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Report: Florida Investigating Potential Voting by Thousands of Non-Citizens
Stand With Arizona ^ | 05-09-2012 | John Hill

Posted on 05/09/2012 1:20:33 PM PDT by montag813

Miami Investigates Potential Voting by Non-Citizens

by John Hill
Stand With Arizona

As most Americans know, Florida is a state where a small number of votes can make a huge difference. After all, the 2000 presidential election was decided by just over 500 votes. So when there is evidence of potential voter fraud, officials better take it seriously.

But they rarely have. Stand With Arizona, along with FAIR, have urged Florida to check on evidence of potential illegal alien voters for over a year with no action taken. That is, until a Tampa NBC affiliate uncovered shocking evidence of illegal aliens who voted in multiple elections - a story we reported on last month - a post on this website which was read by over 60,000 people.

As is usually the case, the illegals registered using the fraud machine, the "Motor Voter Act" (1993) passed under Clinton, which required only that a person claim citizenship to register - a clear design to enable voter fraud from coast-to-coast. States have recently cracked down on this loophole, but the damage has been done, with untold hundreds of thousands of unlawfully registered "voters" across the nation.

Once the Tampa NBC story broke, SWA was told that Gov. Rick Scott put huge pressure on Florida cities and counties to crack down on voter registration fraud, especially by foreign nationals.

In the first subsequent investigation being reported, Miami-Dade County officials are checking the citizenship of thousands of registered voters. The Miami CBS affiliate has learned that 2,000 of those potential non-citizen voters are registered in Miami-Dade County.

“These are the people that we have to notify by mail that we have a reason to believe that they’re a non-citizen,” said Christina White, Deputy Supervisor of Elections.

We are pleased Miami is finally investigating this outrage - even if they had to be compelled by the Governor to do so. But this is just a drop in the bucket. If they know about 2,000, you can be sure there are 20,000 they don't know about, and the entire state, and every state, must commit major resources to uncover illegal voter registrations - a FELONY - before the November elections.

Here is the video of the CBS2 report...

EXCERPT...READ THE REST OF ARTICLE HERE


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KEYWORDS: aliens; citizen; dade; election; fair; foreign; fraud; illegals; immigration; johnhill; miami; motorvoter; registration; rickscott; standwitharizonacom; voter

1 posted on 05/09/2012 1:20:41 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Ya’ think?


2 posted on 05/09/2012 1:24:55 PM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: montag813

Would be great if they did, but don’t hold your breath until it happens, Too many lying, no good, self serving,*&%#!@#$%%&^*&*, politicians in the way!


3 posted on 05/09/2012 1:29:18 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: WellyP

I think Democrats have relied on fraudulent voters for years.

There can be no other reason for them to cry so hard about somone showing an ID card to vote.

They know it, and we know it.


4 posted on 05/09/2012 1:30:44 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: montag813

get it out into the open now, so it will be easier to marginalize when it counts.


5 posted on 05/09/2012 1:32:18 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: montag813
I saw this You-Tube video. The most shocking part wasn't that this illegal voting was going on, but that the aliens were so brazen in defending their "rights" to do it as if they'd done nothing wrong.

The initial batch were uncovred from people who declined to serve on juries because they were not citizens. Yet those same people saw nothing wrong with voting themselves more stuff from their host country.

6 posted on 05/09/2012 1:36:27 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: montag813

And I know which party the voted FOR.

It’s like I’m a mind reader or something!


7 posted on 05/09/2012 1:38:54 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: montag813

The Dems keep telling us that voter fraud is a myth...not happening...


8 posted on 05/09/2012 1:41:01 PM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: mongo141

I feel pretty good about it in Michigan these days. We elected a top notch secretary of state in 2010. She takes voter fraud seriously since she was a target of ACORN going back at least to 06 when she was a county commissioner and had some 30,000 fraudulent registrations.


9 posted on 05/09/2012 2:10:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: montag813

People who commit voter fraud should be marked so that they are known to all. A brand on their faces. Either that or put them to death. Especially if they come here illegally and do so.


10 posted on 05/09/2012 2:11:38 PM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Jack Burton007
I like how you think. Deportation is not enough of a deterrent. Maybe if we put a few of them against the wall they will take notice.
11 posted on 05/09/2012 2:36:09 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Venturer

One of the ways the dems have had Photo I.D. laws overturned has been a clever conjunction of the “disparate impact” nonsense with a neat statistical trick.

“Disparate impact” rears its ugly head every time statistics show that one group (i.e., blacks) is disadvantaged proportionally more than another (i.e., whites or, perhaps, Asians.) For instance—when a firefighter’s promotion test had whites performing better than blacks, the municipality was sued due to the disparate impact the test had on the aggrieved minority. (No lawsuit has been filed on the disparate impact that superior basketball skills has foisted on the 88% of the population—whites—that only comprise about 15% of the NBA, but I digress.)

