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Santorum: "I Was Basically Pro-Choice All My Life, Until I Ran for Congress" (1995)
Philadelphia Magazine ^ | December 1995 | Eric Konigsberg

Posted on 03/17/2012 11:01:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

IN THE SUMMER OF 1989, Rick Santorum and a fellow associate at the Pittsburgh law firm of Kirkpatrick and Lockhart left work to drive to Three Rivers Stadium for the firm's annual softball game. Sitting behind the wheel, Santorum popped in a tape, and on came the reedy voice of a man lecturing as if to a classroom.

“Listen,” Santorum said. “Newt Gingrich.”

“Who the hell is Newt Gingrich?” the co-worker asked.

Santorum explained that Gingrich was a congressman from Georgia, and that he was the guy to listen to if you were considering a future in politics. “At the time,” says the co-worker, “I had no idea that was something Rick was interested in.” As it turned out, Santorum was already telling people he was running for Congress in the upcoming election. The tape was something he had ordered from GOPAC, Gingrich's political action committee, full of do-it-yourself campaign tips for aspiring candidates.

In recent years, of course, Gingrich's tutelage of Santorum has taken on a much more direct nature. Last September, Santorum, at 37 a Republican U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, managed the Senate floor debate as it passed its welfare bill, all the while working closely with Gingrich, now speaker of the House of Representatives and the country's most powerful Republican. Santorum, who prior to his election to the Senate last year served two terms in the House with Gingrich, is in fact known on Capitol Hill as Gingrich's protégé and his point man in the Senate. The two meet weekly for early-morning swims at the House gym.

Much of Santorum's record, thus far, has been a series of tantrums. More than a dozen times in his first few months in the Senate, Santorum took to the floor to trash Bill Clinton for not drafting a balanced-budget proposal...

(Excerpt) Read more at phillymag.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 0percentnaralrating; abortion; congress; gingrich; newt; pennsylvania; prochoice; prolife; santorum
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1 posted on 03/17/2012 11:01:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
More than a dozen times in his first few months in the Senate, Santorum took to the floor to trash Bill Clinton for not drafting a balanced-budget proposal

So, in his first years, he was already fighting the spending when he could. Nice to know.

2 posted on 03/17/2012 11:04:05 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ansel12; RitaOK

ansel12 found his campaign ads.


3 posted on 03/17/2012 11:05:00 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Ingtar

Just like Wrong Paul: Talk, talk, talk and no results, unlike Speaker Gingrich...


4 posted on 03/17/2012 11:08:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; STARWISE

But of course, he’s been Catholic all his life.


5 posted on 03/17/2012 11:08:10 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Ingtar

Looks like Newt thought highly of young Rick. Good to know.


6 posted on 03/17/2012 11:09:40 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: onyx

Hasn’t the Catholic Church been anti-abortion since the Apostle Peter was in charge?


7 posted on 03/17/2012 11:10:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“a series of tantrums”

That’s where I stopped reading. Whatever follows is garbage and lies, guaranteed.


8 posted on 03/17/2012 11:10:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rick Santorum: "I Was Basically Pro-Choice All My Life, Until I Ran for Congress"

facepalm Pictures, Images and Photos

9 posted on 03/17/2012 11:12:04 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Can you people back this up past "Philly Dot Com"? I am curious why you kids are hell bent to destroy Rick without any evidence? Looks like you kids are on the wrong side of things.

GO RICK!!!

10 posted on 03/17/2012 11:12:40 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know about abortions in those days, but the Church has been pro-life all of my life and I’m a little older than Santorum.


11 posted on 03/17/2012 11:14:18 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

[ Just like Wrong Paul: Talk, talk, talk and no results, unlike Speaker Gingrich... ]

1996 PROVED Newt got results, Romney got Romney Care, Paul didn’t get shit done, and Santorum got a few dribs and dabs here and there done....

Newt headed the 1996 conservative revolution in the middle of hostile times/territory, got shafted by moderates in his party and was eventually exonerated it is time for his comeback as POTUS and herald in the Conservative revolution of 2012.


12 posted on 03/17/2012 11:17:38 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Lazlo in PA

“Kids?” What are you, 90? It’s not “Philly.com” it’s Philadelphia Magazine, which has been around since 1967.


13 posted on 03/17/2012 11:19:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: caww

caww, so you don’t miss this 7 page article.


14 posted on 03/17/2012 11:20:58 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can we trust who he would put on the Supreme Court?


15 posted on 03/17/2012 11:22:54 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Does anyone believe that a man that openly opposes contraception in Presidential race isn't sincere on social issues?

This story is 17 years old. People change in 17 years.

