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SCOTUS to Uphold AZ Immigration Law? Obama must Remember Not Defending Border Led to Decl. of Indep.
Texas Conservative Republican News ^ | 4/26/12 | David Bellow

Posted on 04/26/2012 9:49:46 AM PDT by davidbellow

The Supreme Court of the United States appears likely to uphold some of the key provisions in the Arizona Immigration law. This comes on the heels of the SCOTUS signaling that they will likely be striking down Obamacare, specifically because of problems with the individual mandate. This would be a slap in the face to the Obama Administration and would add to the list of Obama's failed understanding of the Constitution and States Rights.

On protecting the Border, President Obama is forgetting his American history.

One of the main reasons listed in the US Declaration of Independence as reason for separation from Great Britian was because they were not protecting the Borders of the 13 US Colonies.

68% of Americans approve of the Arizona Immigration Law in a recent poll. Americans want the borders to be protected and immigration controlled instead of thousands of criminals coming over illegally into their communities.
And you were a College Professor Obama? Maybe you should try re-reading the Declaration of Independence and a little US History because your knowledge is getting a little rusty.

TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizonaimmigration; obama; supremecourt

1 posted on 04/26/2012 9:49:55 AM PDT by davidbellow
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To: davidbellow

From a purely selfish point of view, Sotomayor may realize she will (probably) way outlast Obama’s presidency, barring no premature departure from the world, and I wonder if she was thinking if she lets a president get away with bullying the court like Obama’s been doing, and further arguing with extremely lame arguments, that it may set a precedent and ultimately she will be facing a republican/conservative administration, expecting the same precedent ability.

Who wants a potentially long career on SCOTUS where POTUS rolls them over and uses them as a rubber stamp - liberal ally or conservative adversary? Precedent will be set and will be expected by future administrations.

Or is it really more that the Obama admin’s arguments are SO LAME that even she can’t lower herself to try to support them? As it would severely tarnish her profile as independent and just a non-thinking vote for Obama?

I suppose it could more likely be the latter.

2 posted on 04/26/2012 10:01:30 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It’d be cool if Sotomayor had some actual intellectual integrity.

3 posted on 04/26/2012 10:11:49 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Personally I think it would not be altruistic, it would be because she wouldn’t want history books and peoples’ opinions of her to be merely a shill for Obama. Totally self-interest in having a good opinion written of her w/r/t her being a Justice.

4 posted on 04/26/2012 10:16:40 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It is one of life’s ironies that the largest concentration of “mind numbed robots” is within the American Left. Your thesis on Sotomayor’s reasoning, and possible action on the court are based in rational thought and self interest.

My prediction is that at the end of the day, the Leftist votes on the court are going to line up and vote with Barry.

The authors of the Constitution were not worried about how they were going to impose their political agenda on the country. They were primarily concerned with how to PREVENT the other guy from cramming his/her political agenda down the throats of the country, without there being a very broad and deep consensus, established and maintained over time.

The brainless idiots typified by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid completely miss the point. Yeah, they have subverted the Constitution and imposed their will on the country with laws that should never have seen the light of day. But, they have crafted the tools for some future despot. Those tools might not only undo everything they have imposed, but would allow that despot to handle them just like Stalin handled his adversaries.

5 posted on 04/26/2012 10:19:06 AM PDT by RedElement
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To: Secret Agent Man
"Totally self-interest in having a good opinion written of her w/r/t her being a Justice."

It'd be tough to discern the difference.

6 posted on 04/26/2012 10:20:21 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
Anybody want to bet on how Sotomayor votes? I say she votes against the Constitution on this and Obamacare.
7 posted on 04/26/2012 10:50:57 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

I’m more than willing to be pleasantly surprised.

8 posted on 04/26/2012 11:01:41 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: RedElement

I just wish a conservative would have the guts to that...

9 posted on 04/26/2012 11:08:58 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: davidbellow
Borders? The Declaration does say "...... exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without..... " ~ but wait a minute here. The ONLY nation on Earth that "Bordered" any of the 14 Colonies was Spain!

I cannot help but note that Spain turned into a valued ally during the Revolution, so certainly the threat had not been from Spain, so who?

Let me suggest the enemy who might invade were the 4 Iroquois nations that in the end made war against the United States, or maybe their Shawnee adversaries.

Regarding that 14th Colony, many imagine that England had clear title to the Ohio Valley having won that territory in the French and Indian War. That territory, also being claimed in part by Virginia, had never actually been deeded over to France by Spain in the Treaty of London (1604), nor through later codicils, so England could not have acquired it from France ~ indeed, Nouvelle Canada, according to the French Cartographer D'Isles extended no further South than the St. Joseph River, and specifically along 42 degrees between Lake Erie and Lake Michigan.

The complaint was that England had extended the Quebec Acts on land the colonies claimed that actually had never before been under French rules (such as were part of the Quebec Acts) ~ notwithstanding the existence of such French colonial outposts as Vincinnes and Terre Haute ~ which were probably there at the sufferance of the local Spanish colonial magistrate at the closest La Villa Real ~ located somewhere in East Central "modern' Indiana.

Not to suggest that some of the colonies were engaged in foreign intrigue outside of the knowledge of the Crown, but the Declaration itself suggests strongly that some of them had sealed some deals with Spain!

Regarding their concern for borders, Connecticut and Massachusetts continued to move their border back and forth for the next 50 years, and South Carolina and North Carolina never bothered to find a border until Tennessee (Not a state until well after the Revolution) pressed the issue (in I believe the 1830s). They also found and surveyed their border with Georgia at roughly the same time.

Eventually the US obtained both British and Spanish West Florida, as well as Louisiana East of the Mississippi. Later, when Napoleon conquered Spain he sold their Louisiana colony to the US (albeit with borders extended far and away beyond what any Spaniard had ever imagined ~ or surveyed).

Now, back to the issue of the US being initially very concerned with borders ~ I think not! This was a big place ~ immense ~ and although surveys were required to protect land titles, there were no foreign enemies lurking here and there ready to pour in over the borders!

Even today we have only two other nations on our land borders!

10 posted on 04/26/2012 11:15:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Venturer
Sotomayor will vote FOR state's enforcing federal laws ~ extending the concept way beyond traditional considerations.

Remember, she's a New Yorker and they have their special concerns.

One of the concerns is called The Port Of New York Authority. She will do everything she can to protect that critter.

11 posted on 04/26/2012 11:20:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: davidbellow

thanks moderator!

14 posted on 04/27/2012 7:23:24 AM PDT by davidbellow
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