/2012 10:23:39 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: ravenwolf

In this compassionate conservative world, the really rich and the really poor have the same lifestyle. No work, drugs, free money, illegitimate kids etc.


49 posted on 05/12/2012 10:39:49 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Williams
Politically indelicate, but I know tons of people who avoided taking a job until their unemployment ran out. Hear it all the time.

I was unemployed for four months, worked two jobs, lost those and am now unemployed for almost seven months. I was given a large severance check when I was laid off after 19-1/2 years and do receive unemployment.

While I have interviewed several times and would have gladly taken those positions, I find that I have difficulty being considered because of my age (55), the pay rate I once made and the technology I specialized in is now considered "legacy" (a nice word for "outdated").

Because of my resources, I can be a little choosy with job openings but the truth is I've yet to be considered for a job that paid well below what I used to make. It's assumed I won't take them or will flee as soon as something better comes along.

So, I'm unemployed even though I would like to work but I can't take "little" jobs to get off unemployment because a) it would mean less money than what I make on unemployment and b) no wants to hire me for those jobs anyway.

I'm not too proud to go work at a convenience store or a customer service job but they won't hire people with IT skills for those jobs when they can hire someone with half the education and probably retain them longer than they would me.

It's a big "catch 22" so I am praying that the right position will open up and that the Lord will place me there. It's really the only thing I can do.

50 posted on 05/12/2012 10:59:14 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Evil never reveals the truth until it's too late to flee.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

“as a compassionate conservative, I don’t have a problem helping the temporarily needy.”

Exactly. And such a non-sequitur.

No Republican is against individuals helping others. In fact, Republicans give far more to the needy (of all kinds) than Democrats. To suggest otherwise is projection, a psychological disorder.

The premise of the lead post was of a “have you stopped beating your wife?” nature. The title is loaded with all kinds of baggage, equating “help” with “supports compulsory stealing from Peter to pay Paul”.

Fact is, legislation has so screwed up the act of assisting others that “will you help” is best met with “yes, and to do so we must first we must dismantle the welfare system and supporting oppressive regulation”. Compassionate Conservativism cannot thrive until we have dismantled the destructive laws devaluing, unto prohibiting, work via minimum wage, prolonged unemployment payments, and regulations making even mundane employment terribly expensive to create, and making living less than luxuriously nigh unto criminal.

Don’t equate “compassionate conservatism” with “supports the Leftist welfare state”.


51 posted on 05/12/2012 11:06:24 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
if you actually read my post, you would have seen that I laid blame for the unemployment crisis squarely at the feet of Obama and the Democrats...

In a matter of speaking, perhaps. I didn't exactly see it that way. You mention the failed stimulus but the real focus of your statement is to attack governor LePage specifically, and Republicans en masse (you really paint with a broad brush there...). I consider that hardly a condemnation of democrat policy.

Whatever. I stand by my remarks.

52 posted on 05/12/2012 12:28:56 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I find blog pimping objectionable when the blogger posts a thread but seldom, or never, joins the debate. Much of what we have here comes from blogs. We’d have far less to talk about without them. But the blogger should have the courtesy to add to the debate. That’s where I jump ship.

As for the thought process, you’re right on that. I just replied to him saying he paints with a broad brush, blaming a single statement by one Republican governor on Republicans in general. That is not a well thought out position, IMO.


53 posted on 05/12/2012 12:33:39 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: bcsco

10-4, I hear you. And he did respond to me once. But I get where you’re coming from and respect your opinion.


54 posted on 05/12/2012 12:41:41 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Yes, he responded to me as well. Yet I still disagree with his broad criticisms. Have a great weekend...


55 posted on 05/12/2012 12:59:20 PM PDT by bcsco
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