16 posted on 03/17/2012 11:23:31 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Philly .com is a sh#t mag brother. I live here.


17 posted on 03/17/2012 11:23:33 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: onyx

Thanks...going there now.


18 posted on 03/17/2012 11:24:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Actions speak louder than allegations of words that might have been spoken 20 years ago.

Senator Santorum's voting record and legislative history back up his statements. He voted in favor of the Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act, in favor of the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, in favor of the Partial Birth Abortion Ban in 1995, 1997, and 2000, and against resolutions supporting Roe vs Wade. As well as voting in favor of this legislation, Senator Santorum co-sponsored almost all of them.

Source

19 posted on 03/17/2012 11:26:14 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NhqN0KcWAE


20 posted on 03/17/2012 11:28:41 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Can we trust who he would put on the Supreme Court?

More than any other candidate running. A man that won't run away from defending his beliefs on contraception isn't going to lie about his position on abortion.

This the sort of idiocy that has been flung at every Romney challenger and has ended up paving the way for him to be the nominee. It's sickening.

21 posted on 03/17/2012 11:30:12 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I belong to the stupid party. I wish I could afford the luxury of voting none of the above in this primary.


22 posted on 03/17/2012 11:33:42 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Ingtar; Lancey Howard; NavVet

This is unadulterated garbage, Rats poison taken from sources not quite dissimilar from MoveOn, Huff PO and other anti-Santorum sites funded by Romney and his hit teams. If Santorum s pro-abortion, then for heaven’s sake go to the Congressional Record and find a speech, a statement, or even a (mis)statement to his effect. But not post this kind of hit piece trash at a time when on a shoe-string budget he’s beaten Romney in key states, deep-sixed Gingrich’s “southern strategy” and is now within striking distance of creating a major upset in IL and taking Romney down.


23 posted on 03/17/2012 11:52:10 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: NavVet; Lancey Howard; Ingtar

Rick by his own quotes is the new flim flam man. What a resume.

Look into Rick on days of course when he is not campaigning and it’s all hollow, and what isn’t hollow is simply theater. That means it’s a campaign day. (For the people don’t cha know.) (The conservative ones.)

It just took the Philadelphia article seven pages to say what we have been saying in single posted comments from the first time he tried to be Bachmann and long before.


24 posted on 03/17/2012 11:52:41 PM PDT by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting article 2ndDV. Thanks for posting.


25 posted on 03/17/2012 11:57:49 PM PDT by berdie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Beating up on Lawyer Ricky is a waste of time given the fact the electorate is so emotions and feelings oriented that they elected Barry.

Lawyer Ricky worked his entire life to cultivate the same mindset and ultimately the same "flexible" values as the other lawyers in the Senate so that's what will come out sooner or later. Today, he's solidly for what Little Ricky says he deeply believes. Today, he may even deeply believe what he says he believes. Once he's actually the candidate, though, well then he has to concern himself with, "all the people" because if elected, he'll have to represent, "all the people".

Lawyer Ricky will do whatever the polls and strategists say Lawyer Ricky should do in order first to get the nomination (or be the VP which is what I think his goal is) and second, to win the election if he is the nominee. People have no problem supporting and voting for those who went to law school to become professional chameleons then whine "their candidate" changing tunes once they're in office.

Sooner or later people need to wake up and stop pretending they're shocked that the professional prostitute they supported acts just like a prostitute once they're in office.

JMHO

26 posted on 03/17/2012 11:57:53 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: Steelfish

Wow! Milt has a time machine and went back to 1995 to plant an article against Ricky? Impressive! Maybe he could get you an earlier “born on” date at FR so we’ll take you a little more seriously. Can’t hurt to ask!


27 posted on 03/17/2012 11:58:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Rashputin

Of the three left, which one doesn’t fit that description. Newt, the big government, pro-amnesty, Nancy Pelosi loving, ACORN endorsing, influence peddler certainly seems to have flexible convictions..


28 posted on 03/18/2012 12:05:49 AM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: NavVet

Remind us all of Senator Rick Santorum’s accomplishments. We’d be here all night listing Speaker Gingrich’s.


29 posted on 03/18/2012 12:07:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: onyx

Oh wow...just finished reading that and so glad to see what I’ve been saying about Santorum was certainly expressed there.

It’s all about his next move up the later, and he doesn’t have any convictions about what he presents because they aren’t his own........obviouslyboviously people along his track arrived at the same conclusion. He rides waves others create for him because he cannot create his own.


30 posted on 03/18/2012 12:08:19 AM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy is becoming a regular gaffe machine. As if we didn’t have enough of them near the top of the food chain already. Sheeesh....


