Iranian naval admiral: ‘If needed, we can move to within three miles of New York’

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[Mark17]

Iranian naval admiral: ‘If needed, we can move to within three miles of New York’

First, there was Baghdad Bob. What do we call this guy, Teheran Tom?

[BenLurkin]

[ClearCase_guy]

Ya know, my initial comment (at #15) mentioned "balloon" exactly once. And it also mentioned "missile" exactly once. You latched on to the "balloon" and beat it to death. Now you are saying that Iran has missiles and that Iran could adapt these to a naval platform.

Gee, maybe that's a lot like what I was saying at #15. You COULD have responded "I think your balloon comment is harebrained, but you may have a point about the missile". Nut "Noooooooooooooooo". You had to repeatedly tell me that I needed to educate myself.

I say (again) I'm concerned about Iran, and nukes, and their statement that they can get darn close to NYC. That's pretty much all I've been trying to say. You either have concerns about that, or you don't.

[Windflier]

Compared to Barry Soetoro Hussein, even Bill Clinton in a high school band uniform looks sharp.

Yeah, Bill Clinton blew a sax and Barry Soetoro blows a .... a, well, you know.

[Monty22002]

I was just correcting you. You specifically stated “Even advanced Nuclear warheads weigh well over a ton” which is incorrect.

[Gandalf_The_Gray]

We have a 3 mile limit and a 12 mile limit. What’s the difference between the two?

9 miles? (I couldn't help myself...)

Regards,
GtG

[little jeremiah]

Seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wbBWju8HPG4

Rumors of War III

I’m almost done watching it, and I never watch videos. It’s very important to watch.

[Gandalf_The_Gray]

2. Balloons don't get to the altitudes necessary for an EMP to be generated which are well above the stratosphere.

That may be correct for nuclear devices but EMP generators have been demonstrated at ground level using conventional explosives, magnets, and copper wire. EMP is phenomenon not limited to nuclear devices.

Respects,
GtG

[Lurker]

9 miles. What do I win?

[Wizdum]

We'll take hull shots, then sink your ass. Bank on it.

[Nowhere Man]

Yeah, Bill Clinton blew a sax and Barry Soetoro blows a .... a, well, you know.

I'll keep it clean but to the point, Barry Soetoro Hussein blows goats.

[Wizdum]

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[tomkat]

[Nowhere Man]

I think EMP is too overrated and we tend to turn it into something out of a 1970's era Irwin Allen disaster movie. If we got hit with EMP, most cars, even ones made post 1985 will start, most transistor radios will till work and even many electronic devices will survive. The real MacGuffin is the damage to our power generating and distribution system, even then, not all of it will be damaged, you might see "islanding" here and here, but since we all depend on it, it sucks to be you if you're power is out for a long time. Again, your car will still run, there is a 90/95 percent chance but unless you have a generator, a 12 volt pump or a hand pump, lotsa luck in getting fuel for it.

EMP is more like a 500 lbs gorilla than an 800 lbs one, but in some way, it can be overcome, albeit with some difficulty. As an amateur radio operator, this interests me a lot.

[OneLoyalAmerican]

Greetings Nowhere Man, et al:

On one hand, MILSPEC EMP specifications are likely written by DOD professionals to unimaginable CYA standards. On the other hand, consumer device specifications are written by electrical engineers complying with both FCC electromagnetic noise standards and a more important protection of the consumer brand name intergity.

EMP is electromagnetic noise. My understanding of EMP vulnerablity is an inadequately shielded electronic device may fuse open and/or closed unexpectedly from the sudden induced flow of electrons. So I often wondered if the simple metal electric cabinets which the grid switchgear protection devices actually reside within are adequate EMP protection.

In many cases, sloppy install jobs and/or unprofessional repairs render the electromagnetic protection shield non-functionable. Which may explain an occasional electric grid failure during a solar flare event.

An EMP will necessarily trip overvoltage/undervoltage and overcurrent protection relays plus lockout relays grid wide. Just as the transmission line failure caused in summer 2003; a grid reset and restart will take some time.

This EMP talk makes me believe another crony-capitalist company, such as GE, is only trying to hyperpanic sell the USA upon unnecessary EMP protection. Yeah, all this “green energy” propaganda “for the children” makes me very skeptical.

Cheers,
OLA

[OneLoyalAmerican]

Greetings sean327:

Everything electrical/electronic will be rendered useless.

Everything? Kindly provide a source for that information.

Cheers,
OLA

[Former War Criminal]

as someone said, don;t need a weather balloon just a container ship or big a supertanker sitting off singapore and use it to launch small submersibles like the drug cartels are using.

as a student of naval warfare i have always wondered why navies build what they build. any supertanker could be easliy converted to helicpter operations or ssm platforms given how easy it is with modules. armor up the superstructure and engine area which, being larger, tends to attract asm’s. a hull that size can take numerous hits and stay afloat. cheap , expendable, and huge stike capability.