Anyway—back to voting, and the statistical trick that was used. I’m rounding the numbers for simplicity, but the concept is easily understood:

Suppose that there are 1 million white voters and 1 million black voters in a particular state. Suppose that, of the 1 million white voters, 999,999 have picture IDs. Suppose that, of the million black voters, “only” 999,998 have picture IDs. To those of us with some schooling (I have a BS in Math, among other things) it would seem that, statistically, blacks are just about as likely as whites to own a photo ID. But, wait! Let’s flip the numbers to the converse. Per million voters—1 white DOES NOT have the photo ID. (See where this is headed?) Yet, per million voters—2 blacks DO NOT have the photo ID.
Conclusion: BLACKS ARE TWICE AS LIKELY AS WHITES TO LACK A PHOTO ID.

This analysis, as I said, simplifies the numbers, but the approach is identical to that taken by those who got at least one state law revoked. The fact that Photo IDs are easy to get, would be paid for by the state, and even done at the voters’ home were all deemed to be irrelevant. Disparate impact ruled again.


12 posted on 05/09/2012 2:50:11 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Don't let Julia fool ya. Socialism doesn't work.)
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To: Jack Burton007

“People who commit voter fraud should be marked so that they are known to all. A brand on their faces. Either that or put them to death. Especially if they come here illegally and do so.”

I also think that this crime, and it IS a crime, is ridiculously under-prosecuted and unpunished. I think a minimum of 10 years is reasonable. No parole.


13 posted on 05/09/2012 3:02:03 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: montag813; dragnet2; wardaddy; raybbr; Travis McGee

“The Miami CBS affiliate has learned that 2,000 of those potential non-citizen voters are registered in Miami-Dade County.

“These are the people that we have to notify by mail that we have a reason to believe that they’re a non-citizen,” said Christina White, Deputy Supervisor of Elections.

We are pleased Miami is finally investigating this outrage - even if they had to be compelled by the Governor to do so. But this is just a drop in the bucket. If they know about 2,000, you can be sure there are 20,000 they don’t know about, and the entire state, and every state, must commit major resources to uncover illegal voter registrations - a FELONY - before the November elections. “

I wonder what the open border apologists of Free Republic think now about illegal alien foreign nationals determining our elections......they vote ‘conservative’ don’t ya know!
WOW!


14 posted on 05/09/2012 3:11:51 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
“The Miami CBS affiliate has learned that 2,000 of those potential non-citizen voters are registered in Miami-Dade County.


15 posted on 05/09/2012 3:13:24 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: montag813

Nelson (our dem senator) sent me an email months ago stating that he was working hard to stop the outrage of all these unqualified voters from being removed from voting roles.

I remember back when Bush won in 2000. Election night Gore was about 16000 behind. A friend in the GOP told me by the morning Dems would have worked up enough voter fraud to bring Gore close. I didn’t believe it. She told me, you don’t know how they work. All over FL they have all those ballots hidden in closets, ready to be pulled out in case of need. By the am they will have “caught up”. And they did - but not quite enough.

But if the GOP had not stopped the Broward recount by 3 Dems behind a closed door, they would have. Because that’s the way the Dems work. It’s all fraud, bolstered by the MSM. And everyone in the upper echelons knows it, but they will NEVER admit it in public.


16 posted on 05/09/2012 3:14:23 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
'And I know which party they voted FOR. It’s like I’m a mind reader or something!'

bwhaaha good one LOS....

Strangely enough it's the very same party that condemns that nasty NASTY VOTER ID. idee....did yer mind read that to? My mind prob. ain't as good as yours but THAT DID occur to my mind...and to tell ya da trudt it wasn't hard to connect the 2 ..
17 posted on 05/09/2012 3:51:45 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: montag813; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

18 posted on 05/09/2012 4:12:58 PM PDT by HiJinx (A Higher Power is still just a false god.)
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To: AuntB; montag813; wardaddy; raybbr; Travis McGee
Ya tell other Americans their electoral process has been completely undermined and compromised, and many gawk into space as if they haven't a clue.

And unfortunately, half the population has no clue.

Thanks to people like Bush, and the U.S. Gov, who made American citizenship all but pointless.

19 posted on 05/09/2012 5:06:47 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: montag813

Using the existing Social Security identity verification system, every registrar should be required to verify the citizenship status of every voter registered in their precincts. Any that don’t pass can be given a chance to prove otherwise (an official certified birth certificate will do). Failure to properly screen and purge non-citizens by the registrar should be a felony, with serious punishment.

Registration fraud seems like an easy problem to fix — but requires out-maneuvering the Dems and their hired media auxiliary.


20 posted on 05/09/2012 5:09:05 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Chewbarkah
Registration fraud seems like an easy problem to fix

Say the same for our borders. The problem is, as usual, the government does not want it fixed, and the reason why our electoral process has been totally undermined and compromised.