31 posted on 03/18/2012 12:09:15 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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>> Rick Santorum: “I Was Basically Pro-Choice All My Life, Until I Ran for Congress”

It’s not uncommon for Conservative Democrats to shed their Pro-Abort views. It’s good that Rick has embraced Life. He’s not the first.


32 posted on 03/18/2012 12:10:34 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hasn’t little Ricky said to the public that he has been pro-life his entire life?


33 posted on 03/18/2012 12:10:38 AM PDT by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, this writer makes Rick out to be a drooling idiot without a thought in his head. And everyone spreading this tripe about Santorum is unnamed. No source to query. The writer himself is a strange one. Some of his other articles make their subjects out to be less than they are too. Maybe he is I secure and gets his jollies making other people look stupid.


34 posted on 03/18/2012 12:11:37 AM PDT by Yaelle (Santorum 2012)
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To: RitaOK

excerpt:

“Santorum’s biggest political challenge came in 2004. He claimed victory again but he lost on principle when he supported Sen. Specter for re-election over ideological soulmate Pat Toomey, then the Lehigh Valley congressman. To Santorum’s base, however, it was a deep betrayal. The wound remains open.

Many are quick to argue that Santorum had no choice. After all, he was (and is) the Republican Conference chairman. It’s the No. 3 Senate leadership post. One of the post’s primary jobs is to make sure incumbent GOP senators get re-elected.

But we always have choices. Had Santorum chosen principle over politics — or more accurately, principle over power — Mr. Toomey would have ousted Specter in last April’s primary and easily beaten Joe Hoeffel in November.
That didn’t happen because Santorum was not about to give up his chance for greater power: to succeed Bill Frist as Senate majority leader in 2007.

Santorum blew one opportunity — albeit the long shot of a dark horse — when he failed to accurately assess how damaged then-Majority Leader Trent Lott was in the Strom Thurmond affair of 2002 and began courting support far too late to matter.

Had Santorum supported Toomey, he not only would have lost his leadership post but, automatically, any chance of succeeding the departing Mr. Frist. As political irony goes, his loyalty to the leadership post — to the power base — paid a lousy dividend; Santorum doesn’t have the votes to succeed Frist.”

Read more: The problem with Rick Santorum - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_317352.html


35 posted on 03/18/2012 12:13:07 AM PDT by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: Steelfish
No it's not a trash/hit piece record by any means........I've been saying that stuff about Rick all along and I didn't need an article to tell me just how he is....it's known to us in PA...and those who have worked with him.

Once again you Santorum supporters can close your eyes just like the Obama supporters did and refuse to see the facts all you want but that isn't going to change the facts....and the many who do know just what Santorum is made of.

If it weren't for Newt, even today, and in this race, Rick would have been history long ago. Good grief you don't have to even believe the article but look at what he's been saying and doing since he first started and it matches up with the article perfectly.

36 posted on 03/18/2012 12:15:01 AM PDT by caww
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To: Windflier

>> This guy is becoming a regular gaffe machine.

I cannot get a grasp of Rick’s vision. All I see is hype and a gullible constituency.


37 posted on 03/18/2012 12:17:05 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
->> “” Santorum does concede that he's had a volte-face on abortion. “I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress,” he said. “But it had never been something I thought about””

I read this story before. Thanks for sharing here with us. Santorum owes Newt Gingrich a lot. Santorum didn't like even the Young Reagan group while in college (he thought they were too far right)- he did a lot of things to advance his goals, working with Newt. I just don't see how Santorum could run one negative ad on Newt furthermore, saying anything critical of him as he does. Santorum should not throw up to Romney that he was pro-life then was pro choice.

In this summary, Rick was quoted to be pro choice until he read science literature and part for his religious view made he change his mind since he was entering in politics, I suspect. He is not the saint that his followers make him out to be. Rick is One lucky dude/he has missed most of the negative ads from Romney in the beginning of this primary to where he look like he was above the arguing. He has played the people and uses the media to his advantage. His slips ups and arguing over social issues seems to nearly always get a pass. I really don't think he should throw off on Romney ( Romneycare, yes) but some of the other things, no. Because Rick Santorum was no pure conservative until he was introduced to a Newt Gingrich's tutorial. Either you are for pro life for conviction or not. ( Sorry if that seems harsh but he has made this a center piece of who he has always been)

38 posted on 03/18/2012 12:18:44 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Yaelle
This writer makes Rick out to be a drooling idiot without a thought in his head

Well without one of his own to be sure. And that's the Rick people that know him see him as......but it won't matter to his supporters because they see him thru the same eyes Obama supporters saw him.....just kept on putting their heads in the sand.