I'd love to read your treatise on capital ships.

/s

[Yorlik803]

Yep...Obama aint no Reagan...he might allow them to dock in New York

[Quickgun]

What would keep them from shipping a weapon directly into the harbor on a container ship that originated in a friendly country? I know we are supposed to have ways to find such weapons after they are here, but that would be too late. I don’t know what safeguards are in place to prevent this, Just asking.I see shipping containers sitting on trucks and trains everywhere here, if it is like that in other places in the world, a truck and a forklift would be all that would be needed to substitute a container, or add one.

[dinodino]

1. Yes, it is impossible to make a weather balloon lift a ton of payload.

2. Yes, an EMP pulse weapon cannot be effectively discharged at ground level.

The EMP thing is hyperbole. Hundreds of nukes have been tested above-ground and somehow the Soviet and American grids survived. Much ado about nothing, IMHO.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Sub-Driver.

[elcid1970]

“Iranian naval admiral”

Like, uh, what other kind of admiral is there?

Land Admiral? Admiral in the Swiss Navy?

There really was a Hungarian Admiral (Horthy) but he belonged to the Austro-Hungarian imperial navy.

Anyway..... just more Iranian bloviating, except that the moron in the WH is emboldening them more & more. That’s the real danger.

[jonascord]

I'm not necessarily disputing, but it has taken 70 years of constant testing and development to shrink an atomic delivery package down to those dimensions, and be reasonably sure that, when the button is pushed, there isn't just a blue glow and a violently radioactive puddle of melted plutonium. Or worse, a loud bang and bits of shattered reactive mass all over the place.

I'm not saying they can't do it, but this is the same country that accused us of sending them faulty cars, because one flipped over and a 7th century engineer noticed that there was no separate chassis. (Unibody construction having been missed.)

[Volunteer]

You know, if we could use their ships as affordable studio apartments we might just have a use for Iran.

[Sirius Lee]

Awesome! It’s nice for Iran to donate material for an artificial reef 3 miles out. This will be good for fishing. And Iranian sailors probably don’t taste all that much different to crabs than the mob snitches they normally dine upon.

[Eleutheria5]

I’m sure they can. And I’m sure that if needed, they can provide minerals and nutrients for little fishies swimming three miles off shore from New York.

[Eleutheria5]

Even Obama has to stop short of outright treason, and can’t prove himself such a coward that he loses reelection or his party loses midterms.

[Eleutheria5]

They invaded. They got mugged. They kept telling those kids to turn the radio down. They couldn’t find a cab. They got lost on the subway. They got ripped off at three-card monty. Somebody told them to rendezvous at the Blue Oyster. They stole some souveniers from a Korean vendor and got kicked in the face. They fled.

[RitaOK]

Priceless! That graphic alone could win the election without a word spoken.

Perfect for the ROMNEY socialist camp, since he offers nothing verbal that he hasn’t flipped on, and he’s got that socialist record of his, so therefore he is dead in the water every time he opens his mouth, but for a campaign based entirely on “rah rah”, for the useful idiots among us.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

[Spktyr]

Build them? No need. Iran probably has one or more ex-Soviet nukes, one of the not small number that were ‘lost’ after the Soviet empire collapsed.

[Spktyr]

Back when we were testing above ground, most stuff was vacuum-tube based. Vacuum tube gear is pretty much impervious to EMP. Transistorized gear and computer gear, not so much.

[PMAS]

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[sean327]

Anything that hasn’t been EMP/EMI hardened will be fryed. I can’t get into details, but I have been involved in EMP/EMI testing for DOD programs I have worked on. If it ain’t hardened it’s toast.

[Nowhere Man]

Also in the case of cars, even though they are run by computers, they are designed to run under rough conditions, heat, cold, high RF environment and so on so perhaps there is a way they can handle EMP as well. I’m into auto parts so I generally know what car parts go through.

[SunkenCiv]

Knock me over with a feather, the Atlantic *is* at least three miles deep, so, he ain't lying. Thanks Sub-Driver.

[OneLoyalAmerican]

Greetings sean327:

Understand. Just looking for open source factual.

Cheers,
OLA

[Billthedrill]

Right. I'll get the surrender papers ready.

[sean327]

Not a problem. There is plenty of info out there that isn’t classified. Most of it explains the science behind EMP/EMI.
Many electronics text books go into good detail.

[definitelynotaliberal]

Very nice! Thanks for the laugh.

[Rebelbase]

A little known fact is that where the Mid-Atlantic Ridge crosses Iceland, it spews people instead of lava.

Mega large pic for detail.

[Rebelbase]

Iranian, U.S. naval admiral: ‘If needed, we can move to within three miles of New York downtown Terhan’

[SunkenCiv]

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