Divide the united.

This is all part of plan.

21 posted on 05/09/2012 5:16:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: montag813

I’m Shocked. Absolutely shocked!


22 posted on 05/09/2012 5:57:52 PM PDT by jayrunner
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Your Post is excellent, and right on the money.


23 posted on 05/09/2012 6:21:19 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Good points about blacks and whites.

However, the bigger issue is the U.S. government rolled out the red carpet for many millions from south of the border. We're talking upwards of 30 million in this country illegally. Don't buy the 12 million figure government has been using for 20+ years now. It's absolute bull cheet.

A good percentage of the millions of illegals vote and commit other fraud on a large scale routine basis.

Many are told who to vote for by professional insurgents who want to turn this country on it's head, and undermine this country, it's history and it's future.

Trust me, there are those among us, including the desire of the U.S. government, the U.N., to divide the once united, for numerous obvious reasons.

24 posted on 05/09/2012 6:37:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Venturer

Thanks.


25 posted on 05/09/2012 7:20:09 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Don't let Julia fool ya. Socialism doesn't work.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
"Per million voters—1 white DOES NOT have the photo ID. (See where this is headed?) Yet, per million voters—2 blacks DO NOT have the photo ID. Conclusion: BLACKS ARE TWICE AS LIKELY AS WHITES TO LACK A PHOTO ID."

This is baloney. The total number must be included to make any sense, legally. No court would accept this interpretation. In fact, when such a percentage as 99.9998% of voters have photo I.D., the term "likely" cannot be applied at all unless it's talking about those who have I.D.'s. One could say that weather conditions prohibit voter participation to a much higher percentage than this sample does yet no one is challenging it and demanding that elections only be allowed when 100 percent of the nation is perfect, weather-wise.

26 posted on 05/09/2012 7:44:28 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: montag813; GladesGuru
This illegal foreigner vote problem is just one of Florida, The Nation's All-Around Dumbest State's, vote problems.

Equal to this vote travesty, if not greater, is the problem of Florida's population of Noo Yawkaz, Noo Joisey Peeple, Michiganders, etc. who are still registered Up North, vote there by absentee ballots, and are also registered in Florida. These old timers are almost unanimously Democrats and screw up Southeastern Florida (Miami, etc.) by a huge number.

So, how many votes do these old time Democrats (instantly recognizable because they are the pale-legged ones with varicose veins wearing floppy shorts, sandals, and black socks, driving 15-20 year-old Cadillacs as they snooze at traffic lights) actually cast? O, maybe 50-85,000+ on the East Coast, mercifully fewer on the West.

The chad-hanging bastards.

27 posted on 05/09/2012 8:33:20 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Uncle Sham
As I said in my earlier post, I simplified the numbers to make the example more readily understandable, and I won't argue with you that I probably oversimplified it.

Here is a recent ACLU offering regarding voters in Milwaukee that demonstrates the actual methodology, including some more realistic numbers. Scroll down to Page 18 and you will see that their survey indicated that 7.26% of Whites lack a photo i.d., while the number for Blacks is 13.18%, and 14.94% for Hispanics.

They then do some quick division--13.18/7.26, and 14.94/7.26 to conclude that Blacks are 182% more likely than Whites to lack a photo i.d. , and Hispanics are 206% more likely.

These percentage differentials are very large, but, if looked at in the opposite direction, we see some very different results. That is, insofar as those who already have the photo i.d., the numbers are 92.74% for Whites, 86.82% for Blacks, and 85.06% for Hispanics. While clearly there are some disparities, doing the division here shows that Blacks are 86.82/92.74 = 93.6% as likely to have a photo i.d. as Whites. That sounds an awful lot different than stating that Blacks are 182% more likely to LACK a photo id than Whites. Similarly, Hispanics are 85.06/92.74 = 91.7% as likely as Whites to possess the required i.d., which sounds a great deal more equal than the 206% figure of Hispanics lacking the id relative to Whites.

That is not to say that if one group is only about 90% as likely to have an i.d. than another that a judge would rule that the difference is relatively minor. But, when compared to one group being approximately twice as likely to be impacted due to the lack of said i.d., the significance is greatly magnified.

28 posted on 05/09/2012 8:56:36 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Don't let Julia fool ya. Socialism doesn't work.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

It’s not really fair to blame the Snow Bird voters for voting in both states. If the FloriDUH pubbies had any ability to (politically speaking) fog a mirror, they would have gotten toggether with other Pubbies across America and run computer comparisons for the US voter records. Just check for same names, spouse names, etc.

Voter fraud is a felony. Perhaps if a bounty was paid, more would be found. Hello, Koch Brothers! Pick up the telephone, opportunity is calling.


29 posted on 05/10/2012 2:45:10 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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