I am from Pa. and I will certainly vouge for what's stated in this article. ...and I am a Christian. But not every Christian gets behind a candidate just because he uses all the religious verbage he can to attract them, anymore than a Christian will give ear to TV Evangelists. They know the difference between authentic and the real thing.

39 posted on 03/18/2012 12:23:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: Gene Eric
I cannot get a grasp of Rick’s vision. All I see is hype and a gullible constituency.

Same here. I haven't been able to get a read on the guy since he first stepped into the running. I have no idea why he's running for president, and no idea what his central message is.

Now, if the man can't reach a confirmed political junkie like me, he's not really saying a whole lot, and is in this for ulterior reasons of his own.

40 posted on 03/18/2012 12:28:35 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Excert:

‘Santorum’..... would be a little pit bull to take us on on issues simply for the sake of slowing things down, ....’but he couldn’t keep his facts straight’..... It got to the point that...... ‘other Republicans’ would have their staff draft the issues for him’ so that at least he’d have some facts to work with.”

(* BTW we’ve clearly seen this frequently throughout the Primary as he “borrows” from other candidates and then stumbles around as he speaks the.)

The Republican overclass in Pennsylvania—the core group of which is moderate—tried to discourage Santorum from running for the Senate............... “We felt it was presumptuous on his part; he didn’t exactly have much of a record in the House,” ......says a powerful Republican who has worked for Heinz, Thornburgh and Governor Tom Ridge...... “But it was more than that....... Of course, there was his personality....he had rubbed a lot of us the wrong way, and in Congress he’s been a bull in a china shop....... In the end, the problem was that ‘nobody knows what Rick stands for’. .......He kept trying to tell us what a moderate he was,...... I think Rick stands for Rick.”

(Rick will do whatever it takes for the moment to enhance himself before those who are watching or can be helpful to him...that has not changed and he was known for that)


41 posted on 03/18/2012 12:34:25 AM PDT by caww
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To: Christie at the beach

>> Either you are for pro life for conviction or not.

As a life long advocate of Life, I welcome the latent subscribers.


42 posted on 03/18/2012 12:35:54 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Steelfish

“This is unadulterated garbage, Rats poison taken from sources not quite dissimilar from MoveOn, Huff PO and other anti-Santorum sites funded by Romney and his hit teams.”

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23 posts, until someone posted the obvious...


43 posted on 03/18/2012 12:35:59 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Gene Eric
Yes, I didn't mean to be harsh to everyone-this was in reference to Rick saying he was always for life..Always
appreciative to those who support life.
44 posted on 03/18/2012 12:38:13 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Some of the people quoted in the story are friends of Rick's.

What does this have to do with Romney. This is Rick Santorum.

45 posted on 03/18/2012 12:41:29 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Rashputin

rOMNEY HAS A LAW DEGREE, oBAMA AND BIDEN HAVE THEM. lAWYERS ARE A DIME ADOZEN, wHAT IS THE POINT.\


46 posted on 03/18/2012 12:43:09 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Christie at the beach

I’m not buying it.

This is EXACTLY how Romney operates.

This stinks of Romney. Wake up please. I’m all for Gingrich. Or Santorum.

But this is baloney.


47 posted on 03/18/2012 12:43:19 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Windflier

Post #41 is an excert which those working with him also found they couldn’t get a fix on him. That’s because Rick goes with whatever wind will take him to the next position he wants and play the role it takes to do that.

Ya know Windflier, beng from Pa and knowing the mindset of the people he was raised around in Butler, I see so many similarites in the guy I see still today when speaking with the people from his home town here in Pa.

The people are very “rule” oriented. You stand in lines and you drive in lines, even when there’s ramps onto two lane’s and or three lanes .....they all stay in a single lane of traffic. It never occurs to them to move into the next lane and make way for a smooth flow of traffic.

And that’s how Rick is.....he’s not focused on this country by any means...and never was...it’s all about his next move up the ladder.....and he’s never done that under his own steam but had others “lifting” him up to the next rung.


48 posted on 03/18/2012 12:45:05 AM PDT by caww
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To: RitaOK

And he’s only had one wife, too. What a loser.


49 posted on 03/18/2012 12:47:54 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: caww
For someone with ‘no convictions’ he sure has walked the walk abortion wise. He and his wife have had TWO brushes with children that many with fewer ‘convictions’ would have found it more convenient to eliminate.

Please, this is Bullshit! Rick Santorum is Pro life. He walks the walk and talks the talk. HE has a 100% prolife voting record over two decades in the house and senate.

Allot of things could be said about Santorum, being Pro Abortion is NOT one of them!

50 posted on 03/18/2012 12:48:14 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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